The Ukrainian War V: Tanks For The Memories

[Tarsonis]

The Russian economy isn't going to implode. I know we all got hyped up at the beginning, but destroying the Russian Economy was never the goal. The goal was to hamstring the economy and limit their ability to spend money on the war effort. And at that they've been fairly successful.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The Russian economy isn't going to implode. I know we all got hyped up at the beginning, but destroying the Russian Economy was never the goal. The goal was to hamstring the economy and limit their ability to spend money on the war effort. And at that they've been fairly successful.

Russian spending on their ministry of war was stagnating even before they started a war of aggression so I can't imagine it's doing any better a whole year afterwards.

[Tarsonis]

The Russian economy isn't going to implode. I know we all got hyped up at the beginning, but destroying the Russian Economy was never the goal. The goal was to hamstring the economy and limit their ability to spend money on the war effort. And at that they've been fairly successful.

Russian spending on their ministry of war was stagnating even before they started a war of aggression so I can't imagine it's doing any better a whole year afterwards.

Cutting milspending right before a war is an odd choice

[Picairn]

Nazism has many symbols, the black sun and swastika are particularly common among Ukranian troops. Wagner isn't waving around a swastika. Those that do actually are going to jail. Displaying fascist symbols is illegal in Russia.

Several Wagner commanders proudly display Nazi symbols on their social media and they're still holding active command.

[Free Algerstonia]

Nazism has many symbols, the black sun and swastika are particularly common among Ukranian troops. Wagner isn't waving around a swastika. Those that do actually are going to jail. Displaying fascist symbols is illegal in Russia.

Several Wagner commanders proudly display Nazi symbols on their social media and they're still holding active command.

they were making fun of the woke west's demonization of the russian people and are planning to destroy them when the special military operation is complete to symbolize novorossiya's new freedom

[Free Algerstonia]

Russian spending on their ministry of war was stagnating even before they started a war of aggression so I can't imagine it's doing any better a whole year afterwards.

Cutting milspending right before a war is an odd choice

because ukraine attacked first

[Tarsonis]

Cutting milspending right before a war is an odd choice

because ukraine attacked first

Ah right, those sneaky devils

[Picairn]

Images of the first Leopard tanks in Ukraine.

It is "likely" that both Berkhivka and Yahidne northwest of Bakhmut have been captured by the Russians.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Nazism has many symbols, the black sun and swastika are particularly common among Ukranian troops. Wagner isn't waving around a swastika. Those that do actually are going to jail. Displaying fascist symbols is illegal in Russia.

Several Wagner commanders proudly display Nazi symbols on their social media and they're still holding active command.

Didn't Utkin name Wagner Wagner because he's a devoted neonazi and wehraboo?

Images of the first Leopard tanks in Ukraine.

"How does one keep them safe from a Kh-22 ?"
lol this guy thinks you shoot 7 ton antiship missiles at tanks

[Tarsonis]

Several Wagner commanders proudly display Nazi symbols on their social media and they're still holding active command.

Didn't Utkin name Wagner Wagner because he's a devoted neonazi and wehraboo?

Images of the first Leopard tanks in Ukraine.

"How does one keep them safe from a Kh-22 ?"
lol this guy thinks you shoot 7 ton antiship missiles at tanks

Given his responses and Ukraine flag, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that it was meant as a joke.

[Tarsonis]

Images of the first Leopard tanks in Ukraine.

It is "likely" that both Berkhivka and Yahidne northwest of Bakhmut have been captured by the Russians.

At this point even if Ukraine pulls out they've extracted far more blood from Russia than the city is worth.

[Picairn]

Didn't Utkin name Wagner Wagner because he's a devoted neonazi and wehraboo?

Utkin is one, Milchakov too.

The pro-Russian side will pretend they don't have a massive Nazi problem, but the fact is aside from Wagner having neo-Nazi elements, the DPR/LPR are also full of them. The Russian far-right was the main recruiter for their militias in the early days of the 2014 conflict and several far-right Russian leaders ended up in the upper echelons of governments of those separatist states (Gubarev and Girkin for example).

[Orostan]

Didn't Utkin name Wagner Wagner because he's a devoted neonazi and wehraboo?

Utkin is one, Milchakov too.

The pro-Russian side will pretend they don't have a massive Nazi problem, but the fact is aside from Wagner having neo-Nazi elements, the DPR/LPR are also full of them. The Russian far-right was the main recruiter for their militias in the early days of the 2014 conflict and several far-right Russian leaders ended up in the upper echelons of governments of those separatist states (Gubarev and Girkin for example).

The far right was purged from the LPR/DPR for the most part, Girkin is out of command and posts pro-Ukraine shit on his twitter. Besides that there's no evidence that Wagner is full of Nazis and even if it was it has a totally different relation to the Russian state than the Azov battalion does to the Ukranian state. It's incomparable, least of all because Wagner isn't nazis.

Images of the first Leopard tanks in Ukraine.

It is "likely" that both Berkhivka and Yahidne northwest of Bakhmut have been captured by the Russians.

At this point even if Ukraine pulls out they've extracted far more blood from Russia than the city is worth.

Did Ukraine tell you this? For every russian gunned down a greater number of Ukrainians have been shelled or killed by superior Wagner troops. Ukraine relies on nabbing any male off the street to fill its army, there's no way you can argue that Russia is the one stretched for manpower.

[Tarsonis]

Utkin is one, Milchakov too.

The pro-Russian side will pretend they don't have a massive Nazi problem, but the fact is aside from Wagner having neo-Nazi elements, the DPR/LPR are also full of them. The Russian far-right was the main recruiter for their militias in the early days of the 2014 conflict and several far-right Russian leaders ended up in the upper echelons of governments of those separatist states (Gubarev and Girkin for example).

