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by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun May 28, 2023 11:57 am
by El Lazaro » Sun May 28, 2023 1:41 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Turkish Nation Is Not Intelligent.
by Southland » Sun May 28, 2023 1:45 pm
Disserbia wrote:swaziland on acid and jesus
Ealdracaland wrote:I get a weird vibe from the sun on the flag. It feels like it's looking at me with malicious intent.
Verkhoyanska wrote:Condemn for having that creepy looking sun in your flag. IT'S STARING INTO MY SOUL.
Reloviskistan wrote:Unrelated: AN's flag looks like a mural on the wall of a Mexican restaurant
Valehart wrote:That flag's face is high on something that's illegal in most countries
Spiritkin Village wrote:Banned for you constantly implying you got all this lore, yet have no factbooks. Like at this point it is just a tease.
by Dayganistan » Sun May 28, 2023 3:23 pm
by Bahrimontagn » Sun May 28, 2023 3:29 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Turkish Nation Is Not Intelligent.
Restored New Jersey wrote:Sounds like Erdogan's Turkey is a Russian Trojan Horse within NATO. Even so, how to do with it....is there a way to suspend their membership and their veto long enough to let Sweden in? Is there a precedent for that?
by Corrian » Sun May 28, 2023 10:01 pm
by Page » Sun May 28, 2023 10:50 pm
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Mon May 29, 2023 8:47 am
by Parti Ouvrier » Mon May 29, 2023 10:39 am
Risottia wrote:Well, I am a bit underwhelmed by the shock.
by Parti Ouvrier » Mon May 29, 2023 10:45 am
Corrian wrote:Yup, as expected, Erdogan won.
What a shame. It seemed like he was maybe headed for a loss going into the election. One annoying authoritarian left to deal with in the world for the foreseeable future.
by Vistulange » Mon May 29, 2023 7:26 pm
Parti Ouvrier wrote:Corrian wrote:Yup, as expected, Erdogan won.
What a shame. It seemed like he was maybe headed for a loss going into the election. One annoying authoritarian left to deal with in the world for the foreseeable future.
Kemal would have been a right-wing authoritarian and nationalist too, not that much would have changed anyway.
by Bahrimontagn » Mon May 29, 2023 8:26 pm
Page wrote:Being a bit autistic, I fucking hate it when people do celebratory horn honking after football games, it triggers anxiety attacks, but last night it went on for goddamn hours and suddenly I realized there was no game, it was thousands of Turkish people here in Germany celebrating Erdogan's victory. Which is so much fucking worse.
by Transsibiria » Mon May 29, 2023 10:17 pm
Official Nation Name: Union of Socialist Soviet States
Government Type: Socialist Federal Republic
Capital: Novosibirsk
Current Year: 2022
Population: 167 Million
Location: Siberia and East Asia
Factbook (work in progress)
Also attempting to get NS stats close to canon
Disclaimer:
This nation is part of a worldbuilding experiment and is a work of fiction.
It does not represents the authors OOC views.
by -Astoria- » Mon May 29, 2023 10:34 pm
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by El Lazaro » Mon May 29, 2023 11:05 pm
by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Mon May 29, 2023 11:19 pm
El Lazaro wrote:With the date of the general election finalized, the Turkish election season has begun. On May 14, Turks will elect a president and all 600 members of the Grand National Assembly. To clear up any confusion, Turkey is an authoritarian state with elections which are simultaneously contestable and skewed against the opposition. Though President Erdogan didn’t create this system, he has wielded it effectively to reign for two decades (longer than any of his predecessors) and fundamentally reshape the Turkish political system.
Erdogan first became Turkey’s leader in 2003, running as a populist and religious moderate pitted against a corrupt, authoritarian, and elitist political establishment both intolerant of ethnic minorities and the visibly religious and incapable of resolving economic issues. He swept the elections, survived both the 2007 military coup threat and a 2016 coup attempt, used the aforementioned events as a springboard to consolidate power and reform the constitution, purged his enemies, saturated the media and legal system with loyalists, and made a new political establishment in his own image. Beyond aesthetic differences, what sets him apart is that he’s a savvy politician, in spite of his unpopularity.
Essentially, this election is a referendum on Erdogan, who can loosely be described as a right-wing populist, national-chauvinist, and charismatic demagogue. Though he initially ran on a promise to defeat economic mismanagement and corruption, soaring inflation and crippling wealth inequality—showcased by the horrific aftermath of the 2023 earthquakes—have undermined his popularity. Still, the opposition faces the challenges of finding a persuasive, unifying message and overcoming Erdogan’s grip on Turkish political institutions. Without further ado, here are the parties by their alliances:
People’s Alliance/CUMHUR (right-wing to far-right)The People’s Alliance is the incumbent electoral alliance, backing Erdogan and his political agenda. Along with the Nation Alliance, the People’s Alliance is a shoe-in for the top two in the first round of the presidential elections and will either make up the majority orf the government or opposition in the Grand National Assembly.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (AKP)
Since Erdogan has been in power for so long with increasingly less limitations, there’s not much to say about what he’ll do differently; however, he has escalated expansionist and anti-Kurdish rhetoric in recent months in a rally ‘round the flag effort.
Justice and Development Party/AKP (right-wing; right-wing populism)
As Erdogan’s personality cult/political machine, what can be said about the Turkish president can generally be said about the AKP.
Nationalist Action Party/MHP (far-right; ultranationalism)
The MHP is a Turkish nationalist party that has been described as neo-fascist and linked to political violence. Originally a Kemalist party, it has made overtures to Islamism, and later, Erdoganism to remain in power.
