by Zukariaa » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:12 pm
by The Floridian Coast » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:14 pm
by Derkachuj » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:16 pm
by Hornopolis » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:16 pm
Zukariaa wrote:How do I complain about your rules if I don't like them? A clear answer would be nice rather than just a lock or warning. Max Barry will not respond even if I could find out where to find him, so please don't give me that crap like the last time I asked this. Seriously, it seems like every single time I come back to this site hoping to just freely post and converse, you moderators come in and tyrannize everything. I assume Max Barry cares that the people using his site are unhappy.
by Zukariaa » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:17 pm
Hornopolis wrote:Zukariaa wrote:How do I complain about your rules if I don't like them? A clear answer would be nice rather than just a lock or warning. Max Barry will not respond even if I could find out where to find him, so please don't give me that crap like the last time I asked this. Seriously, it seems like every single time I come back to this site hoping to just freely post and converse, you moderators come in and tyrannize everything. I assume Max Barry cares that the people using his site are unhappy.
Zukariaa, #d members do not make up all of the nations in NS. Just because #d is unhappy with the moderation team and NS as a whole, doesn't mean everyone on this site who isn't a moderator is unhappy.
by Derkachuj » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:18 pm
Derkachuj wrote:you best be careful now, zuk, they are going to get you insensibly banned and they are going to recommend a sensible appeal that will be very insensibly overlooked or made in a way that you can not submit.
by NERVUN » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:18 pm
by NERVUN » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:20 pm
by Zukariaa » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:22 pm
by Derkachuj » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:23 pm
Hornopolis wrote:Zukariaa, #d members do not make up all of the nations in NS. Just because #d is unhappy with the moderation team and NS as a whole, doesn't mean everyone on this site who isn't a moderator is unhappy.
by Voracious Vendetta » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:28 pm
by Mindhar » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:30 pm
by Derkachuj » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:32 pm
by Zukariaa » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:33 pm
Mindhar wrote:If I may interject: You seem to be going into this with a rather poor attitude. From your first post in the other thread I was already catching vibes of "The rules suck, the moderators suck and I'm probably going to get banned for this." Even the title of this thread anticipates a warning.
I dare say that the mods see this, assume you're cruising for a warning/suicide-by-mod, and are commensurately more harsh. Yes, the mods do fuck up a fair bit. Yes, some of their rules are not to my taste. Yes, they do toss out canned responses to complaints. Assuming some kind of personal vendetta against you, though, is ludicrous. There are what, a dozen mods or so, on a website with 60,000 nations? Most of them undoubtedly don't monitor the forum much, either. And one or two pages of new complaints surface per day. I find it hard to imagine that they even think about you unless they know you as a player from your preferred forum.
If you're the OP, or not the OP and still feel this applies to you, remember one of Wikipedia's cardinal rules: Assume good faith.
by NERVUN » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:34 pm
Zukariaa wrote:I don't like how overbearing and unnecessary the rules on this forum are. I make a single semi-serious comment about how the system inadvertently encourages its members to turn on each other using the moderators as a shield, and then I'm immediately warned. Why is that necessary? I realize its in the rules but why? Use some judgment, you don't have to eat the rules for breakfast.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:36 pm
Zukariaa wrote:I don't like how overbearing and unnecessary the rules on this forum are. I make a single semi-serious comment about how the system inadvertently encourages its members to turn on each other using the moderators as a shield, and then I'm immediately warned. Why is that necessary? I realize its in the rules but why? Use some judgment, you don't have to eat the rules for breakfast.
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Zukariaa wrote:This site seriously encourages its members to turn on each other so they can get brownie points by reporting 'rule breakers'.
Some folks just can't resist commenting where their comments are not only unhelpful but unwanted. *** Warned *** for spamming in Moderation.
Sharf can hold whatever illusions he likes, so long as he doesn't break the rules when posting. A sad attempt at snark isn't likely to be actionable.
Katganistan wrote:If you are not:
1) Bringing up a matter of concern with Moderation
2) Reporting a rules violation
3) Linking to a relevant rule or relevant post
4) Answering a report about yourself
do NOT post in moderation. We've gotten many, many, "in my opinion" posts and downright wrong non-mod rulings and they are just NOT HELPFUL.
We're going to start banning folks who can't just stay out unless they have something useful to say.
by NERVUN » Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:38 pm
Voracious Vendetta wrote:One thing I've always had a small grievance with is apparently if we try to help someone in the Moderator forum before a moderator comes, once the moderator does the solve the problem then we're yelled at for spamming moderation. I question them politely privately and i'm told to file GHR.
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