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Should all Erdogan supporters in European Union countries be sent back to Turkey ?

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Postby Guanzong » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:13 am

I support all Turks leaving Europe and if deporting Erdogan fans is the first step then I'm all for it :clap:

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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:18 am

Guanzong wrote:I support all Turks leaving Europe and if deporting Erdogan fans is the first step then I'm all for it :clap:


Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?
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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:21 am

Portzania wrote:Maybe they're just Mongolian? (Bulgarian)


And Hungarians and Finns and Estonians.
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:22 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Guanzong wrote:I support all Turks leaving Europe and if deporting Erdogan fans is the first step then I'm all for it :clap:


Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?

remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again

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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:23 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?

remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again


So did the British. I don't see an anti English immigration league forming.
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Postby Guanzong » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:26 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Guanzong wrote:I support all Turks leaving Europe and if deporting Erdogan fans is the first step then I'm all for it :clap:


Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?


In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning

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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:28 am

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?


In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning


Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants. Same thing happened in America when sicilians first arrived, and look at how things changed. In 45 years, these people's descendants might just be Germans like everyone else. Things change.
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Postby Guanzong » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:29 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?

remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again


This, Ottomans ethnically replaced the area of current day "Kosovo" and got rid of Serbs there and now Albanians pretend like they have claim to it

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Postby Guanzong » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:30 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Guanzong wrote:
In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning


Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants. Same thing happened in America when sicilians first arrived, and look at how things changed. In 45 years, these people's descendants might just be Germans like everyone else. Things change.


>Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants
That's why I don't want any immigrants in Europe! :lol:

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Postby Portzania » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:30 am

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?

remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again

Ottoman empire...? Don't you mean Albanian?
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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:34 am

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants. Same thing happened in America when sicilians first arrived, and look at how things changed. In 45 years, these people's descendants might just be Germans like everyone else. Things change.


>Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants
That's why I don't want any immigrants in Europe! :lol:


Or you could just integrate them. Like many cultures across time and space have done. It's easier than trying to forcibly remove thousands of people.
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Postby Guanzong » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:40 am

Bradfordville wrote:
Guanzong wrote:
>Tends to be what happens with impoverished new immigrants
That's why I don't want any immigrants in Europe! :lol:


Or you could just integrate them. Like many cultures across time and space have done. It's easier than trying to forcibly remove thousands of people.


Is that why despite Blacks living in America for hundreds of years (and countless attempts to integrate them) they still overwhelmingly overrepresent when it comes to crime statistics and at over double their % per population recieve welfare?

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Postby West Assryia » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:42 am

Literally calling for deportation

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Postby Arvenia » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:01 pm

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?


In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning

Now that's just racist. Integration would be a better option.
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Postby Durius » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:06 pm

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Or you could just integrate them. Like many cultures across time and space have done. It's easier than trying to forcibly remove thousands of people.


Is that why despite Blacks living in America for hundreds of years (and countless attempts to integrate them) they still overwhelmingly overrepresent when it comes to crime statistics and at over double their % per population recieve welfare?

I like how you completely ignore the fact that those "hundred of years" include many where their population was reduced to the state of mere slaves, followed by many years of racial segregation where black people were given little to no chance of reaching prosperous life. What successful attempt at integration!

I also like that, despite you knowing that black people are often confined to the margins of society, which is often correlated with crime, you still rage against the welfare system: that is one of the best tools for black people to actually leave the spiral of poverty that was imposed on them and properly integrate.

In short, you surely write very likable comments with those great skills of yours to misrepresent the truth.
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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:13 pm

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Or you could just integrate them. Like many cultures across time and space have done. It's easier than trying to forcibly remove thousands of people.


Is that why despite Blacks living in America for hundreds of years (and countless attempts to integrate them) they still overwhelmingly overrepresent when it comes to crime statistics and at over double their % per population recieve welfare?


Tends to be the case when you segregate someone for hundreds of years and deny them economic opportunities afforded to other people. As I said, if you properly integrate the turks, that won't be an issue.
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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:36 pm

Guanzong wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?