Nation Alliance/MİLLET (center-left to center-right)The Nation Alliance is an anti-Erdogan bloc made up of six different parties which propose returning to the parliamentary system, reversing democratic backsliding, gaining EU membership, and protecting fundamental freedoms with a new constitution. The two major parties, the CHP and İYİ, support (a less strict form of) Kemalism.
Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu (CHP)
Kemal Kilicdaroglu, with the leaders of the five other parties and the popular mayors of Istanbul and Ankara as his vice presidents, is Erdogan’s main opposition. Kılıçdaroğlu has been described as the Turkish Gandhi, with a peaceful and formal disposition directly opposite to Erdogan. His selection was controversial because he is performing relatively poorly in the polls compared to the aforementioned mayors.
Republican People’s Party/CHP (center-left; social democracy)
The CHP is a social democratic and Kemalist party, although it seems to have moved towards a less harsh form of secularism to widen its appeal and has negotiated with Kurdish political leaders in the elections.
Good Party/İYİ (center-right; moderate conservatism)
The İYİ is running as a civic (not ethnic or religious) nationalist and more liberal alternative to the AKP/MHP bloc. It has emphasized women’s rights under Meral Akşener’s leadership.
Labor and Freedom Alliance (left-wing to far-left)The Labor and Freedom Alliance is broadly progressive and anticapitalist. Although its largest member is the Kurdish-supported Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP), the Turkish government banned the party after accusing it of being a terrorist organization tied to the Kurdish Workers’ Party, or PKK. Labor and Freedom will not run a candidate, and both the YSP and TİP have endorsed Kilicdaroglu’s presidential campaign.
Green Left Party/YSP (left-wing; democratic socialism; factions: Kurdish interests, social democracy, Communism)
Technically a normal green party, the entire alliance (save for the Workers’ Party of Turkey, or TİP) parties are running their lists under the YSP due to the HDP’s ban, so it’s the largest left-wing party in the elections. It supports minority rights and democratization.
Ancestral Alliance/ATA Alliance (right-wing to far-right)Planned as an alliance between parties opposing both Erdogan and Kilicdaroglu, the Homeland Party launched its own campaign instead, and other members backed out before a presidential candidate was named. Since the ZP is too small to include in the poll, but Ogan is at least a candidate, the poll option will be considered a vote for both.
Sinan Oğan (independent)
A former MHP member, he was expelled thrice and claims the party has tried to assassinate him for criticizing its leadership. I can’t find much else about him in English media.
Victory Party/ZP (far-right; ultranationalism, Kemalism)
The ZP is politically adjacent to the MHP, but it is against Islamism, presidentialism, and Erdogan’s rejection of Kemalism. The party also opposes immigration and believes Erdogan has been too soft on Kurds.
The Homeland Party’s campaignThe Homeland Party, breaking away from negotiations with the Victory Party to field their own candidate, is running a presidential and parliamentary campaign by itself. Its founder Muharrem Ince is running in the first round, but if there is a second round, it has endorsed Kilicdaroglu in a match-up against Erdogan
Muharrem İnce (MP)
Ince is a former CHP member who tried to unseat Kilicdaroglu as leader twice and lost the 2018 presidential elections to Erdogan in the first round. A better orator than Kilicdaroglu, Ince says he has a better chance of winning over the AKP’s base.
Homeland Party/MP (center/syncretic; Kemalism)
The Homeland Party claims to be an ideologically pure Kemalist party, describing itself as neither right nor left, but following Atatürk. It has criticized the CHP’s cooperation with minor parties and alleged straying from Kemalism.
There is also a far-left alliance called the Union of Socialist Forces, but they lack any seats, and I cannot find any polling data or presidential endorsements from them.
And that’s all of them, at least the ones that will fit on a poll. Here’s the obligatory so, what do you all think? Opinions on who should win and predictions on who will? Is this election a pivotal point in global politics or is the media attention the equivalent of rubbernecking at a car crash?
Incidentally, Turkey turns 100 years old this year, making Erdogan one-fifth of the republic’s history. More importantly, Turkey is both a significant regional power and a sort of middle ground between Europe and the Middle East. Since the candidates have very different visions for Turkey’s future political system and foreign policy doctrine, along with the general context of democratic backsliding worldwide, I think this will be an election worth watching. Lastly, feel free to correct anything I got wrong in the OP. I’m also pretty sleepy, so apologies if some of this doesn’t make sense.
by Southland » Mon May 29, 2023 11:28 pm
this thread has nothing to do with President Trump.
Disserbia wrote:swaziland on acid and jesus
Ealdracaland wrote:I get a weird vibe from the sun on the flag. It feels like it's looking at me with malicious intent.
Verkhoyanska wrote:Condemn for having that creepy looking sun in your flag. IT'S STARING INTO MY SOUL.
Reloviskistan wrote:Unrelated: AN's flag looks like a mural on the wall of a Mexican restaurant
Valehart wrote:That flag's face is high on something that's illegal in most countries
Spiritkin Village wrote:Banned for you constantly implying you got all this lore, yet have no factbooks. Like at this point it is just a tease.
by Vistulange » Mon May 29, 2023 11:31 pm
El Lazaro wrote:he hasn’t hinted at a change of course yet.
by Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon May 29, 2023 11:39 pm
by -Astoria- » Tue May 30, 2023 12:04 am
Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Just think of the really massive palace Erdogan will build now.
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by Risottia » Tue May 30, 2023 11:40 pm
Bahrimontagn wrote:Turkey contributes more to NATO than a lot of European countries so good luck with that.
Asking Turkey to let Sweden in, which harbours PKK activists, is a bit like asking the US to allow the Taliban into NATO right after 9/11.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:59 am
by Perikuresu » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:04 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan is coming to Turkey to attend the swearing-in ceremony of the so-called President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Putin and his puppets are at work again.
by El Lazaro » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:18 am
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