Brebina Raided

[THe cHadS]

Today Brebina was raided, the founder and mods were kicked and now are in TRR. This is a sad day, I personally knew a few people in Brebina and it’s sad to see such a promising region fall. Hopefully Brebina will be injected soon.

[Simonia]

I know that. And I'm telling everyone about this right now because I want to defend Brebina. Didn't know you could make a Gameplay thread about a region getting raided until now.

[THe cHadS]

I know that. And I'm telling everyone about this right now because I want to defend Brebina. Didn't know you could make a Gameplay thread about a region getting raided until now.

It says that in the description of gameplay

[New Temecula]

Well, if they were kicked out of their home, I wish to provide them refuge by inviting them to Greater Temecula.

I will temporarily unlock the region, and those who were victims of the Brebina raids can move to GT for as long as they see fit.

[Angeloid Astraea]

It was hit by anti-fascists for having a fascist as a Regional Officer, and more sus stuff. It's not just raiders doing a raid. See here


I recommend against accepting "refugees" from Brebina into your region during an antifascist operation, or trying to defend Brebina from an antifascist operation. Aiding Brebina could possibly see targets put on your backs for sympathizing with the wrong crowd.

[Lunarvi]

Who were the fascist ROs? I'm a bit out of the loop

[Wheath]

Hopefully Brebina will be injected soon.

Injected with what?

Sparkalia has my approval. Sorry Thal.

[Simonia]

Well, if they were kicked out of their home, I wish to provide them refuge by inviting them to Greater Temecula.

I will temporarily unlock the region, and those who were victims of the Brebina raids can move to GT for as long as they see fit.

I'll invite them to Majestia too. Or Snowyland Lana. Preferably Snowyland Lana.

Hopefully Brebina will be injected soon.

Injected with what?

Sparkalia has my approval. Sorry Thal.

Thal? Why did you mention Thal (Thal Dorthat)?

[Archangel Ambis]

Who were the fascist ROs? I'm a bit out of the loop

The dispatch. I beg of you. Read the dispatch

[Keltionialang]

No. The raid was justified, and I'm saying this as a former RO. Quit sympathizing for us.

[Bonapartic France]

All from this region will be allowed into the IWN. For password Telegram Me, Spynualia, or The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia

[Simonia]

No. The raid was justified, and I'm saying this as a former RO. Quit sympathizing for us.

Wait how was the raid justified?

[Rosartemis]

Thanks for giving my fashbash more attention! I was looking for the salt, guess I found it just right across the table.

The region's previous Minister of Culture was Stranarei, the former delegate of Coalition of NS (https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_coalition_of_ns_fascists, you will see them on page 9 of eyebeast as the Minister of World Politics)

Here are archives of the target region before the raid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231231183 ... on=brebina

For context, the issue of the Fascist minister was presented to the delegate Goru, however after being poked several times by IMPC who was trying to bring the matter to his attention, he had refused to remove Stranarei from the position despite clear evidence of fascism.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... #p54207349 (IMPC poking the delegate)
The delegate doubles down on this, claiming he already knew Stranarei was fascist from the start but kept him in office. You will see this a few posts down.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54240839
IMPC's message about being serious with his accusation is suppressed by a Brebina RO, pretty much making it clear that they don't want to deal with this serious issue.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207423
Goru stops Stranarei from leaving, saying "Are you even a fascist anymore?"
Instead, he goes for the classic NATO 2022 bs of "raiders will lie about a region being fascist/sympathizing" despite the evidence being thrown right at his face. (https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207438)
IMPC stops poking, however Stranarei continues to make suspiciously fascist remarks, that despite it, Goru and Keltionalang (another RO) decides is completely appropriate and totally not problematically fascist at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167619
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167623
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167630
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167626 (as if that was the issue and not the fact that Stranarei wanted to "make region fascist to raid them)
There's more, give me a sec
With just this section alone it practically proves that the delegate never cared about the fact that Stranarei was (is) a fascist, and they shrugged off the part where he said "make regions fascist and then raid them", because that's not a problem at all.

It's not just that though, they also have some rather suspicious embassies that aren't embassy collectors, meaning they deliberately seeked out these embassies.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=new_marble_arch
https://www.nationstates.net/region=neonian_empire (Atomtopia)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nato_2022
https://www.nationstates.net/region=embassyregiona
https://www.nationstates.net/region=hyperborea
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bongos_united (Yeah.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=serovski_mir_2022 (Transphobe)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... of_patriam (Soviet Cobra Communist Republic)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ins ... _cellulose (Relations with Layem and Sanctum)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_imperium (Goltzborg)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=yajib (Kelvenya successor, a region that previously got raided by NATO 2022, and then bashed by PRAF, which had already been pulling embassies themselves from Brebina, meaning it wasn't Brebina who cut these ties despite the fact the original government of Kelvenya, that is now in Yajib, was an Al-Qaeda supporter.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tionalists (Was already pulling embassies before the raid.)

