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Postby The Dodo Republic » Mon May 22, 2023 12:42 pm

Before we start cheering too much. Is there any more news on the Belgorad situation? Is the raid still going on as we speak? Do the Russians have a handle on the situation? I imagine they don’t
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 12:45 pm

The Dodo Republic wrote:Before we start cheering too much. Is there any more news on the Belgorad situation? Is the raid still going on as we speak? Do the Russians have a handle on the situation? I imagine they don’t


Based on what I have read, Russia is still in panic mode. They're evacuating civilians from the region, which suggests the war party that attacked them is massive.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 22, 2023 12:46 pm

The Dodo Republic wrote:Before we start cheering too much. Is there any more news on the Belgorad situation? Is the raid still going on as we speak? Do the Russians have a handle on the situation? I imagine they don’t


I'm seeing video of the militia members slapping pro ukraine stickers on a line of Russian vehicles left abandoned with basically the keys still in them.

The base has fallen and they have full reign of it currently to do as they please. Considering the locals dropped everything apparently and fled, I'm seriously doubting they actually evacuated anything from that base before fleeing considering what was left behind.
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 12:47 pm

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The Dodo Republic wrote:Before we start cheering too much. Is there any more news on the Belgorad situation? Is the raid still going on as we speak? Do the Russians have a handle on the situation? I imagine they don’t


I'm seeing video of the militia members slapping pro ukraine stickers on a line of Russian vehicles left abandoned with basically the keys still in them.

The base has fallen and they have full reign of it currently to do as they please.


Oh my God, they took the base?
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Mon May 22, 2023 12:48 pm

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 22, 2023 12:48 pm

Bradfordville wrote:
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I'm seeing video of the militia members slapping pro ukraine stickers on a line of Russian vehicles left abandoned with basically the keys still in them.

The base has fallen and they have full reign of it currently to do as they please.


Oh my God, they took the base?


While not officially confirmed... I'm literally watching a clip of a guy sticking pro ukraine stickers on Z markers on a line of Russian Vehicles allegedly in a motor pool inside the base. Take that how you see fit......
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Postby Dakran » Mon May 22, 2023 12:50 pm

...How much you think they'd be willing to sell a captured BMP to a private citizen for? I'm always in the market for a new dumb thing to own.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 22, 2023 12:56 pm

Dakran wrote:...How much you think they'd be willing to sell a captured BMP to a private citizen for? I'm always in the market for a new dumb thing to own.


Dunno, but I remember a Wired article from a few years ago that had a T72 listed for.. I think $50k US.

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Postby Hidrandia » Mon May 22, 2023 12:56 pm

Dakran wrote:...How much you think they'd be willing to sell a captured BMP to a private citizen for? I'm always in the market for a new dumb thing to own.


Thats assuming that they have BMP's left in Storage.
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Postby Mestovakia » Mon May 22, 2023 1:03 pm

Holy cow. I'm actually lost for words on how to describe this.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon May 22, 2023 1:14 pm

The push into Grajvoron reveals another total miscalculation on Russia's part. A significant aspect of their casus belli was that ethnic Russians were at risk and the long border presented a dire security threat.

But Ukrainian military action on internationally-recognised Russian soil would've been unthinkable in say 2021, much less 2012, even to the most genuinely ultra-nationalist elements in Ukraine.

That particular problem always seemed to be one that was entirely of Russia's own making.
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Postby South Africa3 » Mon May 22, 2023 1:19 pm

Jesus Christ, this fucking timeline. I still remember when a Ukrainian counter-invasion into actual Russian territory was considered a pipe dream at best.
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Postby Utquiagvik » Mon May 22, 2023 1:21 pm

South Africa3 wrote:Jesus Christ, this fucking timeline. I still remember when a Ukrainian counter-invasion into actual Russian territory was considered a pipe dream at best.

I know, this shit is crazy. Never thought I would see anything like this happening.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 22, 2023 1:23 pm

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South Africa3 wrote:Jesus Christ, this fucking timeline. I still remember when a Ukrainian counter-invasion into actual Russian territory was considered a pipe dream at best.

I know, this shit is crazy. Never thought I would see anything like this happening.


Never though I'd be saying this.. But I sincerely hope that Putin actually did evacuate the tactical weapons from that depot before it fell. Last thing we need is a rogue element getting their hands on even one device and turning it into a dirty bomb inside the Moscow Metro and possibly triggering Dead Hand.

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Postby Mestovakia » Mon May 22, 2023 1:25 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:I know, this shit is crazy. Never thought I would see anything like this happening.


Never though I'd be saying this.. But I sincerely hope that Putin actually did evacuate the tactical weapons from that depot before it fell. Last thing we need is a rogue element getting their hands on even one device and turning it into a dirty bomb inside the Moscow Metro and possibly triggering Dead Hand.


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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 1:29 pm

Mestovakia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Never though I'd be saying this.. But I sincerely hope that Putin actually did evacuate the tactical weapons from that depot before it fell. Last thing we need is a rogue element getting their hands on even one device and turning it into a dirty bomb inside the Moscow Metro and possibly triggering Dead Hand.


