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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Treznor » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:09 pm

I would support impeaching him for one of reasons Bush sorely needed to be impeached: the state secrets doctrine. They're both pursuing a policy that says the government and its agents can violate the law without oversight from anyone. The Obama administration is currently defending (with new arguments that even the Bush administration didn't use) lawsuits that attempt to bypass Constitutional law and allow them to operate with impunity.

I was hoping that this would be addressed and reversed, but it doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon. So on those grounds alone, I would support impeachment. There's no way I want to allow this precedent to continue, no matter what party identification the President holds.

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Postby Chrobalta » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:09 pm

I know somebody who wants Obama impeached :p
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srsly, the right needs to start behaving, impeachment should be reserved only for when the President commits serious crimes like what Nixon was doing. Not ridiculous things like lying about a blowjob or somebody who differs in ideology.
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Der Teutoniker » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:14 pm

Chrobalta wrote:Not ridiculous things like lying about a blowjob or somebody who differs in ideology.


It wasn't merely "lying" or for receiving a blowjob, mind you. It was for lying under oath. Recall that he was the figurehead of our government, we should be able to count on him not lying under oath.
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Chrobalta » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:19 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Not ridiculous things like lying about a blowjob or somebody who differs in ideology.


It wasn't merely "lying" or for receiving a blowjob, mind you. It was for lying under oath. Recall that he was the figurehead of our government, we should be able to count on him not lying under oath.

Better question, why was he asked about it under oath?
Censure him, if he lies, but not impeach him.
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Treznor » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Der Teutoniker wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Not ridiculous things like lying about a blowjob or somebody who differs in ideology.


It wasn't merely "lying" or for receiving a blowjob, mind you. It was for lying under oath. Recall that he was the figurehead of our government, we should be able to count on him not lying under oath.

He wouldn't be the first, and he won't be the last. Frankly, I'd rather have a President who lies about a blowjob than one who lies about weapons of mass destruction. The irony is that Clinton's infidelity was roundly condemned and prosecuted by some of the most adulterous individuals in town.

It was an utter waste of time. And in the end? Clintons poll numbers were higher after impeachment than before.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Blluedevil » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Obama is a great president and shame on you for even bringing up the question of impeachment. George Bush is the one that should have been impeached.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby German Capitalists » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:23 pm

Obama is a great President?!

Dude, you should really become a comedian... :rofl:

Bush was not a great President, I'll be honest about that. But Obama has to be the worst President to ever step foot in America, whether your Liberal or Conservative, you'll start to realize that. Use the classic Liberal Trademark, "Your Racist" if you want but if anyone should be impeached, it should be him. He has done more things to kick America off the road of Capitalism then any other President and has done things in Office that would be political suicide if he wasn't a far left liberal and if the media didn't love him. Need an example? Uh, how about that thing where the White House asked people to report other people who were spreading supposed "misinformation" about Obama's ideas? Do you remember Bush asking Americans to report people who disagreed with his decisions? Uh, the correct answer would be no. Oh yeah and what was that talk of Bush getting America into so much debt due to the war? Did everyone forget the stimulus bill?! :blink: All I see in Obama is some arrogant Black Supremacist who thinks he is the Messiah of America. Mainly Black Supremacist because he went to a church for 20 years with Reverend Wright. He wrote two or more books about himself before he was even in power. Ironically, Hitler wrote two volumes of Mein Kampf before he was in power. :eek: Ironic, History does repeat itself. Saying Obama is going to go on a manhunt for all the Jews is ludicrous but he's already started going on a manhunt for the things that make America great. Call it the Americaust. Although he hasn't committed any crimes that anyone can prove, he should be impeached just for the sheer stupidity of his Administration and the gradual murder of several things that have contributed to the greatness of America. So Obama, go to hell. :clap:
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Hyperactive Snowsleds » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:24 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:
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Curse your quick fingers.


:twisted:

Oh...
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Postby Der Teutoniker » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:26 pm

Chrobalta wrote:Better question, why was he asked about it under oath?
Censure him, if he lies, but not impeach him.


Correct, that is the better question.

He shouldn't've been asked, but he shouldn't've lied, either.

My personal feelings range from commiseration with his situation (a little, it should never have been made a matter for the courts), to anger that he lied under oath, so I'm definately a bit wishy-washy.
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Tartaroo » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:26 pm

Is this thread a joke?