And to top it off:
Stranarei in Coalition of NS Fascists
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=53758417

Hope this clears it up

[Angeloid Astraea]

Hopefully Brebina will be injected soon.

Injected with what?

Sparkalia has my approval. Sorry Thal.

Just so that the appropriate people have the right amount of credit here, Sparkalia is providing support but we're not even close to the main ones involved here. Our allies in Astoria are the ones heading this operation. =]

[Simonia]

Thanks for giving my fashbash more attention! I was looking for the salt, guess I found it just right across the table.

The region's previous Minister of Culture was Stranarei, the former delegate of Coalition of NS (https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_coalition_of_ns_fascists, you will see them on page 9 of eyebeast as the Minister of World Politics)

Here are archives of the target region before the raid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231231183 ... on=brebina

For context, the issue of the Fascist minister was presented to the delegate Goru, however after being poked several times by IMPC who was trying to bring the matter to his attention, he had refused to remove Stranarei from the position despite clear evidence of fascism.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... #p54207349 (IMPC poking the delegate)
The delegate doubles down on this, claiming he already knew Stranarei was fascist from the start but kept him in office. You will see this a few posts down.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54240839
IMPC's message about being serious with his accusation is suppressed by a Brebina RO, pretty much making it clear that they don't want to deal with this serious issue.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207423
Goru stops Stranarei from leaving, saying "Are you even a fascist anymore?"
Instead, he goes for the classic NATO 2022 bs of "raiders will lie about a region being fascist/sympathizing" despite the evidence being thrown right at his face. (https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207438)
IMPC stops poking, however Stranarei continues to make suspiciously fascist remarks, that despite it, Goru and Keltionalang (another RO) decides is completely appropriate and totally not problematically fascist at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167619
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167623
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167630
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167626 (as if that was the issue and not the fact that Stranarei wanted to "make region fascist to raid them)
There's more, give me a sec
With just this section alone it practically proves that the delegate never cared about the fact that Stranarei was (is) a fascist, and they shrugged off the part where he said "make regions fascist and then raid them", because that's not a problem at all.

It's not just that though, they also have some rather suspicious embassies that aren't embassy collectors, meaning they deliberately seeked out these embassies.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=new_marble_arch
https://www.nationstates.net/region=neonian_empire (Atomtopia)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nato_2022
https://www.nationstates.net/region=embassyregiona
https://www.nationstates.net/region=hyperborea
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bongos_united (Yeah.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=serovski_mir_2022 (Transphobe)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... of_patriam (Soviet Cobra Communist Republic)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ins ... _cellulose (Relations with Layem and Sanctum)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_imperium (Goltzborg)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=yajib (Kelvenya successor, a region that previously got raided by NATO 2022, and then bashed by PRAF, which had already been pulling embassies themselves from Brebina, meaning it wasn't Brebina who cut these ties despite the fact the original government of Kelvenya, that is now in Yajib, was an Al-Qaeda supporter.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tionalists (Was already pulling embassies before the raid.)

And to top it off:
Stranarei in Coalition of NS Fascists
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=53758417

Hope this clears it up

Why do you hate fascists so much? Most of the region is innocent.

[The Ambis]

Thanks for giving my fashbash more attention! I was looking for the salt, guess I found it just right across the table.

The region's previous Minister of Culture was Stranarei, the former delegate of Coalition of NS (https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_coalition_of_ns_fascists, you will see them on page 9 of eyebeast as the Minister of World Politics)

Here are archives of the target region before the raid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231231183 ... on=brebina

For context, the issue of the Fascist minister was presented to the delegate Goru, however after being poked several times by IMPC who was trying to bring the matter to his attention, he had refused to remove Stranarei from the position despite clear evidence of fascism.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... #p54207349 (IMPC poking the delegate)
The delegate doubles down on this, claiming he already knew Stranarei was fascist from the start but kept him in office. You will see this a few posts down.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54240839
IMPC's message about being serious with his accusation is suppressed by a Brebina RO, pretty much making it clear that they don't want to deal with this serious issue.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207423
Goru stops Stranarei from leaving, saying "Are you even a fascist anymore?"
Instead, he goes for the classic NATO 2022 bs of "raiders will lie about a region being fascist/sympathizing" despite the evidence being thrown right at his face. (https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207438)
IMPC stops poking, however Stranarei continues to make suspiciously fascist remarks, that despite it, Goru and Keltionalang (another RO) decides is completely appropriate and totally not problematically fascist at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167619
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167623
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167630
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167626 (as if that was the issue and not the fact that Stranarei wanted to "make region fascist to raid them)
There's more, give me a sec
With just this section alone it practically proves that the delegate never cared about the fact that Stranarei was (is) a fascist, and they shrugged off the part where he said "make regions fascist and then raid them", because that's not a problem at all.

