Who is "actually" the worst President of the US ever

[Awqnia]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

[Too Basedland]

Hard to choose, there were many terrible American presidents. Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Grant, Wilson, Roosevelt (both of them), Johnson... It's very hard to say who is THE worse. I could say Jefferson, since he implemented the Mob Rule that Washington and Adams warned about.

[Glorious Freedonia]

All he ever said that was "anti-NATO" was that NATO needs to spend money on its own defense instead of getting a practically free ride off of the USA. Europe screwed up, they did not do it. Then Ukraine intensifies and they are unprepared. They should have listened to Trump. Europe should listen when a wise man like Trump tells them what to do. They should soke up his wisdom instead of hating him because his message requires them to be more self sufficient. It is like a teenage kind being mad at his parents because they tell him he needs to get a job.

I didn't mention NATO and I wasn't referring to it. If you don't know all of the treaties he reneged on and why that makes the US seem an unreliable partner then you need to do a little more research.

Trump did not cause anybody to lose their rights. He was a good president. I think he was one of our best presidents. He did not cancel any treaties. If you think he did any of that, then prove it.

[Too Basedland]

I didn't mention NATO and I wasn't referring to it. If you don't know all of the treaties he reneged on and why that makes the US seem an unreliable partner then you need to do a little more research.

Trump did not cause anybody to lose their rights. He was a good president. I think he was one of our best presidents. He did not cancel any treaties. If you think he did any of that, then prove it.

These guys just want reasons to hate Trump. I honestly think he was the best president since Coolidge.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

Tennessee has so much to answer for.
Place just went to hell after Crocket left.

[San Lumen]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

I agree with this. If Hannibal Hamlin had remained Vice President the country would be much better off.

Andrew Johnson was so racist even in his day people thought he was racist. He vetoed Nebraska statehood because he did not like that Congress told them they had to make changes to their constitution which included universal male suffrage. To date Nebraska is the only state to be admitted over a presidential veto.

[Glorious Freedonia]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

[Jerzylvania]

Trump did not cause anybody to lose their rights. He was a good president. I think he was one of our best presidents. He did not cancel any treaties. If you think he did any of that, then prove it.

These guys just want reasons to hate Trump. I honestly think he was the best president since Coolidge.

You don't need to hate Trump to find him unfit for office.

[Glorious Freedonia]

These guys just want reasons to hate Trump. I honestly think he was the best president since Coolidge.

You don't need to hate Trump to find him unfit for office.

If he is fit enough to attract the romantic affections of Stormy Daniels, then he is fit enough to be President!

[Too Basedland]

These guys just want reasons to hate Trump. I honestly think he was the best president since Coolidge.

You don't need to hate Trump to find him unfit for office.

I am not a MAGA fanatic, I only support Trump because I hate the current Liberal World Order and Trump is the one who is challenging the it

By the way I am not American

[Ethel mermania]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

No, he was a hardliner who wanted to hang the Southern traitors. As VP he made several speeches supporting a hard line with the Southern administration. He wanted to hang jefferson Davis and Lee.

The radical Republicans got their man. Wade and ben Davis were very happy with the choice of Johnson. Within 9 months of Johnson assuming the presidency he changed completely

[San Lumen]

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

No, he was a hardliner who wanted to hang the Southern traitors. As VP he made several speeches supporting a hard line with the Southern administration. He wanted to hang jefferson Davis and Lee.

The radical Republicans got their man. Wade and ben Davis were very happy with the choice of Johnson. Within 9 months of Johnson assuming the presidency he changed completely

if Hamlin had become President we'd be much better country today.

[Glorious Freedonia]

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

No, he was a hardliner who wanted to hang the Southern traitors. As VP he made several speeches supporting a hard line with the Southern administration. He wanted to hang jefferson Davis and Lee.

The radical Republicans got their man. Wade and ben Davis were very happy with the choice of Johnson. Within 9 months of Johnson assuming the presidency he changed completely

What does "No," refer to in your last post. I was confused by it.

[Ethel mermania]

No, he was a hardliner who wanted to hang the Southern traitors. As VP he made several speeches supporting a hard line with the Southern administration. He wanted to hang jefferson Davis and Lee.

The radical Republicans got their man. Wade and ben Davis were very happy with the choice of Johnson. Within 9 months of Johnson assuming the presidency he changed completely

What does "No," refer to in your last post. I was confused by it.