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Re: Barack Obama impeachment?

Postby Bavin » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:29 pm

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Rush Limbaugh has nothing to do with this. The massive national debt does.

Yeah, but we would have to impeach W. for that.
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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Rothbardia-Camusia » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:36 pm

Impeachment is nonsense. For participating in the use of force against hundreds of millions of people every day, though, I do feel folks have every reason to despise the man. One could say the same of Bush and every other abhorrent non-human that's hoisted himself onto the throne.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Milks Empire » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:37 pm

He has not, to the best of my knowledge, committed high crimes or misdemeanors. He cannot credibly be impeached.

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Postby Hyperactive Snowsleds » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:39 pm

For wasting the economy/debt isn't a reason to impeach somebody. Rather crimes are. Pardon.
"By anytime, where the mathematical numbers cannot void, I'm the only one who does everything by the numbers. The mathematical inference on the vector field in which the gradient seems to decrease in change all the time. However, taking that the axioms of each number are in correspondance of (s(x+1)int inf to 0 (x+6^n-y")+y), complex solutions must only be found in the Mandelbrot Set."- Me at a true mathematical system. "Kill me..." My peer back in middle school.

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Re: Barack Obama impeachment?

Postby Sire Magister » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:39 pm

No. He'll hopefully begin turning America into a social democracy. And impeaching Obama is just wholly retarded unless he reforms the U.S. to be an Islamofascist hellhole. Of which probability is nil.

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Postby Hyperactive Snowsleds » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:41 pm

Sire Magister wrote:No. He'll hopefully begin turning America into a social democracy. And impeaching Obama is just wholly retarded unless he reforms the U.S. to be an Islamofascist hellhole. Of which probability is nil.

Actually, unlikely. Due to the instability of the distributions in the economics, a single share down, and a whole bunch of other's are gonna fall like dominos.
"By anytime, where the mathematical numbers cannot void, I'm the only one who does everything by the numbers. The mathematical inference on the vector field in which the gradient seems to decrease in change all the time. However, taking that the axioms of each number are in correspondance of (s(x+1)int inf to 0 (x+6^n-y")+y), complex solutions must only be found in the Mandelbrot Set."- Me at a true mathematical system. "Kill me..." My peer back in middle school.

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Re: Barack Obama impeachment?

Postby Sire Magister » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:44 pm

Hyperactive Snowsleds wrote:
Sire Magister wrote:No. He'll hopefully begin turning America into a social democracy. And impeaching Obama is just wholly retarded unless he reforms the U.S. to be an Islamofascist hellhole. Of which probability is nil.

Actually, unlikely. Due to the instability of the distributions in the economics, a single share down, and a whole bunch of other's are gonna fall like dominos.


Meh. Note 'hopefully'. At the least, he better sort out Wall Street.

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Re: Barack Obama impeachment?

Postby Hyperactive Snowsleds » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:45 pm

Sire Magister wrote:
Hyperactive Snowsleds wrote:
Sire Magister wrote:No. He'll hopefully begin turning America into a social democracy. And impeaching Obama is just wholly retarded unless he reforms the U.S. to be an Islamofascist hellhole. Of which probability is nil.

Actually, unlikely. Due to the instability of the distributions in the economics, a single share down, and a whole bunch of other's are gonna fall like dominos.


Meh. Note 'hopefully'. At the least, he better sort out Wall Street.

Yeah, that is going quite well, actually.
"By anytime, where the mathematical numbers cannot void, I'm the only one who does everything by the numbers. The mathematical inference on the vector field in which the gradient seems to decrease in change all the time. However, taking that the axioms of each number are in correspondance of (s(x+1)int inf to 0 (x+6^n-y")+y), complex solutions must only be found in the Mandelbrot Set."- Me at a true mathematical system. "Kill me..." My peer back in middle school.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby South Thasland » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:45 pm

JuNii wrote:
Mogck 2 wrote:Say yes or no and say why.

no. he didn't do anything wrong nor illegal.


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Re: Barack Obama impeachment?

Postby Trippoli » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:46 pm

Chetssaland wrote:Not quite worth impeaching yet, but you never know. He's socializing the country and that healthcare plan is shit.


He can't be impeached for epically failing...

Only for treason, or some situation like Bill Clinton or Richard Nixon.
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Mogck 2 wrote:Say whether yes or no and the reason.


