Does fate exist?

[Saarenmaa]

Have you ever felt that you were in the right place at the right time? Could it be the result of fate or just a coincidence? Is there a higher power controlling our lives? Are there things in life that are predetermined and beyond our control? Or is it all completely random? These questions make it difficult to give a definite answer. But everyone has their own opinion on the matter. Do you believe in fate or do you think that all phenomena are just coincidences?

[Stellar Colonies]

no

[Unmet Player]

No, everything happens by chance, except death of course

[Saarenmaa]

Personally, I believe that there is no fate

[Floofybit]

Not everything happens by chance.

[Herador]

Man, I wish there was so I could blame all the bad shit that happened on something. But probably not.

[Technoscience Leftwing]

Well, we were brought up on materialistic determinism. There are cause-and-effect relationships, physics formulas, and using the formulas you can calculate where each object will be at any moment. But patterns also operate in more complex areas: it is possible to predict the course of chemical reactions if the conditions and reagents are known, to predict the development of biocenoses, to predict the development of society. And the decisions of an individual have reasons that lie in the social conditions of the era, in his upbringing and genes. Therefore, his choice is predetermined in advance.

In this case, a person’s will is a secondary and auxiliary transmission between the conditions that formed him in the past, and the conditions that will arise (with his participation) in the future. A person's will is not free, it is programmed by his family and social background.

I recently read a parable about this from the writer Korolenko. Two wise men in India found a temple of a goddess called Necessity. The first sage came there, meditated, and the statue of Necessity spoke to him. She said that all his thoughts and actions were caused by her and calculated in advance. The sage was offended that his free will was violated and he was a puppet, and he said: “I will resist you! I will starve myself to death!” The second sage came and also meditated. Hearing that his behavior was caused by Necessity, he was not offended, but was delighted and opened his mouth: “Let Necessity feed me, if my life is natural.” But Necessity did not feed him, and he, too, began to die of hunger. Ordinary people from the village walked past the sages; they did not meditate, but picked berries, ate lunch, and kissed. And the wise men, dying of hunger, thought: “But they are stupid puppets, and we are not!” But then Necessity showed them a tablet with calculations and statistics that in such situation 98% naturally eat, and 2% naturally die of hunger, also by her will and because of them prehistory background.

[High Earth]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

[Sector 12]

Have you ever felt that you were in the right place at the right time? Could it be the result of fate or just a coincidence? Is there a higher power controlling our lives? Are there things in life that are predetermined and beyond our control? Or is it all completely random? These questions make it difficult to give a definite answer. But everyone has their own opinion on the matter. Do you believe in fate or do you think that all phenomena are just coincidences?

the right man in the wrong place

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

No. The finales you arrive at in your life are based on the choices you make and the circumstances you’re in.

[Page]

I believe in hard determinism so basically yeah, I guess fate is synonymous with that there's just no divine intention to it.

[Kashimura]

Yeah, I hear the anime is really good.

I believe in the possibility of Everett’s Many Worlds Interpretation, wherein every possible reality exists and therefor everything was and is destined to happen somewhere in spacetime, making the concept of fate redundant. But as for us specifically, riding on our little temporal line, I think the universe relies more heavily on statistics. Open to the idea of fate, but mostly statistics.

[Bradfordville]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

God I hate this reasoning. So if I tell you aliens are gonna attack us and you don't listen, we all die. Therefore you should help me with this petition to ask president Biden to build the space laser. Worst case scenario, there are no aliens but we have a cool new weapon.

[Ancient Troll-tec]

I don't have any particularly strong beliefs towards anything, although I will admit, things happen to have begin aligning a little too perfectly as of recent, which might not be a coincidence. Personally, though, my strongest belief is that after death, while your brain is functionally dead, you still experience. Like, you can't perceive nothing, so you still experience as if you were alive. But instead of living your memories, you go to whatever you genuinely believe is after death. If you're a christian, and you believe you will go to heaven, you go to heaven. If you believe you're going to hell, you go to hell. So on, and so forth.

[Eahland]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

Pascal's Wager is bullshit. For starters, it's not a dichotomy. There are infinitely many possibilities, infinitely many of which will torture you infinitely for not believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in Christianity specifically. And, of course, infinitely many of them don't care about what you believe. Even if it were a random spin of the infinite roulette wheel, the odds don't particularly support Christianity over any other choice.

But of course it's not a random spin on the roulette wheel. It's an invariable fact. One option is true, all others are not. Atheism may not be the true option, but Christianity certainly isn't.

[Vikanias]

You are not predetermined to go heaven or hell, unless you are a Calvinist or something. Going to heaven or hell depends on your actions, whether they are moral or not. If you believe in the Christian God, yet are not truly pure from sin yet, you shall head to purgatory where through the seven trials you shall be ready to enter God’s grace free from sin.

