American Politics: An Enabling Immunity

[Spirit of Hope]

Trump's lawyers requested a mid to late July" sentencing hearing and agreed to the July 11th date. So no it isn't political, it's just about what Trump, through his legal team, asked for.

Thank you for responding to my post. It is Political when anti Trump, Leftist Democrat, Judge Juan Merchan, who can sentence President Trump any time he wants too, wants to sentence President Trump at least 3 or 4 days before the Republican, Presidential Convention. The Judge is Playing Politics. Do any of you guys really believe it is not by intent? Please read my entire Post with links, Spirit of Hope quoted.

I shouldn't have replied to you, I forget how you ignore facts and logic.

Trump through his legal team asked for the sentencing hearing to happen in mid to late July.

It would be impossible for such a time frame to not interfere with the convention, but Trump's legal team asked for it anyways. So I don't see how the judge giving Trump what he asked for is the judge playing politics to hurt Trump.

Also the judge can't sentance Trump at any time, he needs to receive arguments from both the prosecutor and defense as well as a report from the probation office. But that's more stuff I think you will ignore.

[Thermodolia]

Trump's lawyers requested a mid to late July" sentencing hearing and agreed to the July 11th date. So no it isn't political, it's just about what Trump, through his legal team, asked for.

Thank you for responding to my post. It is Political when anti Trump, Leftist Democrat, Judge Juan Merchan, who can sentence President Trump any time he wants too, wants to sentence President Trump at least 3 or 4 days before the Republican, Presidential Convention. The Judge is Playing Politics. Do any of you guys really believe it is not by intent? Please read my entire Post with links, Spirit of Hope quoted.

You literally didn’t read a single thing he said TRUMP asked for the sentencing to happen then. Trump wanted it then not the judge. This is something Trump wants

[Tarsonis]

I hope they do the sentencing during the convention.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Lock Trump up for the rest of his life with no possibility of parole.

[Spirit of Hope]

Except when you extrapolated that it was the only policy I supported to deal with the issue when I explicitly said that wasn't the case. Especially since the point of my response was to show that a basic assumption you made, that houses are an interchangable commodity, wasn't true.

Yes though i view it more as a resource issue for the buyer then as a supply issue i understand that homes are not completely interchangeable.

I support other interventions like investments to revitalize existing housing, the potential of a renters tax credit,

Good good. At least conceptually we are not at odds here.

better enforcement against housing discrimination, better enforcement towards wage theft,

broader topics with nuanced policies i may or may not agree with but broadly yeah its good when people aren't expoited and laws broken.

stronger support for unions, and reform to healthcare to name a few.

100%

Increasing housing supply, and thus reducing both costs to buy and to rent, also helps people save more money. It also increases people's mobility, which allows them to seek better jobs.

To a degree but i believe the US housing market is over saturated to the point that this is actually lower on the list. Wages catching up woth inflation should be paramount while reducing monopolization of the housing market would naturally increase availability, but even easier than either of those is a continued move away from city focused tech, sales and service companies. Covid alread showed that companies dump unnecessary amounts of capital into maintaining enormous offices and suburbia for all its bland bleakness offers ample housing to support such workers.

Finally we should probably have better government collected statistics on housing issues.

couldn't hurt.

My apologies if my tone comes off as a "gotcha" but the only point I was trying to make in the original post is that housing isn't an interchangable commodity and that one of the major problems facing the housing market at this time is supply, especially supply in desired types and locations.

i feel my above addresses this.

Not sure how you are getting "bottom barrel Soviet style" from what I suggested. The numbers you pulled were for building multi family apartments in the US by a commercial developer. I have never suggested having the government building them. I actually have a post in this thread explicitly rejecting such an aprouch.

Yes, I have a low opinion of commercial apartments in the US and soviet style clearly carries the bleak outlook i have of them
I have lived in budget apartments and mid tier and feel nothing positive about the expansion of such housing. Its distasteful as a seperate objection aside from the logical ones already raised.

The aprouch I would prefer is to remove zoning laws that are designed to create single family home monocultures and instead allow developers to build multi family apartments to help increase housing supply.

No and I will admit this comes more from associations i have with others who make this suggestion for housing. It often comes with quasi tankie theology. You are innocent of that.

I think it could be done in a cohesive way building towns (by zoning it and allowing construction as such) within suburban areas but i would not do away with the single housing zoning entirely. I feel there is still a strong desire for such neighborhoods and if home owners are paying property tax then they should have a say in zoning laws. But broadly speaking developing suburban areas into more functioning towns with a variety of housing options would be better long term.

The government can assist with these projects through grants and vouchers but probably shouldn't be the primary driver of construction

]I could not agree more here.