What the public knew is he wanted to hang the Southerners. He was a hard line war democrat who wanted to punish the planter class. 9 months as president he wanted to be the planter class.

[Glorious Freedonia]

What does "No," refer to in your last post. I was confused by it.

What the public knew is he wanted to hang the Southerners. He was a hard line war democrat who wanted to punish the planter class. 9 months as president he wanted to be the planter class.

So if nobody was surprised that AJ would be tough on Confederates, then why did John Wilkes Booth, et al., decide to kill Abraham Lincoln? They knew he would be replaced by the Vice President. I do not understand what the assassination was supposed to achieve to help the Confederates?

[East Oria]

AI response: None, Each U.S. President have made choices regarding the complexities of their nation.
My response: Quentin Trembley the 8th and a half president, he appointed 6 babies to the Supreme court, and waged war on pancakes.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

His views were based on the Civil War being fought to preserve the Union.
Mission accomplished, moving on, with his policy ideas based on Lincoln’s earlier, and more lenient plans.
The gist being, from the radical Republican point of view, white power in the south would go right back where it was, and be left to its own devices in the transition from slavery to freedom, which is pretty much what happened anyway, despite Republicans wanting to, and being more SJW about it.
That was actually more outside of the day’s norm than Johnson’s ideals, hence why a faction of them earned the moniker of Radical Republicans.

[Ethel mermania]

What the public knew is he wanted to hang the Southerners. He was a hard line war democrat who wanted to punish the planter class. 9 months as president he wanted to be the planter class.

So if nobody was surprised that AJ would be tough on Confederates, then why did John Wilkes Booth, et al., decide to kill Abraham Lincoln? They knew he would be replaced by the Vice President. I do not understand what the assassination was supposed to achieve to help the Confederates?

Booth was insane he hated Lincoln. The confederate leadership had nothing to do with the plot.

Jefferson Davis's quote
In a sad voice, Davis said, “I certainly have no special regard for Mr. Lincoln; but there are a great many men of whose end I would much rather have heard than his. I fear it will be disastrous to our people, and I regret it deeply.” Jefferson

[Awqnia]

For me, the worst president ever, by a long shot, is Andrew Johnson.

He only became President because he was VP when Lincoln was assassinated. He basically tried to obstruct/reverse as much of Lincoln's policy as he possibly could. Inept, regressive, etc. Johnson was the first President to be impeached. After Lincoln was assainated, pretty much all the Federal force which was required went away due to Andrew Johnson's inactivity and frankly lack of interest and political will. Into this power vacuum stepped exactly the people you would expect. Former confederates and Klan members, usually the same guys, brutally repressed the nascent free black communities. By as soon as 1875, most confederate leaders were back in positions power and the structures that would control the Jim Crow South until the Civil Rights Era and are arguably still partially there were largely already in place. America could be a much different place now, if Andrew Johnson wasn't ever president.

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

In short term, no, I don't think anybody knew, or cared about Johnson's views on Reconstruction before he became president after Lincolns assassination. Because alot of the time, even now, the Vice President really doesn't do anything. That's why you don't hear about the VP in news articles, or headlines too often, they are basically there incase something happens to the President while in office. In Johnson's case, I think people only really started to care about his views on Reconstruction whenever he became President. From what I know of anyways.

[Jerzylvania]

You don't need to hate Trump to find him unfit for office.

I am not a MAGA fanatic, I only support Trump because I hate the current Liberal World Order and Trump is the one who is challenging the it

By the way I am not American

You don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater either.

Not an American, huh? Well then... you can't really support any candidate by voting in our elections. Just as well.

[Corporate Collective Salvation]

Not an American, huh? Well then... you can't really support any candidate by voting in our elections. Just as well.

Heh...give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...unless they disagree with me.
Guess that is a universal failing, after all.

[Glorious Freedonia]

An interesting question that I do not have the answer for is, "Was Andrew Johnson's views on Reconstruction something that the public knew about or could have known about if they were paying attention prior to John Wilkes Booth and Conspirators making of plans to murder him?". So like when they thought that killing President Lincoln was a good idea, were they idiots because everybody knew or should have known that he was the lesser of two evils when it came to his dealings with the South?

