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The North Polish Union
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Postby The North Polish Union » Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:56 pm

A somewhat encouraging development out of TNP, although lacking in many ways. I have long been an advocate of UCR players being given a say in feeder governments.

The primary regrettable aspect of this is that the UCRs involved chose to subscribe TNP to the incoherent ideology that goes by the name 'independence' although it has little to do with pursuing a genuine independence in any way.

One would hope that TNP alongside their masters in Europeia (in which delegate Hulldom is a citizen), 10000 Islands, The League, TGW (all mentioned in the LWU statement) etc would see the error of their ways and be willing to cooperate in such a way that TNP can be administered so as to benefit UCRs as a whole. The current reluctance to do so indicates a lack of care on the part of the abovementioned regions to administrate their colony in a way that hinders the feederite behemoth, an issue which I certainly hope will be shown to be to inattention rather than malevolence.

The False 'Independence' may be better than the neo-Francoism which the other feeders flaunt, but only marginally so. I encourage the UCR coalition operating TNP to reconsider their decision to put TNP down that path
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A puppet
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Postby A puppet » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:40 am

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I can confirm this.

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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:48 am

Terra Inferiori Reliquere wrote:What I personally find most funny is that there are no defenders in here making a fuss over the fact that LWU exposed their bs.


Hi, defender here. Half of us are busy shaking our heads at the idiocy of the cancer that is the neo-moralist sect of defenderdom, the other half can't see this post because they're too short-sighted to see past their own noses.
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Devious
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Postby Devious » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:17 am

Roavin wrote:
Terra Inferiori Reliquere wrote:What I personally find most funny is that there are no defenders in here making a fuss over the fact that LWU exposed their bs.


Hi, defender here. Half of us are busy shaking our heads at the idiocy of the cancer that is the neo-moralist sect of defenderdom, the other half can't see this post because they're too short-sighted to see past their own noses.

sorry roav, you're a moderate armchair rp fenda now and your opinions are irrelevant :(
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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:36 am

Devious wrote:sorry roav, you're a moderate armchair rp fenda now and your opinions are irrelevant :(


I'm well aware :p
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Honeydewistania
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Postby Honeydewistania » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:42 am

Pop champagne and raise a toast to the eternal Security Council circlejerk
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:16 am

Honeydewistania wrote:Pop champagne and raise a toast to the eternal Security Council circlejerk

most I'm willing to offer up to that is a Riesling that I already finished this afternoon

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Mlakhavia
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Postby Mlakhavia » Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:17 am

Ostrovskiy wrote:

Okay that is indicative of something odd. Will reserve further opinions until the truth comes out one way or the other

psst: u don't have to immediately act all pre-cautionary around the developments that make (certain) defenders look bad despite it being incredibly obvious what happened
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All Wild Things
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Postby All Wild Things » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:21 pm

2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.
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Hulldom
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Postby Hulldom » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:34 pm

All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.
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Improper Classifications
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Postby Improper Classifications » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:39 pm

This is certainly one of the events of all time.
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All Wild Things
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Postby All Wild Things » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:47 pm

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.

Thanks for sharing that.
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Vando0sa
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Postby Vando0sa » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:55 pm

So.. can I be delegate of TNP.. I'll make TNP great again!
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Unibot III
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:55 pm

EDIT: An interesting statement from Hulldom, I’m just catching up on the drama. Was it made clear to TNP that support for “Commend Madjack” and others was conditional on a NAY vote? Or was this assumed?

I don’t like the idea of allies making ultimatums to each other over commendations etc.

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Jar Wattinree
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:56 pm

Vando0sa wrote:So.. can I be delegate of TNP.. I'll make TNP great again!

Using raiding to end raiding?
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Vando0sa
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Postby Vando0sa » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:04 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Vando0sa wrote:So.. can I be delegate of TNP.. I'll make TNP great again!

Using raiding to end raiding?


