The Collective Security League Assembly [IC]

[The Daeva]

[quote="Azmeny";p="41583325"][quote="European Federal Union";p="41582779"]snip[/quote]
“Agreed. We ought to truly cooperate better, and standardise equipment. We need a major modernisation of CSL militaries for that to happen, however as Azmeny uses soviet standards of ammunition whereas, say greater marine uses American ones. Replacing all of Azmeny’s equipment may prove expensive.

We should also work on things such as joint command structures, and shared military assets, such as CSL wide ABM systems and joint bases to foster cooperation and coordination. This is an area we ought to focus on. More cooperation, with member states working together to fulfill a common plan, whenever we are fighting. This allows us to use the best aspects of each country’s armed forces, such as Marinian warships, Azmen tanks and artillery and Daevan intelligence and special ops to play better to our collective strengths. Then we can work even more to bust dictators, wherever they may lurk.”[/quote]

“It is a good idea. Standardized ammo is absolutely possible, and even maybe a few joint bases. Maybe. But a CSL wide ABM system is a good idea.”

[Reprapburg]

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“Agreed. We ought to truly cooperate better, and standardise equipment. We need a major modernisation of CSL militaries for that to happen, however as Azmeny uses soviet standards of ammunition whereas, say greater marine uses American ones. Replacing all of Azmeny’s equipment may prove expensive.”

“Respectfully, General, equipment standardization will likely prove impossible beyond small arms and perhaps uniforms. The cost of standardizing vehicles, artillery, missiles, and other large equipment is just too great. Not to mention that many citizens likely won’t approve of a massive increase in military budget. Reprapburg’s populace for one believes we’re spending quite enough on defence as is.”

[Arakhkhar]

“Well said. I do hasten that Majarabia isn’t a CSL member.”

“To be fair, the matter is more about ISD hostility towards the CSL than whether or not Marajarbia is a CSL member or observer. The EFU has a point when it comes to ISD’s overall hostility when it comes to their actions within this very assembly.”

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

[European Federal Union]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

Rep. Kyle: "Those words are enough to expose the very violently anti CSL agenda of the ISD, and words are often just the forstage before action follows. As someone first has to justify a war before starting it."

[The Daeva]

“Agreed. We ought to truly cooperate better, and standardise equipment. We need a major modernisation of CSL militaries for that to happen, however as Azmeny uses soviet standards of ammunition whereas, say greater marine uses American ones. Replacing all of Azmeny’s equipment may prove expensive.”

“Respectfully, General, equipment standardization will likely prove impossible beyond small arms and perhaps uniforms. The cost of standardizing vehicles, artillery, missiles, and other large equipment is just too great. Not to mention that many citizens likely won’t approve of a massive increase in military budget. Reprapburg’s populace for one believes we’re spending quite enough on defence as is.”

“Definitely not uniforms. Unless the standard is Daevan uniforms, in which case it fine.”

[The Daeva]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

Rep. Kyle: "Those words are enough to expose the very violently anti CSL agenda of the ISD, and words are often just the forstage before action follows. As someone first has to justify a war before starting it."

“I don’t support a war, but CSL military preparedness is always good.”

[Arakhkhar]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

Rep. Kyle: "Those words are enough to expose the very violently anti CSL agenda of the ISD, and words are often just the forstage before action follows. As someone first has to justify a war before starting it."

“From our perspective, it is the CSL that bombards and destroys countries, the CSL that enforces their will upon others, using whatever justification or moral pretense they so wish.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

“To be fair, the matter is more about ISD hostility towards the CSL than whether or not Marajarbia is a CSL member or observer. The EFU has a point when it comes to ISD’s overall hostility when it comes to their actions within this very assembly.”

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

[Romanic Imperium]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

"Thats just being overprotective. You shouldn't be intruding on another nations sovereign waters"

[The Daeva]

Rep. Kyle: "Those words are enough to expose the very violently anti CSL agenda of the ISD, and words are often just the forstage before action follows. As someone first has to justify a war before starting it."

