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Postby Tricorniolis » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:19 pm

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:I would suggest you lose the (rather cliched) stars altogether, then rotate the symbol clockwise and scale it up.

Something like this...
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or possibly add a couple of stripes.
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I myself would love to lose the stars, but I was really, really hoping to make a symmetrical flag, at least vertically.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:46 pm

Eh?

The symbol itself isn't quite symmetrical, but otherwise both of those designs are vertically symmetrical. :blink:
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Postby Tricorniolis » Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:12 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:Eh?

The symbol itself isn't quite symmetrical, but otherwise both of those designs are vertically symmetrical. :blink:


I think you mean 'horizontally symmetrical'. Vertically symmetrical means the line of symmetry runs from north to south.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:33 am

I understand what you mean, and in a mathematical context that would be a vertical axis of symmetry. but I am used to the opposite usage. The top and bottom are reflections of one another, with top-bottom (or NS if you prefer) being the vertical direction.

Anyway, just ditch the stars an keep the symbol in its original orientation.
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Postby Njordsund » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:21 am

Any advice for my flag? I like it but something looks off a little off to me

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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:16 pm

Njordsund wrote:Any advice for my flag? I like it but something looks off a little off to me


It was off in many details. I've done you a fresh version of the current design.
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The only design change was to reduce the aspect ratio slightly.
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Postby Njordsund » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:16 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:
Njordsund wrote:Any advice for my flag? I like it but something looks off a little off to me


It was off in many details. I've done you a fresh version of the current design.
Image


The only design change was to reduce the aspect ratio slightly.

Thank you, appreciate it! I have bad eyesight so its hard to pickup what exactly needed to be fixed

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Postby Kelvenya » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:16 pm

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:I'd suggest a yellow background with eight crescents in a hollow star-like pattern.

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Postby The Vooperian Union » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:13 am

Accidentally posted this in the wrong thread at first, but I am trying to get into flag making. Does anyone have any tips? If it helps, Here is my flag factbook.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Tue Apr 30, 2024 11:53 am

The Vooperian Union wrote:Accidentally posted this in the wrong thread at first, but I am trying to get into flag making. Does anyone have any tips? If it helps, Here is my flag factbook.


The top flag is OK. I think it could be improved by making the dark and light grey into black and white, or at last a lot closer. For heraldic correctness, the white stripe should be in the centre, but in this case I don't think it's particularly problematic.

For the others, you just seem to be adding random extra stripes and colours. 2 or 3 colours is ideal, 4 is acceptable, any more is pushing it.
Generally: stick to the heraldic set (White, Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, Black) except when there is a specific reason to use another. Try for good contrast at boundaries. In particular do not use yellow and white next to each other. Blue can be problematic with either green or black - choose your shades carefully. Do not use more than one variant of each colour.


Keeping something from the main flag is good, but you then should be adapting it in ways that fit the specific usage. Combining the civil and naval variants seems wrong unless you have a very good reason. Chevrons, battlements, nested areas are common for military flags, as are various bits of military hardware. Blue, waves, anchors, ropes etc are common options for naval jacks. In neither as are they essential.

The trick is to have clear and reasonably recognisable symbolism without looking too cliched. It can be hard!

Here is a possible set based on the above...
General use
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Civilian government
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Military
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Navy
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Postby The Vooperian Union » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:10 pm

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:
The Vooperian Union wrote:Accidentally posted this in the wrong thread at first, but I am trying to get into flag making. Does anyone have any tips? If it helps, Here is my flag factbook.


The top flag is OK. I think it could be improved by making the dark and light grey into black and white, or at last a lot closer. For heraldic correctness, the white stripe should be in the centre, but in this case I don't think it's particularly problematic.

For the others, you just seem to be adding random extra stripes and colours. 2 or 3 colours is ideal, 4 is acceptable, any more is pushing it.
Generally: stick to the heraldic set (White, Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, Black) except when there is a specific reason to use another. Try for good contrast at boundaries. In particular do not use yellow and white next to each other. Blue can be problematic with either green or black - choose your shades carefully. Do not use more than one variant of each colour.


Keeping something from the main flag is good, but you then should be adapting it in ways that fit the specific usage. Combining the civil and naval variants seems wrong unless you have a very good reason. Chevrons, battlements, nested areas are common for military flags, as are various bits of military hardware. Blue, waves, anchors, ropes etc are common options for naval jacks. In neither as are they essential.

The trick is to have clear and reasonably recognisable symbolism without looking too cliched. It can be hard!