It's not just that though, they also have some rather suspicious embassies that aren't embassy collectors, meaning they deliberately seeked out these embassies.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=new_marble_arch
https://www.nationstates.net/region=neonian_empire (Atomtopia)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nato_2022
https://www.nationstates.net/region=embassyregiona
https://www.nationstates.net/region=hyperborea
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bongos_united (Yeah.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=serovski_mir_2022 (Transphobe)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... of_patriam (Soviet Cobra Communist Republic)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ins ... _cellulose (Relations with Layem and Sanctum)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_imperium (Goltzborg)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=yajib (Kelvenya successor, a region that previously got raided by NATO 2022, and then bashed by PRAF, which had already been pulling embassies themselves from Brebina, meaning it wasn't Brebina who cut these ties despite the fact the original government of Kelvenya, that is now in Yajib, was an Al-Qaeda supporter.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tionalists (Was already pulling embassies before the raid.)

And to top it off:
Stranarei in Coalition of NS Fascists
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=53758417

Hope this clears it up

Oh! More for the dispatch!

[Rosartemis]

Thanks for giving my fashbash more attention! I was looking for the salt, guess I found it just right across the table.

The region's previous Minister of Culture was Stranarei, the former delegate of Coalition of NS (https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_coalition_of_ns_fascists, you will see them on page 9 of eyebeast as the Minister of World Politics)

Here are archives of the target region before the raid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231231183 ... on=brebina

For context, the issue of the Fascist minister was presented to the delegate Goru, however after being poked several times by IMPC who was trying to bring the matter to his attention, he had refused to remove Stranarei from the position despite clear evidence of fascism.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... #p54207349 (IMPC poking the delegate)
The delegate doubles down on this, claiming he already knew Stranarei was fascist from the start but kept him in office. You will see this a few posts down.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54240839
IMPC's message about being serious with his accusation is suppressed by a Brebina RO, pretty much making it clear that they don't want to deal with this serious issue.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207423
Goru stops Stranarei from leaving, saying "Are you even a fascist anymore?"
Instead, he goes for the classic NATO 2022 bs of "raiders will lie about a region being fascist/sympathizing" despite the evidence being thrown right at his face. (https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207438)
IMPC stops poking, however Stranarei continues to make suspiciously fascist remarks, that despite it, Goru and Keltionalang (another RO) decides is completely appropriate and totally not problematically fascist at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167619
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167623
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167630
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167626 (as if that was the issue and not the fact that Stranarei wanted to "make region fascist to raid them)
There's more, give me a sec
With just this section alone it practically proves that the delegate never cared about the fact that Stranarei was (is) a fascist, and they shrugged off the part where he said "make regions fascist and then raid them", because that's not a problem at all.

It's not just that though, they also have some rather suspicious embassies that aren't embassy collectors, meaning they deliberately seeked out these embassies.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=new_marble_arch
https://www.nationstates.net/region=neonian_empire (Atomtopia)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nato_2022
https://www.nationstates.net/region=embassyregiona
https://www.nationstates.net/region=hyperborea
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bongos_united (Yeah.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=serovski_mir_2022 (Transphobe)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... of_patriam (Soviet Cobra Communist Republic)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ins ... _cellulose (Relations with Layem and Sanctum)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_imperium (Goltzborg)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=yajib (Kelvenya successor, a region that previously got raided by NATO 2022, and then bashed by PRAF, which had already been pulling embassies themselves from Brebina, meaning it wasn't Brebina who cut these ties despite the fact the original government of Kelvenya, that is now in Yajib, was an Al-Qaeda supporter.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tionalists (Was already pulling embassies before the raid.)

And to top it off:
Stranarei in Coalition of NS Fascists
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=53758417

Hope this clears it up

Why do you hate fascists so much? Most of the region is innocent.

Fascists don't get frontiers, it is a way for them to spread their ideology to the young and impressionable, destroying the frontier is like ripping out the weeds, you stop a problem before it grows too big.

[Quasi-Stellar Star Civilizations]

Well, I suppose the raid is justified if it is purely anti-fascist. There is quite a bit of evidence supporting such as well.