I never thought IRL would turn into a Tom Clancy novel.


The last few seasons of IRL have been absolutely unbelievable. From the president of the United States urging his fans to assault his vice president and break into the capitol, to Americans shrugging in the face of a deadly pandemic killing hundreds of thousands, to this, I gotta question where the writers have been going with the latest installments. Seems they really overestimated how much the audience was willing to suspend disbelief.
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Postby Rary » Mon May 22, 2023 1:31 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Utquiagvik wrote:I know, this shit is crazy. Never thought I would see anything like this happening.


Never though I'd be saying this.. But I sincerely hope that Putin actually did evacuate the tactical weapons from that depot before it fell. Last thing we need is a rogue element getting their hands on even one device and turning it into a dirty bomb inside the Moscow Metro and possibly triggering Dead Hand.

Considering that they didn’t have time to evacuate equipment, there’s a good chance that the weapons are still in the base.

As you said, the last thing we want is an anti Putin militia smuggling a nuke into Moscow. That’s a sure fire way of getting Ukraine glassed.

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Postby Mestovakia » Mon May 22, 2023 1:33 pm

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I never thought IRL would turn into a Tom Clancy novel.


The last few seasons of IRL have been absolutely unbelievable. From the president of the United States urging his fans to assault his vice president and break into the capitol, to Americans shrugging in the face of a deadly pandemic killing hundreds of thousands, to this, I gotta question where the writers have been going with the latest installments. Seems they really overestimated how much the audience was willing to suspend disbelief.


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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon May 22, 2023 1:33 pm

Rary wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Never though I'd be saying this.. But I sincerely hope that Putin actually did evacuate the tactical weapons from that depot before it fell. Last thing we need is a rogue element getting their hands on even one device and turning it into a dirty bomb inside the Moscow Metro and possibly triggering Dead Hand.

Considering that they didn’t have time to evacuate equipment, there’s a good chance that the weapons are still in the base.

As you said, the last thing we want is an anti Putin militia smuggling a nuke into Moscow. That’s a sure fire way of getting Ukraine glassed.


Buddy, nobody cares if Ukraine gets glassed outside Ukraine. And if it wasn't for Dead Hand, I wouldn't give two shits if Moscow got glassed either as they deserve it.

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 1:36 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Rary wrote:Considering that they didn’t have time to evacuate equipment, there’s a good chance that the weapons are still in the base.

As you said, the last thing we want is an anti Putin militia smuggling a nuke into Moscow. That’s a sure fire way of getting Ukraine glassed.


Buddy, nobody cares if Ukraine gets glassed outside Ukraine. And if it wasn't for Dead Hand, I wouldn't give two shits if Moscow got glassed either as they deserve it.


I mean I care insofar as millions would die and the taboo over using nukes post-WWII would be shattered. But yeah, people care way more when the threat is "everyone dies" instead of "Ukrainians and Russians die."
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Postby Adamede » Mon May 22, 2023 1:36 pm

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Picairn wrote:Sorry no, peace isn't attainable until Putin stops insisting on keeping his ill-gotten gains.


Your position advocates for indefinite, endless war. Ill-gotten or not, the notion that Russia must give up everything(which they won’t) means this conflict will go on for years. Perhaps a decade or more. Hundreds of thousands will die. It’s as if mankind is addicted to war. As soon as one ends, people justify another, and another, and another. Our species is not well. I wish us to be more bonobo, less chimp, if you will. Peace must always be option, it is the most precious thing on the planet.

You don’t give a shit about peace, you just want Russia to win.

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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon May 22, 2023 1:38 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:Buddy, nobody cares if Ukraine gets glassed outside Ukraine.

I distinctly do care depending on the direction of the wind.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:And if it wasn't for Dead Hand, I wouldn't give two shits if Moscow got glassed either as they deserve it.

Anyone who's seen the excellent film Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol knows that blowing up the Kremlin won't result in much aside from, well, destroying the Kremlin.
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Postby Adamede » Mon May 22, 2023 1:40 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Oh my God, they took the base?


While not officially confirmed... I'm literally watching a clip of a guy sticking pro ukraine stickers on Z markers on a line of Russian Vehicles allegedly in a motor pool inside the base. Take that how you see fit......

Got a link?

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon May 22, 2023 1:40 pm

I think with how quickly things are escalating, it's time for a peace deal. Russia gives Ukraine all of its land back, and in return the moscow metro doesn't wind up being dirty bombed. I fully support a peace deal in which Russia keeps 100% Russian clay...0% of which is found within the pre-2014 borders of Ukraine.
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Postby Rary » Mon May 22, 2023 1:40 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Rary wrote:Considering that they didn’t have time to evacuate equipment, there’s a good chance that the weapons are still in the base.

As you said, the last thing we want is an anti Putin militia smuggling a nuke into Moscow. That’s a sure fire way of getting Ukraine glassed.


Buddy, nobody cares if Ukraine gets glassed outside Ukraine.

What?
And if it wasn't for Dead Hand, I wouldn't give two shits if Moscow got glassed either as they deserve it.

There’s much better and less destructive ways for justice to be delivered.

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