The far right was purged from the LPR/DPR for the most part, Girkin is out of command and posts pro-Ukraine shit on his twitter. Besides that there's no evidence that Wagner is full of Nazis and even if it was it has a totally different relation to the Russian state than the Azov battalion does to the Ukranian state. It's incomparable, least of all because Wagner isn't nazis.

At this point even if Ukraine pulls out they've extracted far more blood from Russia than the city is worth.

Did Ukraine tell you this? For every russian gunned down a greater number of Ukrainians have been shelled or killed by superior Wagner troops. Ukraine relies on nabbing any male off the street to fill its army, there's no way you can argue that Russia is the one stretched for manpower.

ahahaha. Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

[Orostan]

The far right was purged from the LPR/DPR for the most part, Girkin is out of command and posts pro-Ukraine shit on his twitter. Besides that there's no evidence that Wagner is full of Nazis and even if it was it has a totally different relation to the Russian state than the Azov battalion does to the Ukranian state. It's incomparable, least of all because Wagner isn't nazis.


Did Ukraine tell you this? For every russian gunned down a greater number of Ukrainians have been shelled or killed by superior Wagner troops. Ukraine relies on nabbing any male off the street to fill its army, there's no way you can argue that Russia is the one stretched for manpower.

ahahaha. Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

If I responded to you in this way I would be reported in a moment for "bad faith" and would likely receive a ban or warning.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Orostan don't simp for Nazis and a mafia state challenge

[Orostan]

Orostan don't simp for Nazis and a mafia state challenge

WRA don't betray every principle you claim to have had challenge. Weren't you a libertarian at some point? Since when do libertarians like printing billions and handing it to corrupt dictators like Zelensky?

[Saperetia]

If I responded to you in this way I would be reported in a moment for "bad faith" and would likely receive a ban or warning.

You can report them and if you have been warned before for a (similar) post then you can use that to argue precedent grounds.

[Orostan]

If I responded to you in this way I would be reported in a moment for "bad faith" and would likely receive a ban or warning.

You can report them and if you have been warned before for a (similar) post then you can use that to argue precedent grounds.

I don't want to. People who report me do so because they disagree with me and want to use moderators as a weapon. I actually believe in relatively free discussion, so I won't report them and they will continue making a fool of themselves.

[Tarsonis]

Orostan don't simp for Nazis and a mafia state challenge

Russian citizens in this very thread have discussed hiding from police trying to deliver conscription orders. Russian mobiks are being sent to the front with little to no equipment, unless the can buy it themselves. Mobick units and Wagner are seeing casualties as high as 90%, yet Ukraine is the one kidnapping people for the war machine. Lmao

[Washington Resistance Army]

Weren't you a libertarian at some point?

Yeah like 8 years ago lol. Experiencing the world as an adult continually drove me to the left on most issues, and unlike you I try to be consistent in my opposition to imperialism nowadays. It's the same reason I dislike Israel, why I dislike American ForPol and why I dislike Russia.

Ukraine is a deeply, deeply, flawed nation, but that does not excuse 1800s style imperialism on the part of Russia towards them. If you had any actual beliefs beyond disliking the US you'd be in the same boat as pretty much every other Marxist or leftist here, which is to recognize that Ukraine is massively flawed and the US isn't helping them out of any sort of altruism but they are still the objective good side here because they are the victims of imperialism.

[Orostan]

Orostan don't simp for Nazis and a mafia state challenge

Russian citizens in this very thread have discussed hiding from police trying to deliver conscription orders. Russian mobiks are being sent to the front with little to no equipment, unless the can buy it themselves. Mobick units and Wagner are seeing casualties as high as 90%, yet Ukraine is the one kidnapping people for the war machine. Lmao

90% is an insane number unrivaled by anything else. It's obviously made up to fool people like you. More than 80% of Russians approve of Putin, his support is overwhelming.

[Picairn]

The far right was purged from the LPR/DPR for the most part, Girkin is out of command and posts pro-Ukraine shit on his twitter. Besides that there's no evidence that Wagner is full of Nazis and even if it was it has a totally different relation to the Russian state than the Azov battalion does to the Ukranian state. It's incomparable, least of all because Wagner isn't nazis.

"The far right was purged from the LPR/DPR for the most part" Proof? Azov neo-Nazis and the Ukrainian far-right has also been on the decline and chased out for some time but I keep seeing you pretending like it's still 2014. Back then the separatist states arguably had more Nazis than the Ukrainian state itself.

"There's no evidence that Wagner is full of Nazis" Uh huh, the neo-Nazi commanders and those Nazi graffiti they left behind in Libya says otherwise.

The Russian state implicitly allowed Nazi parties and paramilitary groups to recruit fighters for the separatist Donbass militias, how is that in any way less evil?

[Tarsonis]

ahahaha. Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

If I responded to you in this way I would be reported in a moment for "bad faith" and would likely receive a ban or warning.

Yeah but see that's not an equal comparison. I argue in good faith all the time, so when I laugh at ridiculous and easily disprovable shit, no one really cares. you almost always argue in bad faith pushing ridiculously false propaganda, so if you responded that way, it's just obvious trolling.

we are not the same.

[Picairn]

90% is an insane number unrivaled by anything else. It's obviously made up to fool people like you. More than 80% of Russians approve of Putin, his support is overwhelming.

His support is underpinned by propaganda and suppression. Russians in rural areas outside of large cities only have state-run media on their TVs, of course they'd believe what the government tells them.