[Vikanias]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

What about purgatory? I am no theologian but I feel as if our Orthodox and Protestant brothers and sisters go through purgatory to eventually enter Gods grace. I may be wrong, so I don’t know.

[Najairadarethu]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

Your problem is that the gods of the one and only true religion are indifferent towards atheists and hate Catholics... I'm afraid you'll go to the eternal abyss.

[Annalaya]

I believe that my God already has everything planned out. Nothing is a accident, and it all has already happend in another universe.

[Almighty Biden]

Yes but it'll go away if you diet and exercise

[The Zirkovian Host]

What you do today affects what happens tomorrow, but there is no grand plan. No god cares where your life goes or how you die, one day you'll just die

[Astridr]

Have you ever felt that you were in the right place at the right time? Could it be the result of fate or just a coincidence? Is there a higher power controlling our lives? Are there things in life that are predetermined and beyond our control? Or is it all completely random? These questions make it difficult to give a definite answer. But everyone has their own opinion on the matter. Do you believe in fate or do you think that all phenomena are just coincidences?

It's a game of numbers, of probabilities. I do not believe in fate nor do I believe entirely in free will. Each of us is given dice and must play a gamble each day; some of us have more dice to roll and some of us have less. The factors that determine the number of dice depend on the game you are rolling for and the deck you started with, but this in and of itself isn't a limiting factor that can't result in some unexpected outcomes, for better or worse.

Our free will is inserted into the mix by what we do with said dice and the choices we make. Some choices may take away or add dice. How we deal with the numbers when they are called also has an impact. That is the game of life to me. Luck is definitely a factor but not always.

[Galmat]

Ima lay all my card on the table, I am a Catholic, and I believe in God. The way I have always thought of it is as follows;
If you are an Atheist and you are wrong, you suffer eternal torment;
If you are an atheist and you are right, you will be in eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are wrong; you suffer eternal oblivion;
If you are a Christian and you are right, you get eternal life;
Therefore, the only logical thing to do is be a Christian,
If you still do not believe me, look up st. Thomas Aquinas’ 5 proofs for the existence of God

Pascal's Wager is bullshit. For starters, it's not a dichotomy. There are infinitely many possibilities, infinitely many of which will torture you infinitely for not believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in Christianity specifically. And, of course, infinitely many of them don't care about what you believe. Even if it were a random spin of the infinite roulette wheel, the odds don't particularly support Christianity over any other choice.

But of course it's not a random spin on the roulette wheel. It's an invariable fact. One option is true, all others are not. Atheism may not be the true option, but Christianity certainly isn't.

According to the logic of Pascal's wager, one should believe in the most evil and sadistic God possible, which to be honest for many people leads them back into Christianity. The Old Testament God seems very lacking in love and compassion and is more concerned about being worshipped than being an actual Good being.

[Astridr]

Pascal's Wager is bullshit. For starters, it's not a dichotomy. There are infinitely many possibilities, infinitely many of which will torture you infinitely for not believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in Christianity specifically. And, of course, infinitely many of them don't care about what you believe. Even if it were a random spin of the infinite roulette wheel, the odds don't particularly support Christianity over any other choice.

But of course it's not a random spin on the roulette wheel. It's an invariable fact. One option is true, all others are not. Atheism may not be the true option, but Christianity certainly isn't.

According to the logic of Pascal's wager, one should believe in the most evil and sadistic God possible, which to be honest for many people leads them back into Christianity. The Old Testament God seems very lacking in love and compassion and is more concerned about being worshipped than being an actual Good being.

This is because God is more than one deity, one of which is a genocidal storm god, and hence why OTG is a bit of an asshole compared to his more El-like NT counterpart.

[Eahland]

Pascal's Wager is bullshit. For starters, it's not a dichotomy. There are infinitely many possibilities, infinitely many of which will torture you infinitely for not believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in them. Infinitely many of them will torture you infinitely for believing in Christianity specifically. And, of course, infinitely many of them don't care about what you believe. Even if it were a random spin of the infinite roulette wheel, the odds don't particularly support Christianity over any other choice.

But of course it's not a random spin on the roulette wheel. It's an invariable fact. One option is true, all others are not. Atheism may not be the true option, but Christianity certainly isn't.

According to the logic of Pascal's wager, one should believe in the most evil and sadistic God possible, which to be honest for many people leads them back into Christianity. The Old Testament God seems very lacking in love and compassion and is more concerned about being worshipped than being an actual Good being.

This is why you should believe in Cthulhu. You'll still be eaten, but you might be eaten last!