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Ors Might
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Postby Ors Might » Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:10 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ors Might wrote:Even ignoring the obvious moral reasoning, paying workers who are essential to your country's wellbeing almost literal peanuts is just such a stupid move, I can barely comprehend the levels of greed needed to justify it to oneself.

Apparently the Nigerian president is spending the state's money on luxury cars for his wife, so of course they can't afford to increase minimum wages.

Clearly, we need to enslave workers about it.
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Postby Heldervin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:27 am

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Heldervin wrote:Ja, either your German is stale, or you are being sarcastic. What you probably meant was, 'Du bist ein Diktator,' or 'du bist eine Diktator.'

Google translate ass. Your German is wrong, and you completely missed the point of the idiom.

Not wrong, I'm learning German. I doubt that you are.
Theodorable wrote:Notice how the only people arguing against this are a literal Nazi, a slavery advocate, and San Lumen. Really makes yuo think..,,.,,,

And?
USHALLNOTPASS wrote:For some reason, I genuinely doubt that the people going on about how essential workers shouldn’t get to strike work in those fields.

Your point?
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USHALLNOTPASS wrote:For some reason, I genuinely doubt that the people going on about how essential workers shouldn’t get to strike work in those fields.

Of course they don't. The Nazi has admitted to being a NEET and as far as we know still is, with his previous claims of being employed subject to a ton of scrutiny. They have very little, if any, actual understanding of how much folks in these fields work and how much of their blood and sweat goes into keeping societies afloat and why they should be rewarded for all of the effort they do and all the good they bring into the world.

Yada yada yada, I'm sure it must be grueling, but it's quite necessary as well.
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USHALLNOTPASS wrote:For some reason, I genuinely doubt that the people going on about how essential workers shouldn’t get to strike work in those fields.

Airport ground handling. I’d consider that essential.

It's actually not, because we don't need airports. They can use trains, and if they don't have that, trucks.
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Heldervin wrote:I don't advocate for those ancient German buffoons!

Is it relevant to the discussion?

With people who don't do those things.

Yes, nothing says "public safety is our #1 concern" like hiring a bunch of unqualified randos on the cheap to operate critical infrastructure...

You think that I would hire unqualified folks? That would be a buffoonish, foolish, idiotic moronic thing to do! I would have been an idiot! A moron! An idiotic moron.
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San Lumen wrote:
In other words if children go hungry or someone dies as a result of hospitals bring shut down that’s acceptable to you.

If children go hungry because their working parent can't afford to feed them, that's acceptable to you.

Let's be real here, you don't give a shit about whether people live or die. You only care about whether normal daily life is disrupted.

Let's be real here, since you want to go that route. Millions can't get any pay. At least the electricians had some pay. Guess what? They're causing more damage here by making millions more go hungry.
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:34 am

Heldervin wrote:You think that I would hire unqualified folks? That would be a buffoonish, foolish, idiotic moronic thing to do! I would have been an idiot! A moron! An idiotic moron.

you have to be shitposting right

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Postby Heldervin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:36 am

HISPIDA wrote:
Heldervin wrote:You think that I would hire unqualified folks? That would be a buffoonish, foolish, idiotic moronic thing to do! I would have been an idiot! A moron! An idiotic moron.

you have to be shitposting right

I am saying that I for one wouldn't do something that idiotic, and I doubt the government would either.
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:37 am

Heldervin wrote:
HISPIDA wrote:you have to be shitposting right

I am saying that I for one wouldn't do something that idiotic, and I doubt the government would either.

sounds to me like you're trying to goad people in to calling you an idiotic moron if i can be honest

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Postby Heldervin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:44 am

HISPIDA wrote:
Heldervin wrote:I am saying that I for one wouldn't do something that idiotic, and I doubt the government would either.

sounds to me like you're trying to goad people in to calling you an idiotic moron if i can be honest

No, I'm not.
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Postby Novos Zazprogidamos » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:09 am

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Postby Almighty Richard Cheney » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:19 am

I think it’s high time for America to liberate Nigeria from tyrannical rule under Bola Ahmed Tinubu, and install a John McCain type of leader as acting President. These workers will be put on the federal minimum wage- after all it is the least we are forced to pay them, but I’m sure it’s a major improvement over their nation’s minimum wage

Also I hear Nigeria has oil :o :bow:

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
In other words if children go hungry or someone dies as a result of hospitals bring shut down that’s acceptable to you.

If children go hungry because their working parent can't afford to feed them, that's acceptable to you.

