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New Vavlar
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Founded: Apr 29, 2023
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New Vavlar » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:27 am

Drunken Conquerors wrote:Provenance not Providence, wow...

Spy gave info, spy will continue to leak, why give up spy? Spy Good. Everyone wants good spy. Some are mad because spy is not on their side.

Pretty, pretty good.

Spy, I hope you are reading this, I pat you on the head. Well done. TRR government has been a corrupted mess for at least 20 years, keep leaking, but be careful of canary traps :!: :!:

Why the hell are you talking

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Reventus Koth
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Reventus Koth » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:29 am

What splendid news for the leaker, you've got DC's approval. I'm sure that gives you warm fuzzies about your actions.
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Quebecshire
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Quebecshire » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:32 am

Reventus Koth wrote:What splendid news for the leaker, you've got DC's approval. I'm sure that gives you warm fuzzies about your actions.

This comment is completely inappropriate. What the fuck?
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:39 am

I think you missed the sarcasm there, Q.
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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:40 am

I can see how that can be taken differently than I intended. No argument from me, I didn't mean to put them on the same OOC level and I see how it reads that way now, no need to defend me Roav.
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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:49 am

Roavin wrote:I think you missed the sarcasm there, Q.

I didn’t miss anything. I’d rather not go back and forth about this because Koth gets the issue and that’s that, we all say dumb shit, but sarcasm doesn’t make it not a bad comment. Who would think it’s funny and cool to be the butt of the joke about how you and DC are finding things in common? Especially with the reputation his name has. Come on.
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Drunken Conquerors
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Founded: Sep 03, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Drunken Conquerors » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:17 pm

Reventus Koth wrote:What splendid news for the leaker, you've got DC's approval. I'm sure that gives you warm fuzzies about your actions.


You have no leg to stand on with the company you have kept in The Black Hawks. Several times.

Quebecshire wrote:
Roavin wrote:I think you missed the sarcasm there, Q.


I didn’t miss anything. I’d rather not go back and forth about this because Koth gets the issue and that’s that, we all say dumb shit, but sarcasm doesn’t make it not a bad comment. Who would think it’s funny and cool to be the butt of the joke about how you and DC are finding things in common? Especially with the reputation his name has. Come on.


Again, my reputation in this game does not, never has, and never will have actual IRL OOC. Because I am actually a good man. Unlike some. Back to the point of my original post, after the weak attempt at character assassination:

Spy on, good spying person! Don't let my cheering be misconstrued as jeering!

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Post Muslim Accepted Populace
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Post Muslim Accepted Populace » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:23 pm

Drunken Conquerors wrote:Provenance not Providence, wow...

Spy gave info, spy will continue to leak, why give up spy? Spy Good. Everyone wants good spy. Some are mad because spy is not on their side.

Pretty, pretty good.

Spy, I hope you are reading this, I pat you on the head. Well done. TRR government has been a corrupted mess for at least 20 years, keep leaking, but be careful of canary traps :!: :!:

i bribed the delegaate with a legendary card i confurm

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TheKeyToJoy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:35 pm

Drunken Conquerors wrote:Provenance not Providence, wow...

Spy gave info, spy will continue to leak, why give up spy? Spy Good. Everyone wants good spy. Some are mad because spy is not on their side.

Pretty, pretty good.

Spy, I hope you are reading this, I pat you on the head. Well done. TRR government has been a corrupted mess for at least 20 years, keep leaking, but be careful of canary traps :!: :!:

Who the hell are you?
Oh yeah did we catch the spy or no?
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Sedgistan
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Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:16 pm

The topic here is the Rejected Realms, not Drunken Conquerors.

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MANS0N
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Anarchy

Postby MANS0N » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:48 pm

Sedgistan wrote:The topic here is the Rejected Realms, not Drunken Conquerors.


He hasn’t been a relevant topic in TRR since 2005.

Moving on, no KeyToJoy, it’s not public knowledge who the leaker is yet. The government may know (doubtful since Euro seems to be keeping their box of secrets locked up) but the public doesn’t.

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Comrade Cat
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Ex-Nation

Postby Comrade Cat » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:01 pm

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Joint Statement: Resolution of Talks between TRR and Europeia

Europeia and The Rejected Realms recently embarked on renewed diplomatic talks, observed and facilitated by other members of Aegis. The result of those talks is the following joint statement.

Europeia apologises to TRR for mishandling TRR's sensitive information by receiving the information without promptly notifying TRR, which would have been the proper response. This information came originally from a citizens-only discussion area on TRR's forum, from which information must not be shared with non-citizens. Europeia recognises TRR's interest in preserving the integrity and confidentiality of its restricted-access areas, and the negative effect that undermining it has on TRR's wellbeing. By using the post in diplomatic talks with TNP, Europeia further disseminated the confidential information without notifying TRR. Europeia's decision not to communicate with TRR beforehand played a part in creating the original incident, so Europeia has resolved to communicate promptly and openly in the future.

TRR and Europeia agreed to third party fact-finding by Amerion, Foreign Minister of The South Pacific, as part of the renewed talks. His mandate was to investigate the following questions, as defined by TRR:

(1) Whether Europeia knows the identity of the leaker;
(2) Whether Europeia is prevented from disclosing further information due to existing treaty obligations;
(3) Whether the information in Europeia's possession suggests an ongoing security risk to TRR.

