by Arkhengelskz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:46 pm
by The Unknown Army » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:19 pm
by Albrook » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:32 pm
by Fort Concord » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:33 pm
Albrook wrote:Fash regions make actual fascists think they’re welcome and are permitted to politick here. Indeed, the region was probably only intended for edgy roleplay, but those who conduct those “raids” can tell better stories than I can of actual fascists among us.
by The Great Nevada Overlord » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:35 pm
by Striagro Uspil » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:36 pm
Striagro Uspil wrote:Flemmingburg wrote:I'm a relatively new player, but I know I can't be the only one wondering why in a fictional internet game where you can be as tyrannical, corrupt, and dictator-y as you want why fascists get such a bad reputation? Regions get raided and / or taken over and nations get condemned or are dis-allowed from joining some regions. I honestly don't get it. Sure fascists are bad in real life and did horrible stuff, but so have communists. Hell, almost every single ideology has done something horrible at some point. I'm not arguing in its favor, but simply that people on here should be able to truly play as the bad guys without being subject to pretentious crusading.
The reason is because Nationstates is not created in a vacuum. It's a game inhabited by individuals who live in an era when Western culture and society puts fascism under heavy and intense scrutiny while other ideologies like Communism, Socialism, and Capitalism are generally viewed with more favor (depending on who you ask). Due to this inherent bias (for better or worse) the average Nationstates player is going to be more sensitive to fascism spreading on the website rather than other ideologies spreading.
by Fifth Jellian Republic » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:38 pm
by Zaeylia » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:46 pm
by Arkhengelskz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:36 pm
The Unknown Army wrote:Because fascism at its very core is violent, divisive, imperialistic, and oppressive. It promotes the conquest and genocide of others to establish state superiority and seeks to end individual freedoms of its own people to instill ultra-nationalism, sometimes via horrendous methods.
It is a cruel and unusual set of ideals born from desperation and anger and history has proven it's basically a lose-lose situation for all involved.
by Arkhengelskz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:45 pm
Striagro Uspil wrote:Someone similar made a post as to why and I shall give you the same answer I did back then.Striagro Uspil wrote:The reason is because Nationstates is not created in a vacuum. It's a game inhabited by individuals who live in an era when Western culture and society puts fascism under heavy and intense scrutiny while other ideologies like Communism, Socialism, and Capitalism are generally viewed with more favor (depending on who you ask). Due to this inherent bias (for better or worse) the average Nationstates player is going to be more sensitive to fascism spreading on the website rather than other ideologies spreading.
by New Bradfordsburg » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:46 pm
by -Astoria- » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:51 pm
Arkhengelskz wrote:Firstly, yes I understand the stigma.
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by Soviet Adia » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:55 pm
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by Soviet Adia » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:08 pm
by The Great Nevada Overlord » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:11 pm
Soviet Adia wrote:Durius wrote:Uh? No!
Lets see, Communism: gulags, regional starvation and basically forced labor; Democracy: has not caused anything directly, but Democratic countries have done some terrible stuff; Fascism: genocide; Anarchists: this one is pretty self-explanatory; Socialism: same as Democracy; Capitalism: work or die from, starvation, lethal injury, dehydration, jailed for homelessness, etc; Monarchies/dictatorships: restricted freedoms, genocide.
plenty of ideologies have done some some bad things, if there was a perfect ideology there wouldnt be so many problems in the world
by The Astral Mandate » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:15 pm
Soviet Adia wrote:Durius wrote:Uh? No!
Lets see, Communism: gulags, regional starvation and basically forced labor; Democracy: has not caused anything directly, but Democratic countries have done some terrible stuff; Fascism: genocide; Anarchists: this one is pretty self-explanatory; Socialism: same as Democracy; Capitalism: work or die from, starvation, lethal injury, dehydration, jailed for homelessness, etc; Monarchies/dictatorships: restricted freedoms, genocide.
plenty of ideologies have done some some bad things, if there was a perfect ideology there wouldnt be so many problems in the world
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by United Bongo States of America » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:16 pm
Soviet Adia wrote:Durius wrote:Uh? No!
Lets see, Communism: gulags, regional starvation and basically forced labor; Democracy: has not caused anything directly, but Democratic countries have done some terrible stuff; Fascism: genocide; Anarchists: this one is pretty self-explanatory; Socialism: same as Democracy; Capitalism: work or die from, starvation, lethal injury, dehydration, jailed for homelessness, etc; Monarchies/dictatorships: restricted freedoms, genocide.
plenty of ideologies have done some some bad things, if there was a perfect ideology there wouldnt be so many problems in the world
by Free Algerstonia » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:17 pm
United Bongo States of America wrote:Soviet Adia wrote:Lets see, Communism: gulags, regional starvation and basically forced labor; Democracy: has not caused anything directly, but Democratic countries have done some terrible stuff; Fascism: genocide; Anarchists: this one is pretty self-explanatory; Socialism: same as Democracy; Capitalism: work or die from, starvation, lethal injury, dehydration, jailed for homelessness, etc; Monarchies/dictatorships: restricted freedoms, genocide.
plenty of ideologies have done some some bad things, if there was a perfect ideology there wouldnt be so many problems in the world
There is a perfect ideology. It is referred to as Jesus Christ's teachings.
by Arkhengelskz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:17 pm
United Bongo States of America wrote:Fascism is on the rise in our region.
by Arkhengelskz » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:18 pm
by New Bradfordsburg » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:25 pm
Arkhengelskz wrote:As a religious person, specifically a Christian, people have done plenty of horrible things in the name of Christianity, and in the name of religion as a whole. There's nothing wrong with Christianity as an ideology, but we can't ignore the fact that many bad things have been done under it's banner.
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