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Postby Galactic Powers » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:46 am

Everyone kind of misses the point with the "oh, it's so commercialized" arguments.

Once your group is marketable, you know you've made progress in acceptance.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:47 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

It’s only a sin if you believe it is. Otherwise it’s not.

Also summer has been going on since beginning of May, at least in my area
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Postby Femcia » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:47 am

Happy pride month everyone!
I hope you stay safe and take care of all of your friends. I wish the best for you and I hope you will be happy this month. I myself getting better recently. Hope you are too.

Have a good day y'all!
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Postby Gaybeans » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:47 am

Your friendly neighbourhood dyke is here, queer and going nowhere.

Fuck rainbow capitalism, the first pride was a riot and we need that brick throwin' energy for 2023
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Postby Dalavi » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:48 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

sin month or mental illness month depends on which anti-lgbtq you ask
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Postby Shudana » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:50 am

Rocky Mountain Collective wrote:The idea is disingenuous and mostly used by corporate entities to milk the idea for as much cash as they can get from it. Its corrupt, and consumeristic


I agree.

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Postby Kenmoria » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:57 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

The modern definition of “pride”, in the context of the month, doesn’t correlate well with the “ὑπερηφάνοις” condemned in James 4:6 and 1 Peter 5:5. ὑπερηφάνοις, translated literally, is to put oneself above others. I feel as though a better modern translation is “self-important” or “egotistic”. The definition that modern English uses for “pride” in such senses as “Alice and Bob are proud of their children”, and “Charlie is proud to be a Christian” is simply the result of semantic drift.

Gaybeans wrote:Your friendly neighbourhood dyke is here, queer and going nowhere.

Fuck rainbow capitalism, the first pride was a riot and we need that brick throwin' energy for 2023

I feel as though there is not a mutually exclusive choice between “capitalist” and “not throwing bricks”. Options are available between the two extremes, though it isn’t even that. It more forms a punnet square. One can be capitalist and throw bricks, anticapitalist and throw bricks, capitalist and not throw bricks, or anticapitalist and not throw bricks. I will be enjoying my democratic socialism with some tea and scones, and anything that I do for Pride will be trying to create more of a friendly atmosphere than a hostile one.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:59 am

Dalavi wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

sin month or mental illness month depends on which anti-lgbtq you ask

Both but I was in a good mood and didn't want to be too conservative.
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Postby Cappedore » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:04 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Dalavi wrote:sin month or mental illness month depends on which anti-lgbtq you ask

Both but I was in a good mood and didn't want to be too conservative.

Not very moderate of you...
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Postby Democratic Poopland » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:15 am

Gaybeans wrote:Your friendly neighbourhood dyke is here, queer and going nowhere.

Fuck rainbow capitalism, the first pride was a riot and we need that brick throwin' energy for 2023

Absolutely! Let's go and do what we do best as NationStates players; riot!

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Postby The Greater sussian reich » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:08 am

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:10 am

Woo, the month of the queers is back on the menu, baybee!

The folks calling it sin are gonna be shocked when God slaps 'em outside the pearly gates for doing the much greater actual sin of not loving everyone as was ordained :­)
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:11 am

The Greater sussian reich wrote:another thing i just don't care about


And yet you're here.
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Postby Cook-Out » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:50 am

Page wrote:NSG's resident bisexual anarchist reporting for duty. I'd like to be on the following committees: fash-bashing, kink-validating, and putting rainbow scarves on doggos. Also, I found this picture of a couple who got the thin blue line tattoo in the shape of Mickey Mouse, and I need some of you to come on a road trip with me to find DeSantis and show it to him, as the paradoxical contradiction of bootlicking alongside the Dark Mouse of Wokeness will induce such cognitive dissonance that his brain will explode.


