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by Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:25 am
by Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:27 am
Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:Trump is apparently supposed to be arraigned on Tuesday, at around 2:15pm EST.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 11934.html
by Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:31 am
Incelastan wrote:Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:Trump is apparently supposed to be arraigned on Tuesday, at around 2:15pm EST.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 11934.html
That should be....interesting. I overheard someone yesterday say, "Who am I supposed to vote for now?" I couldn't help but think....not a Republican? But that's probably a stretch with her, as with a lot of neighbors.
by Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:32 am
Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:Incelastan wrote:
That should be....interesting. I overheard someone yesterday say, "Who am I supposed to vote for now?" I couldn't help but think....not a Republican? But that's probably a stretch with her, as with a lot of neighbors.
Pretty sure Trump will still be able to run as president if he goes to jail, so if he somehow makes it to the polls while serving time, she can still vote for him.
by The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:33 am
by Mexicoa » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:35 am
Incelastan wrote:Ifreann wrote:You obviously think that it's women who can't be trusted because you feel the need to make secret recordings when you are alone with women. If this was simple paranoia then you would record your private interactions with everyone, regardless of gender, regardless of whether you're at work or not.
If there was a rash of accusations of male-on-male harassment, that would be a reasonable conclusion on your part. As there isn't such, I'll take your assumptions with the mountain of salt that they deserve. It's neither misogyny nor paranoia. It's realism mixed with cynicism and pessimism. Justified cynicism and pessimism, I might add.
Also, what if I was the one sexually harassed? Hypothetical, but possible. Shouldn't I have the means to pursue my case, the evidence to strengthen it? The very fact that I do not fear what a recording might reveal, in any case, shows that I have nothing to hide myself.
As for outside of work, the odds are that I'm already in a public place unless I'm at home. There would be plenty of witnesses.
by Saiwana » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:37 am
by Senkaku » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:42 am
Incelastan wrote:a belief that due process has been greatly weakened by a variety of excesses produced by various misguided, presumably sincere corrections of the processes of handling certain kinds of legal cases.
by The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:46 am
Saiwana wrote:Trump doing fuzzy math on his finances is something I can believe he'd do.
He does after all have some alleged well established track record for not paying people who rendered services to him and borrows but finds ways to leave lenders holding the bag (it is why all major American banks have banned or won't lend to him), but also not paying the normal taxes because he claims so many losses? It is probably likelier that he did embezzle on some level if his greed and grift seeking is like Eddy's from Ed, Edd, n Eddy?
Why do people suppose it has caught up to him now finally if he had no consequences for so long?
by Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:48 am
by Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:59 am
Senkaku wrote:Incelastan wrote:a belief that due process has been greatly weakened by a variety of excesses produced by various misguided, presumably sincere corrections of the processes of handling certain kinds of legal cases.
oh word? please elaborate for us, what “excesses” and ”corrections of the processes of handling” and which “certain kinds”?
by United States Reborn » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:02 am
by Senkaku » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:07 am
Incelastan wrote:Senkaku wrote:oh word? please elaborate for us, what “excesses” and ”corrections of the processes of handling” and which “certain kinds”?
Do I have to spell it out for you? The collapse of due process in harassment cases, especially on college, not to mention how subjective and shifting the definition has become. It needs to be a permanent, static, objective standard, not based upon the latest trends or one's personal butthurt feelings. It needs to be a clear, consistent standard that is immovable and undeniable, period. Objectivity is needed, not subjectivity. It needs to consist of pressure or coercion to perform favors or services or permit acts out of fear of retaliation or something of the sort. And the due process needs to remain effective.
In the meantime, I remain vindicated in my eternal cynicism and pessimism about society. Especially about its imminent collapse.
by Incelastan » Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:08 am
Senkaku wrote:Incelastan wrote:
Do I have to spell it out for you? The collapse of due process in harassment cases, especially on college, not to mention how subjective and shifting the definition has become. It needs to be a permanent, static, objective standard, not based upon the latest trends or one's personal butthurt feelings. It needs to be a clear, consistent standard that is immovable and undeniable, period. Objectivity is needed, not subjectivity. It needs to consist of pressure or coercion to perform favors or services or permit acts out of fear of retaliation or something of the sort. And the due process needs to remain effective.
In the meantime, I remain vindicated in my eternal cynicism and pessimism about society. Especially about its imminent collapse.
