American Politics: The Speaker's Cornered

[Neutraligon]

I mean...sorta. They are very important, but there are a ton of other important commandments in the torah.

616 commandments or something like that, apparently quite permanent, according to several passages inside the Torah itself.

613. The first of which is to be fruitful and multiply. Humanity seems to have done a very good job of that.

[Late Roman Empire]

616 commandments or something like that, apparently quite permanent, according to several passages inside the Torah itself.

613. The first of which is to be fruitful and multiply. Humanity seems to have done a very good job of that.

A bit overzealous in that, in fact.

[Neutraligon]

613. The first of which is to be fruitful and multiply. Humanity seems to have done a very good job of that.

A bit overzealous in that, in fact.

Is it weird that I remember when we reached 6 billion...and we are now close to 8 billion. In a few decades we have increased nearly 2 billion people.

[Late Roman Empire]

A bit overzealous in that, in fact.

Is it weird that I remember when we reached 6 billion...and we are now close to 8 billion. In a few decades we have increased nearly 2 billion people.

It's frightening, especially when you consider that with that kind of manpower, we could replant a lot of trees to counter the damage, but very little progress has been made there. That was Jane Goodall's push in particular and I like the basic idea of it, especially if it could be a handy jobs program at that. Bring back the CCC!

[HISPIDA]

A bit overzealous in that, in fact.

Is it weird that I remember when we reached 6 billion...and we are now close to 8 billion. In a few decades we have increased nearly 2 billion people.

you know what's weirder? we're probably gonna stay here for a while. it's generally accepted that the human population will plateau at around 9-12 billion.

[Fractalnavel]

Curious: Is there anything preventing the posting of materials similar to the ten commandments from other religions (and perhaps non-religious displays of similar intent and import), with equivalent form and prominence? That could actually make a pretty neat display of the scope of human religion / ethics / values from many cultures, while still fulfilling court requirements.

[Cannot think of a name]

Curious: Is there anything preventing the posting of materials similar to the ten commandments from other religions (and perhaps non-religious displays of similar intent and import), with equivalent form and prominence? That could actually make a pretty neat display of the scope of human religion / ethics / values from many cultures, while still fulfilling court requirements.

It'd be one way to culture jam the law. If they objected they'd have to say why the Ten Commandments were okay but the Five Pillars of Islam isn't. At that point it becomes a bit awkward trying to play "I'm not toooouuuuuching you" with the whole game of pretending the Ten Commandments isn't promoting Christianity.

[Braza Wain]

Curious: Is there anything preventing the posting of materials similar to the ten commandments from other religions (and perhaps non-religious displays of similar intent and import), with equivalent form and prominence? That could actually make a pretty neat display of the scope of human religion / ethics / values from many cultures, while still fulfilling court requirements.

It'd be one way to culture jam the law. If they objected they'd have to say why the Ten Commandments were okay but the Five Pillars of Islam isn't. At that point it becomes a bit awkward trying to play "I'm not toooouuuuuching you" with the whole game of pretending the Ten Commandments isn't promoting Christianity.

I’m pretty sure this contradiction has been exploited in the past. At one time one of the Satanist churches was pretty adept at causing havoc with those sorts of laws. I also recommend the Yes Men for similar such content. Of course in recent years the courts have been making much more right-wing activist rulings so I guess it’s impossible to predict how something like that would go. You have to hope there’s some kind of backstop against the exploitation of the legal system the right-wing has been undertaking.

[Cannot think of a name]

It'd be one way to culture jam the law. If they objected they'd have to say why the Ten Commandments were okay but the Five Pillars of Islam isn't. At that point it becomes a bit awkward trying to play "I'm not toooouuuuuching you" with the whole game of pretending the Ten Commandments isn't promoting Christianity.

I’m pretty sure this contradiction has been exploited in the past. At one time one of the Satanist churches was pretty adept at causing havoc with those sorts of laws. I also recommend the Yes Men for similar such content. Of course in recent years the courts have been making much more right-wing activist rulings so I guess it’s impossible to predict how something like that would go. You have to hope there’s some kind of backstop against the exploitation of the legal system the right-wing has been undertaking.

The Yes Men pitching slavery at a business convention was pretty classic.

That's what was behind my enthusiasm for doing it, plus it manages to turn a bullshit edict into something schools should be doing, educating. Kids would benefit from knowing the basic tenants of the various religions around the world. The Three Tenets of Hinduism, Buddhists Four Noble Truths,...apparently Shinto doesn't do pithy lists. Or I couldn't find one. I'm sure whatever native people that use to live where the school is now would love to have the core of their beliefs on the wall as well.

[Neutraligon]

Curious: Is there anything preventing the posting of materials similar to the ten commandments from other religions (and perhaps non-religious displays of similar intent and import), with equivalent form and prominence? That could actually make a pretty neat display of the scope of human religion / ethics / values from many cultures, while still fulfilling court requirements.

It'd be one way to culture jam the law. If they objected they'd have to say why the Ten Commandments were okay but the Five Pillars of Islam isn't. At that point it becomes a bit awkward trying to play "I'm not toooouuuuuching you" with the whole game of pretending the Ten Commandments isn't promoting Christianity.

Put up the 7 tenants of satanism. Would love to see the reaction to that.