Let's be real here, you don't give a shit about whether people live or die. You only care about whether normal daily life is disrupted.

But those are children of *turns up nose* blue-collar workers, they don't matter!
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:44 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If children go hungry because their working parent can't afford to feed them, that's acceptable to you.

Let's be real here, you don't give a shit about whether people live or die. You only care about whether normal daily life is disrupted.

But those are children of *turns up nose* blue-collar workers, they don't matter!

not only blue-collar workers, they're colored blue-collar workers!

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Postby Kerwa » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:This should not be a controversial viewpoint.

If workers are so essential, pay them a decent wage.


In other words if children go hungry or someone dies as a result of hospitals bring shut down that’s acceptable to you.


It’s Nigeria, they lose power all the time and are prepared for it

But honestly, these continuous attempts to emotionally blackmail people into agreeing with your - frankly - ill informed and distorted worldview are pathetic. Especially from someone who would happily see children starve if it meant more pots of cash payer tax could be funneled to that parasite Lloyd-Weber.

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Postby Too Basedland » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:53 am

This is why i hate labour unions. They are power-hungry commies. Labour unions should be banned
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:55 am

Too Basedland wrote:This is why i hate labour unions. They are power-hungry commies. Labour unions should be banned

As opposed to the power-hungry politicians. Those are far more preferable /s

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Postby Too Basedland » Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:58 am

Alvecia wrote:
Too Basedland wrote:This is why i hate labour unions. They are power-hungry commies. Labour unions should be banned

As opposed to the power-hungry politicians. Those are far more preferable /s

In my country labour unions literally serve those politicians and are funded by the state, i don't know why you are using whataboutism
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:00 am

Kerwa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
In other words if children go hungry or someone dies as a result of hospitals bring shut down that’s acceptable to you.


It’s Nigeria, they lose power all the time and are prepared for it

But honestly, these continuous attempts to emotionally blackmail people into agreeing with your - frankly - ill informed and distorted worldview are pathetic. Especially from someone who would happily see children starve if it meant more pots of cash payer tax could be funneled to that parasite Lloyd-Weber.


Yeah who needs the entertainment industry.

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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:01 am

Too Basedland wrote:
Alvecia wrote:As opposed to the power-hungry politicians. Those are far more preferable /s

In my country labour unions literally serve those politicians and are funded by the state, i don't know why you are using whataboutism

"In my country", isn't that literally also just whataboutism? lol
Besides, sounds like in Nigeria, the state isn't funding them enough

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:02 am



and will they apologize for the all harm they've caused? No.

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Postby Too Basedland » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:05 am

Alvecia wrote:
Too Basedland wrote:In my country labour unions literally serve those politicians and are funded by the state, i don't know why you are using whataboutism

"In my country", isn't that literally also just whataboutism? lol
Besides, sounds like in Nigeria, the state isn't funding them enough

Dude, i just used an example. Also, why you would want the state to fund a bunch of commies who destroy the efficiency of the business?
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:05 am

Too Basedland wrote:
Alvecia wrote:"In my country", isn't that literally also just whataboutism? lol
Besides, sounds like in Nigeria, the state isn't funding them enough

Dude, i just used an example. Also, why you would want the state to fund a bunch of commies who destroy the efficiency of the business?

Ethics > Efficiency

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:07 am

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and will they apologize for the all harm they've caused? No.

What harm?
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:07 am

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
and will they apologize for the all harm they've caused? No.

What harm?


If someone couldn't get medical care for example.

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Postby Heldervin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:09 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What harm?


If someone couldn't get medical care for example.

Or if millions couldn't work and therefore couldn't get any pay at all.
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Postby Too Basedland » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:10 am

Alvecia wrote:
Too Basedland wrote:Dude, i just used an example. Also, why you would want the state to fund a bunch of commies who destroy the efficiency of the business?

Ethics > Efficiency

Labour unions literally just make an useless strike just because the business owner is imperfect, and they even force workers to pay for their sh*t through union dues. Also, efficiency is better for long-term
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:26 am

Heldervin wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
If someone couldn't get medical care for example.

Or if millions couldn't work and therefore couldn't get any pay at all.

ironic that you're the one taking the stance of pay when you advocate for billions of people to be enslaved.

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Postby Heldervin » Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:27 am

HISPIDA wrote:
Heldervin wrote:Or if millions couldn't work and therefore couldn't get any pay at all.

ironic that you're the one taking the stance of pay when you advocate for billions of people to be enslaved.

Now see I have some standards when it comes to slavery now.
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