Would be neat to see the largest region ever using an Alstroemerian flag made by our best flag maker Ujang.
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Mlakhavia
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Postby Mlakhavia » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:06 pm

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.

this is so funny. not a single apology for any actions taken, and instead a bunch of 'advice' that effectively amounts to "the *real* villains are the raiders, and if the people who blackmailed us say sorry really nicely we can go back to brunch". resigning was a great idea -- but of course, the sentiment expressed has to be as weak-willed as your administration was.
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/ Independent of the Year 2023 / Air Marshal of the People's Revolutionary Air Force / Terror of Trinidad /

Perfidious trickster beloved by all*, legitimate Delegate of Warzone Trinidad, &c. 'Tyrant', 'unhinged', 'Misley 2', 'fucking annoying', 'a genuinely terrible person'
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[nota] — «you embody the spirit of what i enjoy in raiding»
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Eternal Algerstonia
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Postby Eternal Algerstonia » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:14 pm

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.

you resigned over a statement you didn't read a single word of?

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New Astri
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Postby New Astri » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:21 pm

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.


"TNP cannot operate on its own anymore" i believe this is what's traditionally called "being a lapdog." legitimately incredible, you gave up your region's WA sovereignty to defenders and then went on some tangential ramble about how raiders suck and you should remain besties with the regions treating tnp like a puppet state (after, of course, they issue a surface level apology so the lapdogging can be kept more private next time)
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Dawn Denac
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Postby Dawn Denac » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:41 pm

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.


Somehow, raiders bad?

???

I'll take the evil role but we didn't even do anything this time.
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The Universe World
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Postby The Universe World » Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:53 pm

:eyebrow: TNP becoming a lapdog is hilarious and also stupid. If I was del I’d gladly sacrifice two proposals in exchange for maintaining my region’s sovereignty and not selling us out to a coalition of power-hungry fendas in their mission to further destabilize the already remarkably horrible SC. I respect Hulldom on an OOC level, but IC he has no backbone and the incoming administration of Gorundu MUST correct Hulldom’s mistakes. I do not suggest TNP side with raiderdom, but I do suggest them asserting their sovereignty and becoming a true indie instead of being a lapdog. Give them an inch today and the next day there will be a mile-long inroad with dozens of demands that directly contradict TNP’s interests and desires. TNP can easily finesse this if they try. Hulldom backed down, Gorundu cannot.
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WayNeacTia
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Postby WayNeacTia » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:02 pm

Honeydewistania wrote:Pop champagne and raise a toast to the eternal Security Council circlejerk

Let’s just pop a bottle of Nestle water and call it a day…

Hulldom wrote:
All Wild Things wrote:2 hours ago: Hulldom relocated from The North Pacific to The Pacific.
2 hours ago: Hulldom resigned from the World Assembly.
2 hours ago: Hulldom updated the World Factbook entry in The North Pacific.

Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.

I do love that in the end this is somehow raiders fault, lol! You should have stayed on as Delegate as you are the perfect person to lead TNP in its glorious “Neo-defenderism” (as Roav coined it) crusade.
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RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac

wait

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The Universe World
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Postby The Universe World » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:12 pm

WayNeacTia wrote:
Honeydewistania wrote:Pop champagne and raise a toast to the eternal Security Council circlejerk

Let’s just pop a bottle of Nestle water and call it a day…

Hulldom wrote:Correct. You'd like to know more, read this.

I do love that in the end this is somehow raiders fault, lol! You should have stayed on as Delegate as you are the perfect person to lead TNP in its glorious “Neo-defenderism” (as Roav coined it) crusade.

If he didn’t say it was raiders’ fault TNP would anger the mighty SC fenda overlords!
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WayNeacTia wrote:Why admit to to something, when you can just deny it and release a word salad composed solely of bullshit?

God bless you all, may the Lord be with you all, and let the Lord be with you all.

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The North Polish Union
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Postby The North Polish Union » Sat Apr 08, 2023 2:31 pm

"Feeder delegate resigns in disgrace and runs off to the NPO" is the oldest script on the book. Get new material

Congratulations to Jo et al for authoring an FA statement so effective that it caused someone to resign without even reading it
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Terra Inferiori Reliquere
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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:04 pm

Well that was quite the read wasn’t it? I wonder who proofread that wall of text… XD
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