Should Rural votes be weighted/count more than Urban votes?

[San Lumen]

and then there would be a massive backlash as the there are only a few states were support for LGBT rights is not a majority opinion.

And? It wouldn’t matter because the courts said “lol fuck yall gay ass”

I mean sure some GOP members might lose but it still wouldn’t matter because gay people lost rights via the court.

A loss of rights that could’ve been avoided if the lawmakers who proposed to ban gay marriage where stopped from doing so

And when an overwhelmingly majority supports LGBT and interracial marriage you don;t think it would cause massive backlash?

Eisenhower wasn't weak for not arresting Faubus. he knew such an action would have been seen as overreach and lost him popular support or would it have been worth the at least decade setback of Civil Rights just to satisfy your authoritarianism?

[San Lumen]

Yet they aren't shafted. You don';t see anyone in Manitoba or Western Australia complaining Winnipeg and Perth have the most seats.

Australia is bad example to use because they have IRV. And people in Manitoba complains a lot about Winnipeg and Ontario and others

Then they can win a majority and make it a city state or vote to succeed from Canada.

[Order of Maesters]

Australia is bad example to use because they have IRV. And people in Manitoba complains a lot about Winnipeg and Ontario and others

Then they can win a majority and make it a city state or vote to succeed from Canada.

Electoral reform no, secession yes.

What a profoundly silly position to hold.

[Ors Might]

And? It wouldn’t matter because the courts said “lol fuck yall gay ass”

I mean sure some GOP members might lose but it still wouldn’t matter because gay people lost rights via the court.

A loss of rights that could’ve been avoided if the lawmakers who proposed to ban gay marriage where stopped from doing so

And when an overwhelmingly majority supports LGBT and interracial marriage you don;t think it would cause massive backlash?

Eisenhower wasn't weak for not arresting Faubus. he knew such an action would have been seen as overreach and lost him popular support or would it have been worth the at least decade setback of Civil Rights just to satisfy your authoritarianism?

What good would "massive backlash" do? The Supreme Court doesn't have to care about that.

[San Lumen]

And when an overwhelmingly majority supports LGBT and interracial marriage you don;t think it would cause massive backlash?

Eisenhower wasn't weak for not arresting Faubus. he knew such an action would have been seen as overreach and lost him popular support or would it have been worth the at least decade setback of Civil Rights just to satisfy your authoritarianism?

What good would "massive backlash" do? The Supreme Court doesn't have to care about that.

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

[The Two Jerseys]

You would have to ask him that.

But In theory it could work. In Canada, jurisdiction over the majority of important local matter are held by the provinces, not the federal government.

And it could lead to very unstable coalitions like in Israel. There is is reason so few countries use such a system.

85 countries plus the European Parliament.

So few...

[Washington Resistance Army]

What good would "massive backlash" do? The Supreme Court doesn't have to care about that.

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

They can go start their revolution then if they don't like it.

[San Lumen]

And it could lead to very unstable coalitions like in Israel. There is is reason so few countries use such a system.

85 countries plus the European Parliament.

So few...

And some of those still have districts or whatever they call them in that country.

[Order of Maesters]

What good would "massive backlash" do? The Supreme Court doesn't have to care about that.

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

The results of an election do not change the ruling of the court.

[San Lumen]

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

They can go start their revolution then if they don't like it.

yeah its called voting in huge numbers which is what would happen. I guarantee had Dobbs not happened Evers and Whitmer would have both lost. Hochil likely as well.

[San Lumen]

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

The results of an election do not change the ruling of the court.

and you'd see people elected wanted to re legalize same sex marriage. even in many red states a majority support same sex marriage and adoption and there probably isn;t any state were a majority don't support interracial marriage.

[Thermodolia]

and then there would be a massive backlash as the there are only a few states were support for LGBT rights is not a majority opinion.

Like the abortion backlash? Yeah, that didn't happen.

Actually there is some data to suggest that the Dobbs decision helped Democrats win in 2022. However given that the win didn’t involve republicans being tossed out of every state I’d say that the effect of gay rights being overturned would be big but not big enough.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They can go start their revolution then if they don't like it.

yeah its called voting in huge numbers which is what would happen. I guarantee had Dobbs not happened Evers and Whitmer would have both lost. Hochil likely as well.

Voting won't change the courts decision.

[San Lumen]

Like the abortion backlash? Yeah, that didn't happen.