Why did you create a posting, to tell the world that you have nothing to say?

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Postby Hyperactive Snowsleds » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:48 pm

Hairless Kitten II wrote:
Mogck 2 wrote:Say whether yes or no and the reason.


Why did you create a posting, to tell the world that you have nothing to say?

Partly context, but I agree.
"By anytime, where the mathematical numbers cannot void, I'm the only one who does everything by the numbers. The mathematical inference on the vector field in which the gradient seems to decrease in change all the time. However, taking that the axioms of each number are in correspondance of (s(x+1)int inf to 0 (x+6^n-y")+y), complex solutions must only be found in the Mandelbrot Set."- Me at a true mathematical system. "Kill me..." My peer back in middle school.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Trippoli » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:50 pm

German Capitalists wrote:Obama is a great President?!

Dude, you should really become a comedian... :rofl:

Bush was not a great President, I'll be honest about that. But Obama has to be the worst President to ever step foot in America, whether your Liberal or Conservative, you'll start to realize that. Use the classic Liberal Trademark, "Your Racist" if you want but if anyone should be impeached, it should be him. He has done more things to kick America off the road of Capitalism then any other President and has done things in Office that would be political suicide if he wasn't a far left liberal and if the media didn't love him. Need an example? Uh, how about that thing where the White House asked people to report other people who were spreading supposed "misinformation" about Obama's ideas? Do you remember Bush asking Americans to report people who disagreed with his decisions? Uh, the correct answer would be no. Oh yeah and what was that talk of Bush getting America into so much debt due to the war? Did everyone forget the stimulus bill?! :blink: All I see in Obama is some arrogant Black Supremacist who thinks he is the Messiah of America. Mainly Black Supremacist because he went to a church for 20 years with Reverend Wright. He wrote two or more books about himself before he was even in power. Ironically, Hitler wrote two volumes of Mein Kampf before he was in power. :eek: Ironic, History does repeat itself. Saying Obama is going to go on a manhunt for all the Jews is ludicrous but he's already started going on a manhunt for the things that make America great. Call it the Americaust. Although he hasn't committed any crimes that anyone can prove, he should be impeached just for the sheer stupidity of his Administration and the gradual murder of several things that have contributed to the greatness of America. So Obama, go to hell. :clap:


Calling Obama Hitler? Wow, Hitler was right-wing..
Obama isn't an black supremacists. his mother is white..
He shouldn't just be impeached for the "stupidity", it is your own opinion if he has done something wrong, wise ass.

Your argument is bullshit.
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Postby Intangelon » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:55 pm

Rothbardia-Camusia wrote:Impeachment is nonsense. For participating in the use of force against hundreds of millions of people every day, though, I do feel folks have every reason to despise the man. One could say the same of Bush and every other abhorrent non-human that's hoisted himself onto the throne.


Non-human. :roll: Right.

Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks.

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Re: Obama impeachment?

Postby Milks Empire » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:58 pm

German Capitalists wrote:He has done more things to kick America off the road of Capitalism then any other President

You assume everyone would cry if that happened. I would rejoice at it.

German Capitalists wrote:and has done things in Office that would be political suicide if he wasn't a far left liberal

He's not a far-left anything. He's most definitely right-wing.

German Capitalists wrote:and if the media didn't love him.

Oh really? Fox News.

German Capitalists wrote:Uh, how about that thing where the White House asked people to report other people who were spreading supposed "misinformation" about Obama's ideas?

Not people. E-mails with deliberate misinformation. Like the ones the Birthers send around.

German Capitalists wrote:Oh yeah and what was that talk of Bush getting America into so much debt due to the war? Did everyone forget the stimulus bill?!

And who signed the first stimulus package? Oh yeah... that was Bush, the guy whose dick you're sucking with this post. So it's OK when Bush does it but not OK when Obama does the same thing?

German Capitalists wrote:All I see in Obama is some arrogant Black Supremacist

:palm:

German Capitalists wrote:who thinks he is the Messiah of America.

Never once heard him say or allude to that. Source. NOW.

German Capitalists wrote:He wrote two or more books about himself before he was even in power. Ironically, Hitler wrote two volumes of Mein Kampf before he was in power.

:palm: Yes, because every politician who writes books must be a Nazi.

German Capitalists wrote:Although he hasn't committed any crimes

Then he cannot be impeached. Period.

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