In short term, no, I don't think anybody knew, or cared about Johnson's views on Reconstruction before he became president after Lincolns assassination. Because alot of the time, even now, the Vice President really doesn't do anything. That's why you don't hear about the VP in news articles, or headlines too often, they are basically there incase something happens to the President while in office. In Johnson's case, I think people only really started to care about his views on Reconstruction whenever he became President. From what I know of anyways.

Your answer makes sense. However, another poster indicated that AJ's Radical Republican views were pretty well known. This is an interesting controversy and prior to today I never thought about this topic.

[Papiv Nappon]

Buchanan, Andrew Jackson, and Trump.

[Awqnia]

In short term, no, I don't think anybody knew, or cared about Johnson's views on Reconstruction before he became president after Lincolns assassination. Because alot of the time, even now, the Vice President really doesn't do anything. That's why you don't hear about the VP in news articles, or headlines too often, they are basically there incase something happens to the President while in office. In Johnson's case, I think people only really started to care about his views on Reconstruction whenever he became President. From what I know of anyways.

Your answer makes sense. However, another poster indicated that AJ's Radical Republican views were pretty well known. This is an interesting controversy and prior to today I never thought about this topic.

Interesting, I will have to look into that. However, I have another opinion. An argument can also be made, that James Buchanan is the worst US President, but since the argument is kinda complicated, this will be a pretty long read.

Buchanan let a vast amount of arms and machinery be shipped to the South, knowing it would likely be used by them in the event of a war; He took no action against government employees, including top military and political officers, whose behaviour suggested they were planning to support disunion; He did openly criticize secession as unconstitutional, including in his farewell address, but insisted he had no power to enforce the constitution to crush secessionism. Before the crisis, Buchanan was pretty active in trying to sort out the crises of sectionalism and slavery. The bad news is that he was pretty bad at it. Buchanan as a Democrat sought to solve the crises of the time by pursuing solutions that would pacify the South. He threw his weight behind the Dred Scott decision, for example. On almost every hot-button issue of the day, he wound up supporting the South's position. Notably, he supported the Lecompton Constitution, written by essentially a puppet government of Kansas, and tried to get Kansas admitted as a slave state with this completely unrepresentative state government. Douglas's opposition to this prevented it from becoming a reality, but Buchanan basically completely effed up the whole Kansas-Nebraska problem. Kansas was finally admitted just before the war as a free state, with a democratically elected anti-slavery state government. The consequences of this are that the Democratic party became divided between pro- and anti-Douglas factions (arguably this is one reason why they could not agree on a candidate in 1860 and wound up splitting the vote). Buchanan vehemently persecuted Douglas's supporters within the party and tried his best to reduce Douglas's influence, hurting Douglas's prospects in 1860, and lending support to this factionalism. Moreover, by being so openly favourable towards the South, Buchanan gave the Republican Party a large impetus in the North. The North saw itself as getting hardly anything out of the major flashpoints in Buchanan's term, like Bleeding Kansas and Dred Scott. Growing concern that the federal government was being dominated by uncompromising "slave power" from the South lent impetus to a Republican surge in the North in the 1860 polls, and is actually what catapulted Lincoln onto the national stage. His Cooper Union and House Divided speeches were very critical of the federal administration's heavy-handedness in favouring the South. Arguably, in doing this Buchanan gave the South unrealistic expectations; they were convinced they were only getting what was rightfully theirs out of the failed Lecompton Constitution and the Dred Scott decision. With the election of a Republican, the South knew the pendulum would swing the other way, and with the shoe on other foot, they convinced themselves they would be screwed by the Republicans, the same way they had screwed the North on all these issues in the 1850s. Overall, Buchanan was a weak president, and where he was active, his actions were quite unhelpful (to say the least). At a time when decisiveness could have potentially led to compromise, or at least helped the Union in its prosecution of any potential war, Buchanan did nothing. And when he was decisive, Buchanan intervened on the wrong side, quite heavy-handedly and openly favouring one over the other.

[Too Basedland]

I am not a MAGA fanatic, I only support Trump because I hate the current Liberal World Order and Trump is the one who is challenging the it

By the way I am not American

You don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater either.

Not an American, huh? Well then... you can't really support any candidate by voting in our elections. Just as well.

He is already going to win. So changing my nationality just to vote in a foreign election is not needed :3