Doesn't seem like we disagree on much then. I certainly agree there are resource side issues as well.

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

Thank you for responding to my post. It is Political when anti Trump, Leftist Democrat, Judge Juan Merchan, who can sentence President Trump any time he wants too, wants to sentence President Trump at least 3 or 4 days before the Republican, Presidential Convention. The Judge is Playing Politics. Do any of you guys really believe it is not by intent? Please read my entire Post with links, Spirit of Hope quoted.

I shouldn't have replied to you, I forget how you ignore facts and logic.

Trump through his legal team asked for the sentencing hearing to happen in mid to late July.

It would be impossible for such a time frame to not interfere with the convention, but Trump's legal team asked for it anyways. So I don't see how the judge giving Trump what he asked for is the judge playing politics to hurt Trump.

Also the judge can't sentance Trump at any time, he needs to receive arguments from both the prosecutor and defense as well as a report from the probation office. But that's more stuff I think you will ignore.

GMS: But since did respond to me twice. We are not on NS to agree with any Posters and Persons we strongly disagree with on Republican President Trump, CRT Critical Race Theory, Cuba or any issues. I GMS am not the exception to this rule or any rules. We are not all on NS to say Trump Bad, Trump No Good and Trump Evil. Hardly ever does anyone on and off NS say to the other Poster or Person, Sorry I am wrong and you are right, my bad. It is called human nature. It is called thinking differently. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy in the USA and other such nations. I strongly respect. I Practice What I Preach With Pride and Honor.

I have been called a Brick Wall to Talk Too and a F Brick Wall to Talk Too.

Many Times.

It has been said many times, I cant grasp anything, I don't understand anything. I don't know anything about Politics, lol .

But You guys never agree with me and us on practically anything, but you expect me to agree with you guys, it works both ways in reverse.

So what does that make the Posters and Persons who say this too me?

In Politics everything works both ways.

It is not about me ignoring facts, posted and decided by Posters and Persons who strongly disagree with me and us.

Peace over and out till we respectfully chat again and strongly disagree again.

[Danternoust]

Atlanta remains under a state of emergency Monday as it battles disruptions to its water service that began last week, leaving a swath of a major city under boil-water advisories and highlighting the pervasiveness of problems caused by America’s aging infrastructure.

In the US and Canada, around 260,000 water main breaks cost $2.6 billion each year, according to a December 2023 study from Utah State University.

I guess Atlanta improperly spent all their American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money? The waning days of empire, at least these aren't Roman lead pipes.

[San Lumen]

Israel is not a dictatorship.

What is it you want him to do?

If Israel isn’t a dictatorship, why does Biden need to invade it and haul Netanyahu to the ICC in order to restore freedom, democracy, and American values? Checkmate, communist.

The people can vote out the government in a free and fair election.

[Neutraligon]

Atlanta remains under a state of emergency Monday as it battles disruptions to its water service that began last week, leaving a swath of a major city under boil-water advisories and highlighting the pervasiveness of problems caused by America’s aging infrastructure.

In the US and Canada, around 260,000 water main breaks cost $2.6 billion each year, according to a December 2023 study from Utah State University.

I guess Atlanta improperly spent all their American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money? The waning days of empire, at least these aren't Roman lead pipes.

Then it has been waning for well over 50 years. The Us has never done a good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Part of that is due to urban/suburban sprawl. It is costly to maintain the infrastructure the further from a city it gets. That is for roads, sewage, water, electricity, all of it.

[Danternoust]

Then it has been waning for well over 50 years. The Us has never done a good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Part of that is due to urban/suburban sprawl. It is costly to maintain the infrastructure the further from a city it gets. That is for roads, sewage, water, electricity, all of it.

Eyebrow emoji indeed. This is downtown Atlanta, a city where Delta airlines is headquartered, not some town in the boonies. Whatever was earmarked for Atlanta failed to be used to replace pipes that are a century old.

[Thermodolia]

Then it has been waning for well over 50 years. The Us has never done a good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Part of that is due to urban/suburban sprawl. It is costly to maintain the infrastructure the further from a city it gets. That is for roads, sewage, water, electricity, all of it.

Eyebrow emoji indeed. This is downtown Atlanta, a city where Delta airlines is headquartered, not some town in the boonies. Whatever was earmarked for Atlanta failed to be used to replace pipes that are a century old.

It’s still expensive. Plus unlike other states the city of Atlanta has to pay for its own infrastructure. The state doesn’t help.