[Angeloid Astraea]

Thanks for giving my fashbash more attention! I was looking for the salt, guess I found it just right across the table.

The region's previous Minister of Culture was Stranarei, the former delegate of Coalition of NS (https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_coalition_of_ns_fascists, you will see them on page 9 of eyebeast as the Minister of World Politics)

Here are archives of the target region before the raid:
https://web.archive.org/web/20231231183 ... on=brebina

For context, the issue of the Fascist minister was presented to the delegate Goru, however after being poked several times by IMPC who was trying to bring the matter to his attention, he had refused to remove Stranarei from the position despite clear evidence of fascism.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=displ ... #p54207349 (IMPC poking the delegate)
The delegate doubles down on this, claiming he already knew Stranarei was fascist from the start but kept him in office. You will see this a few posts down.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54240839
IMPC's message about being serious with his accusation is suppressed by a Brebina RO, pretty much making it clear that they don't want to deal with this serious issue.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207423
Goru stops Stranarei from leaving, saying "Are you even a fascist anymore?"
Instead, he goes for the classic NATO 2022 bs of "raiders will lie about a region being fascist/sympathizing" despite the evidence being thrown right at his face. (https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54207438)
IMPC stops poking, however Stranarei continues to make suspiciously fascist remarks, that despite it, Goru and Keltionalang (another RO) decides is completely appropriate and totally not problematically fascist at all.
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167619
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167623
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167630
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=54167626 (as if that was the issue and not the fact that Stranarei wanted to "make region fascist to raid them)
There's more, give me a sec
With just this section alone it practically proves that the delegate never cared about the fact that Stranarei was (is) a fascist, and they shrugged off the part where he said "make regions fascist and then raid them", because that's not a problem at all.

It's not just that though, they also have some rather suspicious embassies that aren't embassy collectors, meaning they deliberately seeked out these embassies.

https://www.nationstates.net/region=new_marble_arch
https://www.nationstates.net/region=neonian_empire (Atomtopia)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=nato_2022
https://www.nationstates.net/region=embassyregiona
https://www.nationstates.net/region=hyperborea
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_bongos_united (Yeah.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=serovski_mir_2022 (Transphobe)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the ... of_patriam (Soviet Cobra Communist Republic)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=ins ... _cellulose (Relations with Layem and Sanctum)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=the_imperium (Goltzborg)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=yajib (Kelvenya successor, a region that previously got raided by NATO 2022, and then bashed by PRAF, which had already been pulling embassies themselves from Brebina, meaning it wasn't Brebina who cut these ties despite the fact the original government of Kelvenya, that is now in Yajib, was an Al-Qaeda supporter.)
https://www.nationstates.net/region=uni ... tionalists (Was already pulling embassies before the raid.)

And to top it off:
Stranarei in Coalition of NS Fascists
https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=53758417

Hope this clears it up

Why do you hate fascists so much? Most of the region is innocent.

Why does your region, Majestia, have embassies with some of the same regions listed by Rosa? Hmm... =/

[The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia]

All from this region will be allowed into the IWN. For password Telegram Me, Spynualia, or The Democratic Kingdom of Sanadia

the iwn is accepting brebinan refugees

[Simonia]

Well, I suppose the raid is justified if it is purely anti-fascist. There is quite a bit of evidence supporting such as well.

Actually, just because Stranarei is fascist doesn't mean the rest of the region is. So this raid is not justified.

Also again, Snowyland Lana and Majestia are accepting Brebinan refugees.

[Xuela]

Well, I suppose the raid is justified if it is purely anti-fascist. There is quite a bit of evidence supporting such as well.

Actually, just because Stranarei is fascist doesn't mean the rest of the region is. So this raid is not justified.

Also again, Snowyland Lana and Majestia are accepting Brebinan refugees.

See: NATO 2022 Frontier

[Federal Republic of Serov]

I would like to come out and say that while my region is on the list of sus regions that we are NOT sus and that if you have any questions you can ask me via telegram.

- Federal Republic of Serov

[Wheath]

Sparkalia has my approval. Sorry Thal.

Just so that the appropriate people have the right amount of credit here, Sparkalia is providing support but we're not even close to the main ones involved here. Our allies in Astoria are the ones heading this operation. =]

I would have assumed it was the other way around, thanks for informing me. I'm a citizen of Astoria and resident of Sparkalia, good work.

I think Simonia ain't fascist, just impressionable.

[Simonia]

Actually, just because Stranarei is fascist doesn't mean the rest of the region is. So this raid is not justified.

Also again, Snowyland Lana and Majestia are accepting Brebinan refugees.

See: NATO 2022 Frontier

What about it?