Actually there is some data to suggest that the Dobbs decision helped Democrats win in 2022. However given that the win didn’t involve republicans being tossed out of every state I’d say that the effect of gay rights being overturned would be big but not big enough.

oh it would be massive given you'd also be overturning interracial marriage as the Loving case was used as precedent.

[Order of Maesters]

The results of an election do not change the ruling of the court.

and you'd see people elected wanted to re legalize same sex marriage. even in many red states a majority support same sex marriage and adoption and there probably isn;t any state were a majority don't support interracial marriage.

And they would get no where fast given the dysfunction of the US political system.

Dobbs didn't ensure a Democratic wave in 2022. It made the red wave much smaller than expected.

The death of Hodges would likely be quite the same, especially.

Unfortunate as it may be.

[Order of Maesters]

Actually there is some data to suggest that the Dobbs decision helped Democrats win in 2022. However given that the win didn’t involve republicans being tossed out of every state I’d say that the effect of gay rights being overturned would be big but not big enough.

oh it would be massive given you'd also be overturning interracial marriage as the Loving case was used as precedent.

I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is overturning Hodges does not necessarily mean a simultaneous overturning of Loving.

[San Lumen]

yeah its called voting in huge numbers which is what would happen. I guarantee had Dobbs not happened Evers and Whitmer would have both lost. Hochil likely as well.

Voting won't change the courts decision.

Yeah no way people could be elected that are against the decision and want to restore LGBT rights. even in most red states a majority support it. The example that started this debate Indiana a poll from 2022 of every state shows 65 percent support there. https://www.hrc.org/news/new-poll-two-t ... e-equality

[Port Carverton]

Voting won't change the courts decision.

Yeah no way people could be elected that are against the decision and want to restore LGBT rights. even in most red states a majority support it. The example that started this debate Indiana a poll from 2022 of every state shows 65 percent support there. https://www.hrc.org/news/new-poll-two-t ... e-equality

Or alternatively make constitutional safeguards against this kind of behavior

[The Two Jerseys]

Then they can win a majority and make it a city state or vote to succeed from Canada.

Electoral reform no, secession yes.

What a profoundly silly position to hold.

Yes, the "If you don't like it, leave...unless you're black, gay, or want to abort a fetus, then your rights are paramount and everyone else must kiss your ass" theme is a recurring one.

[San Lumen]

Yeah no way people could be elected that are against the decision and want to restore LGBT rights. even in most red states a majority support it. The example that started this debate Indiana a poll from 2022 of every state shows 65 percent support there. https://www.hrc.org/news/new-poll-two-t ... e-equality

Or alternatively make constitutional safeguards against this kind of behavior

Again how would these safeguards work. What standard are we going to use? For some rights even constitutional lawyers don't agree on what is and isn't constitutional.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Voting won't change the courts decision.

Yeah no way people could be elected that are against the decision and want to restore LGBT rights. even in most red states a majority support it. The example that started this debate Indiana a poll from 2022 of every state shows 65 percent support there. https://www.hrc.org/news/new-poll-two-t ... e-equality

You'd need an amendment to overturn the courts and we both know that won't happen. Go start your revolution.

[Port Carverton]

Or alternatively make constitutional safeguards against this kind of behavior

Again how would these safeguards work. What standard are we going to use? For some rights even constitutional lawyers don't agree on what is and isn't constitutional.

Make the constitution less vague by explicitly mentioning what is protected by said amendments

[San Lumen]

Yeah no way people could be elected that are against the decision and want to restore LGBT rights. even in most red states a majority support it. The example that started this debate Indiana a poll from 2022 of every state shows 65 percent support there. https://www.hrc.org/news/new-poll-two-t ... e-equality

You'd need an amendment to overturn the courts and we both know that won't happen. Go start your revolution.

You do realize a state could go ahead and make same sex marriage and adoption legal right? A number of them did prior to Hodges.

[Ors Might]

What good would "massive backlash" do? The Supreme Court doesn't have to care about that.

if Dobbs hadn't happened the 22 and 23 elections would have been red waves. If something as popular as same sex marriage and interracial marriage were overturned you'd see even more backlash. people are not going to accept that. Loving was used as precent for the same sex marriage decision.

Okay but how has that stopped abortion bans?

[Washington Resistance Army]

You'd need an amendment to overturn the courts and we both know that won't happen. Go start your revolution.

You do realize a state could go ahead and make same sex marriage and adoption legal right? A number of them did prior to Hodges.

Maybe the courts will strike that down too, who knows. Isn't it fun having a system you can't rely on to protect your rights?