Is this some kind of artistic, "ceci n'est pas un incel"-type thing then
by The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:10 pm
Incelastan wrote:Senkaku wrote:oh word? please elaborate for us, what “excesses” and ”corrections of the processes of handling” and which “certain kinds”?
Do I have to spell it out for you? The collapse of due process in harassment cases, especially on college, not to mention how subjective and shifting the definition has become. It needs to be a permanent, static, objective standard, not based upon the latest trends or one's personal butthurt feelings. It needs to be a clear, consistent standard that is immovable and undeniable, period. Objectivity is needed, not subjectivity. It needs to consist of pressure or coercion to perform favors or services or permit acts out of fear of retaliation or something of the sort. And the due process needs to remain effective.
In the meantime, I remain vindicated in my eternal cynicism and pessimism about society. Especially about its imminent collapse.
by Saiwana » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:18 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Well; I have female friends and associates. Even went to one’s flat to clean up her network. She shut the door and even gave me a beer. Network cleaned and no harassment claims. MIght be I am ugly and yet I still don’t walk around in fear of women.
by El Lazaro » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:24 pm
Incelastan wrote:Senkaku wrote:Was part of this supposed to somehow be reassuring? If so you might need to clarify or expand on it a bit, because I’m doing the math on grandkids by 46 and it’s not really making me feel better per se
There's a lot of ways that could happen, but in my particular case, I married a woman six years older than me and she had a stepdaughter (also a stepson, who died in 2020), who in turn has daughters of her own. Not that it matters. My point is that I'm not an actual incel myself, certainly not some brat living in his mother's basement or whatever. It's in character for roleplay, dude.
by HISPIDA » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:26 pm
by The Jamesian Republic » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:27 pm
by Northern Seleucia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:29 pm
Senkaku wrote:Incelastan wrote:
Dude, this is a roleplaying nation. That is IC, as in...in character. I also have a nation called New Soviet Trans-Ohio, which is a Communist Rust Belt. Incelastan is a patriarchal New England ruled by a mixed civilian-military junta. I have a lot of puppets with a vast range of different political orientations. That doesn't mean that I subscribe to all or most of their policies. If you bothered to read my signature, you'd know that.
Also, I'm 46. I have grandchildren. I'm not some teenager with a neckbeard who spends all day sitting on his duff playing WOW or whatever. Not that there is anything wrong with video or PC games.
Was part of this supposed to somehow be reassuring? If so you might need to clarify or expand on it a bit, because I’m doing the math on grandkids by 46 and it’s not really making me feel better per se
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by The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:31 pm
Saiwana wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Well; I have female friends and associates. Even went to one’s flat to clean up her network. She shut the door and even gave me a beer. Network cleaned and no harassment claims. MIght be I am ugly and yet I still don’t walk around in fear of women.
The issue is, if that did happen to you despite you having done nothing wrong- would this cause you to have permanent distrust or cynicism towards other people on some level? Like, lets say someone knew that you were too rich and successful, and saw an opportunity to do blackmail or to shake some money out of you via a staged/baseless claim that could tarnish your reputation but not necessarily be enough to get you locked up?
by Haganham » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:33 pm
Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:Incelastan wrote:
That should be....interesting. I overheard someone yesterday say, "Who am I supposed to vote for now?" I couldn't help but think....not a Republican? But that's probably a stretch with her, as with a lot of neighbors.
Pretty sure Trump will still be able to run as president if he goes to jail, so if he somehow makes it to the polls while serving time, she can still vote for him.
by The Black Forrest » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:38 pm
Haganham wrote:Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:
Pretty sure Trump will still be able to run as president if he goes to jail, so if he somehow makes it to the polls while serving time, she can still vote for him.
The trial and inevitable subsequent appeals will make any sort of ground game impossible for him.
by Northern Seleucia » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:41 pm
The United States of America
"That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom – and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."
American Imperialist - Evangelical Christian
Слава Україні! - Stand with Israel
Overview | Encyclopedia Americana | The World | About Me| My Inspiration in Two VideosNational News: Enraged Enfield Cow Injures Farmer with Ax | Defendant Who Plead Innocent Has Rage Episode During Trial; Kills Prosecutor Accusing Him of Aggravated Homicide | Hurricane Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Found Dead | Hidden Burglar Discovered after Husband Tells Jokes; Hears Laughter Upstairs
by HISPIDA » Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:42 pm
Northern Seleucia wrote:Dunno if posted already, but Trump expected to surrender Tuesday.
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