In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning

Babe wake up. New crime statistic dropped
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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:37 pm

Arvenia wrote:
Guanzong wrote:
In 2018, The Wall Street Journal analyzed German crime statistics for crime suspects and found that the foreigners, overall 12.8% of the population, make up a disproportionate share of crime suspects (34.7%), see horizontal bar chart.[27]

In 2016, 31.4% of all convicted offenders were foreigners,[28] about 3 times higher than the percentage of foreigners living in Germany.[29]

According to The Huffington Post in February 2018, out of each of the 15 state justice ministries, 12,300 Muslims are in prison. This constitutes about 20% of the 65,000 prison population in Germany, proving to be an over-representation. The highest shares are in city states of Bremen (29%), Hamburg (28%) but the share is high also in large states such as Hessen (26%) Baden-Württemberg (26%). The share is lower in the former East Germany.[30]

In 2018, the interior ministry published an analysis of the Federal Police Statistic (PKS) for the first time, which included all the people who came via the asylum system into Germany.[31] The report found that the group defined as immigrants, which constitutes 2% of the total population, makes up 8.5% of all crime suspects

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_ ... ationality

I would like to see all foreigners out of Germany in the end so Turks would be just the beginning

Now that's just racist. Integration would be a better option.

Turkish people cannot be integrated into German culture. The entire point of Turkish culture is that they are Turkish and they are insanely nationalistic. Giving up Turkish identity is unacceptable to them.
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Portzania wrote:Just embrace your nomadic steppe life Hakinda, I bet you'd love living in a yurt and riding a horse in the distant plains like your ancestors!
Let's get back to the facts! The imperialists, who cannot see the Turks as Europeans, are secret defenders of political Islam. Just as we did with the Ottoman and Byzantine monarchies, we will crush all your racist religious ideas. Long live democracy, long live the republic, secular Rome !

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Postby Durius » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:40 pm

Eternal Algerstonia wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Why? Who cares if turks are in europe?

remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again

No, it did not started as immigration. Please, learn the meaning of immigration.

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Eternal Algerstonia wrote:remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again


So did the British. I don't see an anti English immigration league forming.


I assure you can find some in Portugal and Spain.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Let's get back to the facts! The imperialists, who cannot see the Turks as Europeans, are secret defenders of political Islam. Just as we did with the Ottoman and Byzantine monarchies, we will crush all your racist religious ideas. Long live democracy, long live the republic, secular Rome !

You're not European, and never were.

You will never be a real European.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:42 pm

Is this the loophole we use to start deporting Turks? Very clever.

However, Erdogan has a lot of chips in his hand. If you piss him off he will just flood Europe with more refugees.
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Postby Unogonduria » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:42 pm

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:
Unogonduria wrote:You're not European, and never were.

You will never be a real European.

Seems fine to me, as long as I don't have to eat insects like the EU passed a bill to!
Not to mention we mixed with slavs, making me more-European that the turk that wants other turks deported back to his homeland!
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Eternal Algerstonia wrote:remember the OTTOMAN EMPIRE? it was started entirely by IMMIGRATION. armed organized groups of immigrant turks completely overran other states and then declared loyalty to the ottomans. we have to very careful with immigrating turks because erdogan just might send armed immigrants to declare the ottoman empire again

No, it did not started as immigration. Please, learn the meaning of immigration.

It did start with immigration. The illegal immigrant turks flooded the Byzantine Empire- beautiful country by the way, I know lots of lovely people from there- and they destroyed and took Byzantine jobs and land. They CROSSED the border wall ILLEGALLY and look where that got the Byzantines. They're gone now- it's a very sad story- so sad. But it's a LESSON, people. They should have built a wall.
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Postby Bradfordville » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:45 pm

Unogonduria wrote:
Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:You will never be a real European.

Seems fine to me, as long as I don't have to eat insects like the EU passed a bill to!
Not to mention we mixed with slavs, making me more-European that the turk that wants other turks deported back to his homeland!


Who is you exactly, if you're not European but are mixed with slavs?
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