[Neutraligon]

Then it has been waning for well over 50 years. The Us has never done a good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Part of that is due to urban/suburban sprawl. It is costly to maintain the infrastructure the further from a city it gets. That is for roads, sewage, water, electricity, all of it.

Eyebrow emoji indeed. This is downtown Atlanta, a city where Delta airlines is headquartered, not some town in the boonies. Whatever was earmarked for Atlanta failed to be used to replace pipes that are a century old.

Maybe because it was used for something else that was also a century old.

[Thermodolia]

Eyebrow emoji indeed. This is downtown Atlanta, a city where Delta airlines is headquartered, not some town in the boonies. Whatever was earmarked for Atlanta failed to be used to replace pipes that are a century old.

Maybe because it was used for something else that was also a century old.

And they likely got zero state support because the state government loves to fuck over Atlanta

[Neutraligon]

Maybe because it was used for something else that was also a century old.

And they likely got zero state support because the state government loves to fuck over Atlanta

Don't know much about how the state and city interact.

Can't remember which city lost the right to have their elected officials make their own decisions for them , was it atlanta?

[GMS Greater Miami Shores 1]

The decision on whether or not Biden earns my vote depends on whether or not he is willing to liberate Israel and Gaza from ruthless dictatorships, and how much money he is willing to give to Ukraine to defeat Russia. I don’t like Trump either, but if Biden refuses, Trump earns my vote

No, Cheney doesn't vote for Trump. He and his enablers have cancelled his daughter Liz's political career. Dick's pretty pissed from what i hear.

All Liz Cheney had to do is do her Republican job of strongly criticizing Biden and the Leftist Democrats, instead of President Trump, Liz Cheney did not do her job. This is the reason she was voted out by the Republicans of Wyoming. She got what she deserves.

[Thermodolia]

And they likely got zero state support because the state government loves to fuck over Atlanta

Don't know much about how the state and city interact.

Can't remember which city lost the right to have their elected officials make their own decisions for them , was it atlanta?

It wasn’t a city but the entire county. And the county was Fulton which just so happens to be the county that Atlanta and the majority of the black population resides

[Neutraligon]

Don't know much about how the state and city interact.

Can't remember which city lost the right to have their elected officials make their own decisions for them , was it atlanta?

It wasn’t a city but the entire county. And the county was Fulton which just so happens to be the county that Atlanta and the majority of the black population resides

Ah so it did include Atlanta. I was pretty sure it did but could not remember. Yeah, makes sense.

[Makko Oko]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

[Fractalnavel]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

wtf, what's next, cutting off thieves' hands, tearing tongues out for slander??

[San Lumen]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

Wow we are determined to regress to 1880 aren’t we.

[Tarsonis]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

"Cruel and Unusual" is subjective both to sensibility, and the magnitude of the crime. The law in question, pertains to perpetrators of such crimes against children under 13. Gotta admit, I really don't give a shit what happens to those people.

[New haven america]

I guess Atlanta improperly spent all their American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money? The waning days of empire, at least these aren't Roman lead pipes.

Then it has been waning for well over 50 years. The Us has never done a good job of maintaining its infrastructure. Part of that is due to urban/suburban sprawl. It is costly to maintain the infrastructure the further from a city it gets. That is for roads, sewage, water, electricity, all of it.

There's a joke in Atlanta that White Flight did more to screw up the city than Sherman could ever dream of.

[The Black Forrest]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

"Cruel and Unusual" is subjective both to sensibility, and the magnitude of the crime. The law in question, pertains to perpetrators of such crimes against children under 13. Gotta admit, I really don't give a shit what happens to those people.

The problem is it opens the door to such extreme ideas of punishment.

[Spirit of Hope]

Surgical castration set to become a legal punishment in addition to jail time for sex crimes in Louisiana

Hello? Does anybody remember the 8th Amendment or did we really just throw out over 100 years of precedent? Trop v. Dulles, Gregg v. Georgia, Estelle v. Gamble, et cetera et cetera

"Cruel and Unusual" is subjective both to sensibility, and the magnitude of the crime. The law in question, pertains to perpetrators of such crimes against children under 13. Gotta admit, I really don't give a shit what happens to those people.

"It's not cruel as long as we do it against the right type of criminal" is a terrible way to justify torture, no matter how good it makes you feel to think of the "right" people being tortured. It's still torture.

What even is the point? I doubt they have any strong evidence this move will actually effect re offense, which means it's probably meant as a "deterrent." Extreme punishments are rather unsuccessful at actually deterring.

More importantly Louisiana doesn't have a great history when it comes to prosecutorial misconduct and equal application of the law. I'm sure they will improve their conduct with this punishment though.

[New haven america]

So what if they're innocent but got cut anyway?