Here is a possible set based on the above...
General use
Image

Civilian government
Image

Military
Image

Navy
Image

Ah, thank you. I wrote the descriptions weird. The national flag is for the civil, and government use on land. The naval flag and military flags are placeholders, I was looking for advice to better replace them. Either way, I appreciate the advice.
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Postby Tricorniolis » Wed May 01, 2024 10:39 am

Changed mine....what do you all think of the new one?
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Postby Sarolandia » Wed May 01, 2024 10:42 am

Tricorniolis wrote:Changed mine....what do you all think of the new one?

ripple effect... bleh...
Jokes aside, I wasn't here to see the prior stages of your flag, but I can already tell you've made a great improvement.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed May 01, 2024 10:44 am

Tricorniolis wrote:Changed mine....what do you all think of the new one?


Yellow on white : no.

Swap the white and red over, then it should be OK.
|I would also suggest making the space above & below the central square the same size as the horizontal stripe.

Thus...
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Postby Shivapuri » Wed May 01, 2024 10:45 am

I was hoping to get a flag that uses Saffron, maybe the Nandi Bull, and the Trishul. Imagine a flag for Shaivism.

Mine is good enough, but I'd rather it no look so...modern and digital.

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Postby Tesseris » Wed May 01, 2024 10:45 am

Shivapuri wrote:I was hoping to get a flag that uses Saffron, maybe the Nandi Bull, and the Trishul. Imagine a flag for Shaivism.

Mine is good enough, but I'd rather it no look so...modern and digital.


It looks good enough to qualify as something possibly made in the 20th century...

Anyway advice on my flag?
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed May 01, 2024 11:13 am

Tesseris wrote:
Anyway advice on my flag?



Several things...
  • Firstly the central stripe is nearly but not quite 1/3 of the width. Best make it exact, or clearly a different proportion.
  • Secondly the aspect ratio is unusual. If it was supposed to be 5x8 it is a little too tall.
  • Thirdly the colours on the symbol: the blue and purple don't contrast well with the black background. It is also better to use as few colours as possible. All white would work. The remaining colour can also be seen as a light blue and you already have a darker blue. If you really need the extra colour, then I'd suggest making it a green.
  • Finally the placement of the symbol: It looks cramped filling the entire stripe. 2/3 of the width is usually about right. The centre should then be repositioned to sit on the diagonal of the flag.
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Wed May 01, 2024 11:17 am

Shivapuri wrote:I was hoping to get a flag that uses Saffron, maybe the Nandi Bull, and the Trishul. Imagine a flag for Shaivism.

Mine is good enough, but I'd rather it no look so...modern and digital.


I don't see it as particularly modern. Insofar as it is, finding a more naturalistic depiction of the bull might be the way to go.

On the overall design, you might consider placing the Trishul centre left (and a bit larger), and have the bull "looking" at it.
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Postby Mardesurria » Thu May 23, 2024 5:16 pm

Well, this is going to sound stupid, and I’m honestly not even sure if this is even gonna be allowed here in the first place, but I want to ask all of you guys about my flag.

I’ve noticed most of you people here giving constructive criticism about my flag. So, I’ve decided that it’s time make a change in it.

In these five links below this paragraph are pictures of five flags I’ve made. I want you all to pick what you think is the best flag out off all of these. I’ll be running the poll for three days (until Sunday at 7 PM GMT-5, where I think it’ll close). From there, I’ll pick the winner. Here’s the links, all on ImgBB.

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2 - https://ibb.co/qj1NCD8

3 - https://ibb.co/svXss7j

4 - https://ibb.co/Y2H7Ccw

5 - https://ibb.co/Vv0f6L2

Feel free to ask me questions about this, as well as give out advice. Thanks for reading.
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Postby Hatshepsut » Thu May 23, 2024 6:31 pm

I prefer #2.
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Postby Wonseon » Thu May 23, 2024 6:34 pm

Definitely 1 or 3. Not a huge fan of 2, 4, or 5.
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Postby TRUMP ALMIGHTY » Thu May 23, 2024 6:34 pm

Hatshepsut wrote:I prefer #2.


I agree with Hatshepsut

Being said, whatever you do, I would not recommend 4. It isn’t symmetrical
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Postby Pathonia » Thu May 23, 2024 6:35 pm

Quite a few of these have off-centred Suns.

I quite like number two, it's a good use of the same colours you have now, and maintains the sort of simplicity that is your flag's strength.
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Postby Meraud » Thu May 23, 2024 6:36 pm

#2, the slanted lighter line resembles a lens glare perfectly, definitely my favorite design out of the five.
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Postby Mardesurria » Thu May 23, 2024 6:50 pm

Pathonia wrote:Quite a few of these have off-centred Suns.

I quite like number two, it's a good use of the same colours you have now, and maintains the sort of simplicity that is your flag's strength.



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