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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:50 am

I hear if you don't fly a rainbow flag during Pride Month then the LGBTs come after you during Wrath Month. Your only hope is staying ahead of them until Sloth Month.
Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

PRIDE MONTH

Wake up, sheeple!
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Postby The Crimson Isles » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:56 am

I could care less tbh, I got my own shit to worry about like how the fuck I'm gonna survive in today's economy
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Postby The Southwest Islands » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:06 am

The thing that I don't like about it is that a group of people (a minority I should add, not being anti-minority, but I will explain in the next few sentences) that some if not most people consider as sinners get an entire month, and look at everyone else. Veterans get 2 days (3 if you count July 4th). The Irish get one day. Workers get one day. Parents get 2 days (one for moms, one for dads). The presidents get 1 day (2 if you count July 4th). Christians get 2 days (4 if you count St. Patricks Day and St. Valentines Day). Mexicans get 1 day, and the list keeps going. I'm okay if you give them a day, but a WHOLE MONTH. Chill bro, yes they are a minority, but they made a choice on being gay. The only groups that have a whole month are racial minorities (Blacks, Native Americans, Asian/Pacific Islanders, etc.) who didn't make the choice to be in that minority group. Last time I checked, LGBT is not a race, it is a choice that people make that some (including me) consider a sin. A day to celebrate sin is already enough (I'm from Louisiana, so Mardi Gras is a prime example), but a whole month! 8% of your calendar is dedicated to homosexuals. Let that sink in. Don't start saying that I'm homophobic, I am neither fearful or hateful of the people themselves, but I don't like the choice that they made. If we are going to start making months about people who made a bad choice, we should make May dropout month, January alcoholics month, and February r@pe month.
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Postby The Southwest Islands » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:10 am

Ifreann wrote:I hear if you don't fly a rainbow flag during Pride Month then the LGBTs come after you during Wrath Month. Your only hope is staying ahead of them until Sloth Month.
Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

PRIDE MONTH

Wake up, sheeple!


Also, people like you are the reason why I'm not a Christian. I agree with Christian morals, but I am not Christian myself.
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Postby The Southwest Islands » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:12 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

It’s only a sin if you believe it is. Otherwise it’s not.

Also summer has been going on since beginning of May, at least in my area


A. Last time I checked, murder, r@pe, theft, etc. are still not only crimes but sins no matter if you think it is wrong or right.

B. I'm in Louisiana, so summer started about mid April.
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Postby The Crimson Isles » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:13 am

The Southwest Islands wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I hear if you don't fly a rainbow flag during Pride Month then the LGBTs come after you during Wrath Month. Your only hope is staying ahead of them until Sloth Month.

PRIDE MONTH

Wake up, sheeple!


Also, people like you are the reason why I'm not a Christian. I agree with Christian morals, but I am not Christian myself.


I think it was sarcasm... hopefully
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:13 am

The Southwest Islands wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I hear if you don't fly a rainbow flag during Pride Month then the LGBTs come after you during Wrath Month. Your only hope is staying ahead of them until Sloth Month.

PRIDE MONTH

Wake up, sheeple!


Also, people like you are the reason why I'm not a Christian. I agree with Christian morals, but I am not Christian myself.

Damn, hope the Pope doesn't hear about this.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:14 am

The Southwest Islands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It’s only a sin if you believe it is. Otherwise it’s not.

Also summer has been going on since beginning of May, at least in my area


A. Last time I checked, murder, r@pe, theft, etc. are still not only crimes but sins no matter if you think it is wrong or right.

B. I'm in Louisiana, so summer started about mid April.

Well, no. Whether those are sins or not is wholly dependent on whether you believe in such a thing as "sin" to begin with.
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Postby Dominorvia » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:14 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I don't care for and condemn Sin Month. Otherwise hope everyone has a good month of June and a great first full month of Summer.