[Fractalnavel]

It'd be one way to culture jam the law. If they objected they'd have to say why the Ten Commandments were okay but the Five Pillars of Islam isn't. At that point it becomes a bit awkward trying to play "I'm not toooouuuuuching you" with the whole game of pretending the Ten Commandments isn't promoting Christianity.

Put up the 7 tenants of satanism. Would love to see the reaction to that.

That could be entertaining, but ultimately self-defeating. It's probably difficult to argue that such a thing is equivalent to more "positive" philosophies and would end up undermining the project. But various pagan things, and whatever the proper term is for what has been known as 'witchcraft' etc., sure.

Side note: allow me to be "that guy" for a moment, since it was done twice in recent posts here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ence-usage.

[Cannot think of a name]

Put up the 7 tenants of satanism. Would love to see the reaction to that.

That could be entertaining, but ultimately self-defeating. It's probably difficult to argue that such a thing is equivalent to more "positive" philosophies and would end up undermining the project. But various pagan things, and whatever the proper term is for what has been known as 'witchcraft' etc., sure.

Side note: allow me to be "that guy" for a moment, since it was done twice in recent posts here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ence-usage.

For fun, I spelled it right when I was googling them. I type fairly fast and sometimes the fingers get to pick when it comes to homonyms.

[Fractalnavel]

[...]
Side note: allow me to be "that guy" for a moment, since it was done twice in recent posts here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ence-usage.

For fun, I spelled it right when I was googling them. I type fairly fast and sometimes the fingers get to pick when it comes to homonyms.

I do there-their-they're and its-it's all the time. Type of dyslexia, maybe? I'm a hunt-&-peck typer, and my eyes must be watching my fingers do it, and still it happens.

[Thermodolia]

I’m not sure if the 10 commandments play a big role in Islam or not but they do play a major role in both Christianity or Judaism and that alone is enough to rule it legal as like you said they can’t say for certain which religion it’s promoting

I mean...sorta. They are very important, but there are a ton of other important commandments in the torah.

Ya but the 10 serve as the basis of the other 610 commandments. I don’t think any school in Texas is gonna put up all the commandments. Think of the cost! I mean have you seen the price of stone these days?

[Fractalnavel]

I mean...sorta. They are very important, but there are a ton of other important commandments in the torah.

Ya but the 10 serve as the basis of the other 610 commandments. I don’t think any school in Texas is gonna put up all the commandments. Think of the cost! I mean have you seen the price of stone these days?

That's because of all the chiselers...

[Haganham]

Ya but the 10 serve as the basis of the other 610 commandments. I don’t think any school in Texas is gonna put up all the commandments. Think of the cost! I mean have you seen the price of stone these days?

That's because of all the chiselers...

The trades are dying...

[-Astoria-]

Biden confirms 2024 presidential run

US president Joe Biden has confirmed he is going to stand for re-election in 2024. The announcement has been made in a promotional video.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Biden confirms 2024 presidential run

US president Joe Biden has confirmed he is going to stand for re-election in 2024. The announcement has been made in a promotional video.

Seems like a foolish, and rather self-centred decision to me.

[San Lumen]

Biden confirms 2024 presidential run

US president Joe Biden has confirmed he is going to stand for re-election in 2024. The announcement has been made in a promotional video.

Seems like a foolish, and rather self-centred decision to me.

How is it either of those things?

[Umeria]

Seems like a foolish, and rather self-centred decision to me.

How is it either of those things?

He's holding the party back. Dems would do better in 24 with someone else.

[Ifreann]

Seems like a foolish, and rather self-centred decision to me.

How is it either of those things?

He ran in 2020 ostensibly to save America and the Republican Party from Trump. Well, he got Trump out of office, but Trumpism is still here. So what use does running again serve? None, except perhaps for Joe Biden to not go down in history as a one term president.

[Thermodolia]

How is it either of those things?

He's holding the party back. Dems would do better in 24 with someone else.

Current polling has Biden effectively winning all states he won in 2020 again with the added possibility of North Carolina and maybe Florida.

Doesn’t seem to be very holding back too me.

Interestingly the reason for his low approval rating is because of democrats themselves who only rate Biden around 60% compared to Obama and Trump who both got 80-90% of their party’s support.

Yet this lower approval rating hasn’t really hurt democrats all that much as democrats have won in spite of it which suggests that while people disagree with how Biden is running things they’d still rather have him and the democrats on office than republicans

And yes current polling done by the right wing Emerson college has Biden and Trump neck and neck in Florida with both at 44%, at the same time they have Biden winning Georgia by 1%. Another poll by Rasmussen around that time has Biden winning AZ by 2%

[San Lumen]

How is it either of those things?

He's holding the party back. Dems would do better in 24 with someone else.

Who do you suggest?

[Umeria]

He's holding the party back. Dems would do better in 24 with someone else.

Who do you suggest?

Limiting it to who Biden would approve of? Pick a decent governor. Whitmer, Newsom, etc. have appeal and communication skills.

[Thermodolia]

Who do you suggest?

Limiting it to who Biden would approve of? Pick a decent governor. Whitmer, Newsom, etc. have appeal and communication skills.

Again at the present moment polling suggests that Biden could very well win in Florida and will win in all states he won in 2020 plus North Carolina.

Why would you jump ship now when current polling has Biden beating Trump again and gaining states?

Also the only polling that suggests that Newsom might win is from 22 pre midterms and even then his poll numbers where about the same as Biden