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Grinning Dragon
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Anarchy

Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri May 05, 2023 10:38 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:He's an Authoritarian hell-bent on world domination who wants to make the entire world an Extreme Far Right Distopia.

I don't want world domination, I want to be under the control of domination

Does this include wearing a leather onsie with hood and a ball gag, with a side of cat o nine tails and fluffy cuffs?
Oh, never mind I thought you said dominatrix.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri May 05, 2023 10:40 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't want world domination, I want to be under the control of domination

Does this include wearing a leather onsie with hood and a ball gag, with a side of cat o nine tails and fluffy cuffs?
Oh, never mind I thought you said dominatrix.

Leather onesie, I don't care, hood, sure, fluffy cuffs, yes, the other crap is a definite not. No one should be physically harmed.

And no, I'm not taking about sex.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri May 05, 2023 10:40 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Simping for Hitler isn't meaningfully better then being him.

I don't condone any of the atrocities Hitler did.

No. You just want a system exactly like his, that won't do bad things because you say it won't.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri May 05, 2023 10:41 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't condone any of the atrocities Hitler did.

No. You just want a system exactly like his, that won't do bad things because you say it won't.

I just want an auth society where everyone is treated equally and no one is physically harmed.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri May 05, 2023 10:41 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:No. You just want a system exactly like his, that won't do bad things because you say it won't.

I just want an auth society where everyone is treated equally and no one is physically harmed.

Can't exist.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri May 05, 2023 10:42 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I just want an auth society where everyone is treated equally and no one is physically harmed.

Can't exist.

Neither can anarchy.

I just want something as close to it as can be.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri May 05, 2023 10:44 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Can't exist.

Neither can anarchy.

I'm not an anarchist, I don't care.

I just want something as close to it as can be.

Everything "close to it" is a dystopian hellhole.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Fri May 05, 2023 10:47 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:He's an Authoritarian hell-bent on world domination who wants to make the entire world an Extreme Far Right Distopia.

I don't want world domination, I want to be under the control of domination


Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri May 05, 2023 10:49 pm

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't want world domination, I want to be under the control of domination


Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something

I don't want to be the leader. I don't want to have the power. If want to be the loyal subject of the government.

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Postby Floofybit » Fri May 05, 2023 10:50 pm

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't want world domination, I want to be under the control of domination


Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.

Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Fri May 05, 2023 11:03 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.

Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.

So you acknowledge humans need sexual freedom ?

edit: Floofy you do realize you essentially want a non sexual sub dom relationship with your govt effectively right?
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Postby Sarkington » Fri May 05, 2023 11:32 pm

You have all the personal freedom when you're the last person on earth, but you have no-one to help when you need it. On the other hand, if you're not allowed to do things because theyre unsafe you have basically no learning opportunities.

So as usual, theres a golden middle(or gray area) where we're protected from the worst excesses of both. I find myself sticking to this gray area, though I do stretch or shrink it from time to time and depending on the moral justifications of an issue, I might move within the gray area or move it entirely.

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Postby Necroghastia » Sat May 06, 2023 12:15 am

Floofybit wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:No. You just want a system exactly like his, that won't do bad things because you say it won't.

I just want an auth society where everyone is treated equally and no one is physically harmed.

>auth society
>everyone is treated equally and no one is physically harmed
literally mutually exclusive
especially the physically harmed part like what the fuck do you think is gonna happen when someone breaks some useless law in your imaginary society
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Postby Gandful Union » Sat May 06, 2023 12:29 am

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.

Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.


Limited? Limited how?

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Postby Kernen » Sat May 06, 2023 4:50 am

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.

Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.

No it shouldn't.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Sat May 06, 2023 4:53 am

True safety comes from a free and accountable government that is responsive to the democratic will, so freedom is certainly more important. No one is safe under a tyrannical dictatorship or police state, and despots throughout history have proven that they do not care for the wellbeing or safety of their citizens if they happen to be opponents of their arbitrary regime. It has been stated many times, but as Benjamin Franklin said, those who would sacrifice their freedom in the name of security deserve neither, and this is one of the few things I agree with him on.
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Postby Vrbo » Sat May 06, 2023 6:20 am

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something

I don't want to be the leader. I don't want to have the power. I want to be the loyal subject of the government.

Yeah I want to be a slave to the chains that bind me too.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat May 06, 2023 6:28 am

Vrbo wrote:
Floofybit wrote:I don't want to be the leader. I don't want to have the power. I want to be the loyal subject of the government.

Yeah I want to be a slave to the chains that bind me too.

It's also not really a life if one is living it on their knees like a borg drone.
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Postby Vrbo » Sat May 06, 2023 6:30 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Vrbo wrote:Yeah I want to be a slave to the chains that bind me too.

It's also not really a life if one is living it on their knees like a borg drone.

I live my life as the state would like to live my life is kind of the rhetoric I'm hearing here from Floofy.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Sat May 06, 2023 6:50 am

Vrbo wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:It's also not really a life if one is living it on their knees like a borg drone.

I live my life as the state would like to live my life is kind of the rhetoric I'm hearing here from Floofy.

Once again this being a kink thing makes so much more sense

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Postby Arval Va » Sat May 06, 2023 7:26 am

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofy wtf how is that supposed to be read in a non sexual context? Holy shit you need thearpy or something
edit: Dear god your additional comments are not helping . Let me guess you want sex to be purely for reproduction i bet we can even remove sexual contact and have folks go to a facility where its all artifically done like we do for race horses.

Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.

Impractical and won't accomplish anything. Like the porn ban. And the rock climbing ban. And the alcohol ban. And the public knife ban.
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Postby Floofybit » Sat May 06, 2023 8:58 am

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Sexual activities should not be completely for making kids. They should not be artificially bred. However, sex should be limited.

So you acknowledge humans need sexual freedom ?

edit: Floofy you do realize you essentially want a non sexual sub dom relationship with your govt effectively right?

1. Some. It should be an occasional reward however.

2. Yes.

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Postby Techocracy101010 » Sat May 06, 2023 9:24 am

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:So you acknowledge humans need sexual freedom ?

edit: Floofy you do realize you essentially want a non sexual sub dom relationship with your govt effectively right?

1. Some. It should be an occasional reward however.

2. Yes.


so is this just a lifestyle kink thing?

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Postby Floofybit » Sat May 06, 2023 9:31 am

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Floofybit wrote:1. Some. It should be an occasional reward however.

2. Yes.


so is this just a lifestyle kink thing?

No?

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Postby Kernen » Sat May 06, 2023 4:19 pm

Floofybit wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:
so is this just a lifestyle kink thing?

No?

Could have fooled us.
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