“From our perspective, it is the CSL that bombards and destroys countries, the CSL that enforces their will upon others, using whatever justification or moral pretense they so wish.”

The Margrave coughs. “Let’s be civil, everyone. This isn’t the proper place to lambast the CSL, and this needless accusations against the ISD is uncouth as well. Now, can we move on? I would hate to.. censure anyone.”

[Arakhkhar]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

“And riding to BA in warships is a non-hostile, pacifist act?”

[The Daeva]

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

“And riding to BA in warships is a non-hostile, pacifist act?”

The Margrave clears his throat. “I believe I closed this issue.”

[Arakhkhar]

“And riding to BA in warships is a non-hostile, pacifist act?”

The Margrave clears his throat. “I believe I closed this issue.”

OOC: I posted it before I saw your post.

[The Daeva]

The Margrave clears his throat. “I believe I closed this issue.”

OOC: I posted it before I saw your post.

OOC: no problem.

[Arakhkhar]

“And riding to BA in warships is a non-hostile, pacifist act?”

The Margrave clears his throat. “I believe I closed this issue.”

Ilain approaches the Margrave, whispering.
“Even you must see that comparing the Directorate to the third Reich for comments of animosity is an overstep, and a gross insult.”

[European Federal Union]

“From our perspective, it is the CSL that bombards and destroys countries, the CSL that enforces their will upon others, using whatever justification or moral pretense they so wish.”

Rep. Kyle: "Taking your favorite example Heldervin. It was not an innocent nation just vibing around on its own, a was a nation lead by war crimes which quite litteraly took other human beings some of which children and sold those off as slaves, completely ripping them off their humanity and turning them into a comodety which can be bought and sold as human filth which call themselves owners wish. This is deeply dustusting and fucked up on any level imaginable. It was great that the CSL intervened and forced this practice to stop, and by any moral metric which is not completely brain dead justified, there is no excuse you can make which would justify their action in a way which would make the CSL intervention a bad thing."

“I don’t support a war, but CSL military preparedness is always good.”

Rep. Kyle: "I agree, currently the militaries of the CSL while capable are just unprepared for any longer lasting attritional wars, and this not jsut when it comes to the ammount of equipment and vehicles stockpiled but also down to ammunition, so CSL members should explore how to expand on those softer factors too, maybe also exploring international contracts with other natons to ensure and continous and safe flow of ammunitions and spareparts."

[The Daeva]

The Margrave clears his throat. “I believe I closed this issue.”

Ilain approaches the Margrave, whispering.
“Even you must see that comparing the Directorate to the third Reich for comments of animosity is an overstep, and a gross insult.”

“Quite, which is why I put a stop to it. Any further such comments could very well end in censuring.”

[The Daeva]

“From our perspective, it is the CSL that bombards and destroys countries, the CSL that enforces their will upon others, using whatever justification or moral pretense they so wish.”

Rep. Kyle: "Taking your favorite example Heldervin. It was not an innocent nation just vibing around on its own, a was a nation lead by war crimes which quite litteraly took other human beings some of which children and sold those off as slaves, completely ripping them off their humanity and turning them into a comodety which can be bought and sold as human filth which call themselves owners wish. This is deeply dustusting and fucked up on any level imaginable. It was great that the CSL intervened and forced this practice to stop, and by any moral metric which is not completely brain dead justified, there is no excuse you can make which would justify their action in a way which would make the CSL intervention a bad thing."

“I don’t support a war, but CSL military preparedness is always good.”

Rep. Kyle: "I agree, currently the militaries of the CSL while capable are just unprepared for any longer lasting attritional wars, and this not jsut when it comes to the ammount of equipment and vehicles stockpiled but also down to ammunition, so CSL members should explore how to expand on those softer factors too, maybe also exploring international contracts with other natons to ensure and continous and safe flow of ammunitions and spareparts."