Amerion discussed the matter confidentially with Europeia, and announced to Aegis that he was "satisfied on all three accounts. I do not believe that Europeia is directly aware of the original source of the information (the leaker); I am confident that existing treaty obligations prevents further disclosure of information and that such a disclosure would cause considerable harm to Europeia; and I do not believe that there is an active security risk to TRR that Europeia is aware of." TRR accepts these findings, and on that basis agrees that Europeia did not conduct espionage, is not aware of any attempts to do so, and is in good standing within Aegis.

Europeia and TRR now consider the matter settled and closed. Neither party will make further claims arising from it. Both regions have agreed to move on and focus on our shared interests. This includes Aegis-wide talks on information handling to strengthen the alliance and ensure in the future, matters such as this one are handled appropriately. Europeia and TRR believe that the Aegis Accords has a bright future, and look forward to building it together.


Signed,

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Salem, Officer of External Affairs

Pland Adanna, President
Forillian, Vice President
Kazaman, Advisor for Foreign Affairs
Sanjurika, Minister of Foreign Affairs
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Kazaman
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Founded: Nov 24, 2006
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Kazaman » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:04 pm

I'm glad we were able to work this out in the end. On my part, and Euro's, I'll say this was well worth the effort and we look forward to working with TRR.

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Sporaltryus
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Founded: Jun 01, 2014
Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Sporaltryus » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:13 pm

Appreciate everyone’s efforts to get this resolved.
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Reventus Koth
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Founded: Apr 03, 2016
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Reventus Koth » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:17 pm

And the leak gets away unscathed.
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Mlakhavia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mlakhavia » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:35 pm

Very funny that this stuff can be agonised over for weeks at this point and all you could get out of Europeia was an "i'm sowwy >m< wont do it again we promise"
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Sanjurika
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Sanjurika » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:55 pm

Thankful we were able to get this worked out, and excited to continue to work with TRR!
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One Small Island
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Father Knows Best State

Postby One Small Island » Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:56 pm

Glad this could be resolved amicably between both parties.
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Toerana
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Postby Toerana » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:33 pm

I'll go reset the "nonsense Euro statement" timer.
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Angeloid Astraea
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Angeloid Astraea » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:34 pm

2 funnies:

1st funny: TRR and Europeia calling what Europeia did with the leak "Using the post in diplomatic talks with TNP"
2nd funny: The MoFA of TSP investigating something that hurt a big political player from The North Pacific, after TNP and TSP's breakup

TRR and Europeia want to move on, so I'm okay moving on too. I'll still point and laugh at the absurd bits, though. =P

EDIT: When I refer to to this in the future, I'm sooo tempted to refer to it as "The Cross-Regional Political Fucking-Over of Madjack".
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King HEM
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby King HEM » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:47 pm

Mlakhavia wrote:Very funny that this stuff can be agonised over for weeks at this point and all you could get out of Europeia was an "i'm sowwy >m< wont do it again we promise"

Maybe in the future more people on forum.nationstates.net should be more selective on what they chose to agonize over?

Thanks to everyone who contributed to calmer heads prevailing at the end. I'm very excited to see the Aegis partnership keep growing — our best days are ahead! :)
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Angeloid Astraea
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Angeloid Astraea » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:51 pm

King HEM wrote:
Mlakhavia wrote:Very funny that this stuff can be agonised over for weeks at this point and all you could get out of Europeia was an "i'm sowwy >m< wont do it again we promise"

Maybe in the future more people on forum.nationstates.net should be more selective on what they chose to agonize over?

Thanks to everyone who contributed to calmer heads prevailing at the end. I'm very excited to see the Aegis partnership keep growing — our best days are ahead! :)


If you're such a raider sympathizer, why are you cheering for a defender alliance? =[
I don't feel sympathized for, King HEM! This is disappointing! D=
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Mlakhavia
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Ex-Nation

Postby Mlakhavia » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:53 pm

King HEM wrote:
Mlakhavia wrote:Very funny that this stuff can be agonised over for weeks at this point and all you could get out of Europeia was an "i'm sowwy >m< wont do it again we promise"

Maybe in the future more people on forum.nationstates.net should be more selective on what they chose to agonize over?

There are multiple posts here by people who are, frankly, far more consequential than I, and express frustration as opposed to amusement, with the latter being the nature of my post. I'm not agonising over anything. Go back to pretending you respect your allies.
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/ Independent of the Year 2023 / Air Marshal of the People's Revolutionary Air Force / Terror of Trinidad /

Perfidious trickster beloved by all*, legitimate Delegate of Warzone Trinidad, &c. 'Tyrant', 'unhinged', 'Misley 2', 'fucking annoying', 'a genuinely terrible person'
She / Her


[iota] — «being british is fine when you do it»
[nota] — «you embody the spirit of what i enjoy in raiding»
[wasc] — «Sleet is an amazing person, do not follow in her footsteps»

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King HEM
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Founded: Mar 07, 2007
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby King HEM » Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:57 pm

Angeloid Astraea wrote:
King HEM wrote:Maybe in the future more people on forum.nationstates.net should be more selective on what they chose to agonize over?

Thanks to everyone who contributed to calmer heads prevailing at the end. I'm very excited to see the Aegis partnership keep growing — our best days are ahead! :)


If you're such a raider sympathizer, why are you cheering for a defender alliance? =[
I don't feel sympathized for, King HEM! This is disappointing! D=

I am a raider sympathizer! But I am also mostly irrelevant as my signature states, so I think it's OK hehe 8)
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Halsona
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Halsona » Tue Jul 04, 2023 1:24 am

Of course, the leaker gets away unscathed. Basically nothing happened after the outrage of multiple parties and the screwing over of MadJack. Logic at its finest.

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