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Postby Cappedore » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:14 am

The Southwest Islands wrote:The thing that I don't like about it is that a group of people (a minority I should add, not being anti-minority, but I will explain in the next few sentences) that some if not most people consider as sinners get an entire month, and look at everyone else. Veterans get 2 days (3 if you count July 4th). The Irish get one day. Workers get one day. Parents get 2 days (one for moms, one for dads). The presidents get 1 day (2 if you count July 4th). Christians get 2 days (4 if you count St. Patricks Day and St. Valentines Day). Mexicans get 1 day, and the list keeps going. I'm okay if you give them a day, but a WHOLE MONTH. Chill bro, yes they are a minority, but they made a choice on being gay. The only groups that have a whole month are racial minorities (Blacks, Native Americans, Asian/Pacific Islanders, etc.) who didn't make the choice to be in that minority group. Last time I checked, LGBT is not a race, it is a choice that people make that some (including me) consider a sin. A day to celebrate sin is already enough (I'm from Louisiana, so Mardi Gras is a prime example), but a whole month! 8% of your calendar is dedicated to homosexuals. Let that sink in. Don't start saying that I'm homophobic, I am neither fearful or hateful of the people themselves, but I don't like the choice that they made.

"I'm not homophobic. I don't fear or hate homosexuality. I just dislike it!" Is pretty much what you've just said. So pretty much, yes, you are homophobic; that is blatantly obvious.

Also, not true. A lot of national holidays wouldn't exist without Christianity; Easter holidays, Christmas holidays, you add all of those up and you have well over a month.

The "what about our Veterans" argument is so bogus. Why do you need to remember veterans and those who have died in wars on a singular day? You should be remembering those who have thought for the freedom of all people pretty much all the time, not within the space of a month, or a few days. Besides, there literally is a veteran's month. It's May, and in a lot of places November is also celebrated for veterans for the entire month and not just Armistice Day

Being gay is not a choice. If it was a choice, then it would be easier for me to choose to be straight, but I can't, because choosing to be straight would be going against my body's natural instinct and I would be incredibly uncomfortable pretending to be straight. It's unnatural for a gay person to try and be straight in the same respect that it's unnatural for a straight person to try and be gay.

It's fine if you consider it a sin, great. But it's that way of thinking that causes things like Pride Month to happen in the first place; because of people who call it "sinful" and who actively campaign against homosexuality because they're hellbent on ruining the lives of others. If you didn't want Pride Month to happen, then best you start being a little bit more accepting of homosexuality as a whole.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:20 am

The Southwest Islands wrote:The thing that I don't like about it is that a group of people (a minority I should add, not being anti-minority, but I will explain in the next few sentences) that some if not most people consider as sinners get an entire month, and look at everyone else. Veterans get 2 days (3 if you count July 4th). The Irish get one day. Workers get one day. Parents get 2 days (one for moms, one for dads). The presidents get 1 day (2 if you count July 4th). Christians get 2 days (4 if you count St. Patricks Day and St. Valentines Day). Mexicans get 1 day, and the list keeps going. I'm okay if you give them a day, but a WHOLE MONTH.

Sounds like you just don't understand the difference between a holiday and an observance, my guy.
Also, pick a day. Any day. You can probably find some saint's feast day or something. There's way more holidays in the world than you give credit for.
Chill bro, yes they are a minority, but they made a choice on being gay. The only groups that have a whole month are racial minorities (Blacks, Native Americans, Asian/Pacific Islanders, etc.) who didn't make the choice to be in that minority group. Last time I checked, LGBT is not a race, it is a choice that people make that some (including me) consider a sin.

It's not a choice lmfao
A day to celebrate sin is already enough (I'm from Louisiana, so Mardi Gras is a prime example), but a whole month! 8% of your calendar is dedicated to homosexuals. Let that sink in. Don't start saying that I'm homophobic, I am neither fearful or hateful of the people themselves, but I don't like the choice that they made. If we are going to start making months about people who made a bad choice, we should make May dropout month, January alcoholics month, and February r@pe month.

Shit, even if it WAS a choice, what makes it a "bad" one? Especially on the level of fucking rape? Jesus, and you have the gall to claim you don't fear or hate LGBT people... :roll:
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