“Hey! I am glad you agree with me, but I just closed this issue. It is closed, so stop continuing it.”

[Egyptttt]

“Hostile acts towards the CSL? Outside of a few mean words, can you name one?”

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

"If they don't want you in their waters then no CSL ship should be there. Egypt would be the exception as we are also a member of the ISD so any CSL member who wishes to send humanitarian aid will have to be sent on Egyptian cargo ships to avoid antagonizing BA."

[The Daeva]

“Threatening to blow up CSL ships should they be found within BA’s territorial waters, for one.”

"If they don't want you in their waters then no CSL ship should be there. Egypt would be the exception as we are also a member of the ISD so any CSL member who wishes to send humanitarian aid will have to be sent on Egyptian cargo ships to avoid antagonizing BA."

“My country is also notably the exception.”

[New Heldervinia]

“From our perspective, it is the CSL that bombards and destroys countries, the CSL that enforces their will upon others, using whatever justification or moral pretense they so wish.”

Rep. Kyle: "Taking your favorite example Heldervin. It was not an innocent nation just vibing around on its own, a was a nation lead by war crimes which quite litteraly took other human beings some of which children and sold those off as slaves, completely ripping them off their humanity and turning them into a comodety which can be bought and sold as human filth which call themselves owners wish. This is deeply dustusting and fucked up on any level imaginable. It was great that the CSL intervened and forced this practice to stop, and by any moral metric which is not completely brain dead justified, there is no excuse you can make which would justify their action in a way which would make the CSL intervention a bad thing."

"You are all but correct," Dorma tutted. "Are you forgetting that I am a former slave? We still had humanity, and is not messed up. The CSL should not have ended the practice, and I regret being anywhere near this 'liberator' filth."

[Arakhkhar]

"If they don't want you in their waters then no CSL ship should be there. Egypt would be the exception as we are also a member of the ISD so any CSL member who wishes to send humanitarian aid will have to be sent on Egyptian cargo ships to avoid antagonizing BA."

“My country is also notably the exception.”

“That is because the Daeva has proved a friend to BA at many occasions.”
Ilain twirls her finger around.
“By the way, there are rumors that Baro-… President Kurtii intends to restore an aristocracy in the country.”

[The Daeva]

Rep. Kyle: "Taking your favorite example Heldervin. It was not an innocent nation just vibing around on its own, a was a nation lead by war crimes which quite litteraly took other human beings some of which children and sold those off as slaves, completely ripping them off their humanity and turning them into a comodety which can be bought and sold as human filth which call themselves owners wish. This is deeply dustusting and fucked up on any level imaginable. It was great that the CSL intervened and forced this practice to stop, and by any moral metric which is not completely brain dead justified, there is no excuse you can make which would justify their action in a way which would make the CSL intervention a bad thing."

"You are all but correct," Dorma tutted. "Are you forgetting that I am a former slave? We still had humanity, and is not messed up. The CSL should not have ended the practice, and I regret being anywhere near this 'liberator' filth."

The Margrave turns to her. “Do you know why I censured your husband?” He asks calmly, although clearly irritated.

[European Federal Union]

“Hey! I am glad you agree with me, but I just closed this issue. It is closed, so stop continuing it.”

Rep. Kyle: "Then we should further discuss how to make the CSL overal more effective, as well as how to tackle the current issues of war unpreparedness."

"You are all but correct," Dorma tutted. "Are you forgetting that I am a former slave? We still had humanity, and is not messed up. The CSL should not have ended the practice, and I regret being anywhere near this 'liberator' filth."

Rep. Kyle: "Hes is making excuses for slavery again, Daevan please just let me shoot him."

[The Daeva]

“My country is also notably the exception.”

“That is because the Daeva has proved a friend to BA at many occasions.”
Ilain twirls her finger around.
“By the way, there are rumors that Baro-… President Kurtii intends to restore an aristocracy in the country.”

“Really? That would be fantastic.”