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by San Lumen » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:21 am

by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:23 am
Neutraligon wrote:Wish I knew what the count was so far.

by Loeje » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:25 am

by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:27 am
Loeje wrote:Can someone please explain to me why people keep voting for Jim Jordan?

by Loeje » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:27 am

by Nora Xent » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:28 am
Loeje wrote:Nora Xent wrote:Because he is a far-right extremist and they are also far-right extremists?
Don't they have Biggs for that?San Lumen wrote:
They don’t want McCarthy to be speaker. I hope this goes ballot after ballot for weeks.
We need a speaker for a functional government, so we should all hope that this goes quickly.

by The Black Forrest » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:30 am
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:-Astoria- wrote:Can you name for us some of these "old-time family values"?
God, Manners, Nation, Hard Work, anti Abortion, Anti Illegal Drugs, Anti CRT Critical Race Theory In Schools, Colleges and Universities, Pro America First Foreign Policy. Pro MAGA. Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis, Pro Ronald Reagan. President Ronald Reagan was a Gentleman, they don't Make them Like President Ronald Reagan Any More.

by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:31 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:God, Manners, Nation, Hard Work, anti Abortion, Anti Illegal Drugs, Anti CRT Critical Race Theory In Schools, Colleges and Universities, Pro America First Foreign Policy. Pro MAGA. Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis, Pro Ronald Reagan. President Ronald Reagan was a Gentleman, they don't Make them Like President Ronald Reagan Any More.
I never understood this need to return to the 50s. There are many problems with your “old fashioned family values”
For one thing. CRT wasn’t a thing so bringing it up is invalid. That is of course you want only the myths (ie the puritans in search of religious freedom, slavery wasn’t that bad, etc.). Still…
Reagan was an actor. He was good a presenting an image. He was highly flawed as well. Many of his staff was convicted/charged of various crimes. His handling of AIDs. The first massive job exportation….
DeSantis is not “old fashioned family values”. He is a bully by nature and is using the hatred fueled by the Trump era for his own gain. Still…he probably would of fit in the 50’s with his hate and rhetoric. He is basically a smarter version of trump…..well a little more smarter. Does he talk about being a member of SEAL team still?
Maga and trump are not part of the 50’s family values. In fact he would have been punished by those people.
Now as the rest of the list?
God - Why do we need to ratchet up homophobia and issues of interracial relationships? There was a great deal of hate in the name of God. It’s why people aren’t as religious as they are now. Bad priests were unknown and unchecked. The things that happened in their “care” facilities….
Manners - Yes. Your lot could really improve in that area. Owning the libs, the in your face views, etc., etc. You want to correct this problem? Clean up your house first.
Nation - Part of a free people is the ability to say your nation has done bad things. Why would you want that stopped? Do you want policing of bad comments? Trump does. I forget the General; he reported Trump asked about reactivating retired generals who wrote op-Ed’s criticizing him so they could be court martialed.
Hard Work - Are you actually suggesting that stopped? When I still had a job (thank you for the job loss Trump); I could have used 2 people. I could have had 3 but they had to be in India.
Anti-Abortion - Yup that was illegal back then. Still tell us how you support women by taking that away. Also, the rights women had in the 50’s? Are you delusional?
Anti-Drugs - You think there was no drug activity back then?
Seriously dude, study what you are talking about versus parroting comments of the RNC, Reagan and Trump. Actually did trump mention family values?
by Bewaffnete Krafte » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:32 am
If he does respond it'll be something along the lines of "your facts and my facts are different" because he doesn't understand how debate works.The Black Forrest wrote:Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:God, Manners, Nation, Hard Work, anti Abortion, Anti Illegal Drugs, Anti CRT Critical Race Theory In Schools, Colleges and Universities, Pro America First Foreign Policy. Pro MAGA. Pro Trump, Pro Ron DeSantis, Pro Ronald Reagan. President Ronald Reagan was a Gentleman, they don't Make them Like President Ronald Reagan Any More.
I never understood this need to return to the 50s. There are many problems with your “old fashioned family values”
For one thing. CRT wasn’t a thing so bringing it up is invalid. That is of course you want only the myths (ie the puritans in search of religious freedom, slavery wasn’t that bad, etc.). Still…
Reagan was an actor. He was good a presenting an image. He was highly flawed as well. Many of his staff was convicted/charged of various crimes. His handling of AIDs. The first massive job exportation….
DeSantis is not “old fashioned family values”. He is a bully by nature and is using the hatred fueled by the Trump era for his own gain. Still…he probably would of fit in the 50’s with his hate and rhetoric. He is basically a smarter version of trump…..well a little more smarter. Does he talk about being a member of SEAL team still?
Maga and trump are not part of the 50’s family values. In fact he would have been punished by those people.
Now as the rest of the list?
God - Why do we need to ratchet up homophobia and issues of interracial relationships? There was a great deal of hate in the name of God. It’s why people aren’t as religious as they are now. Bad priests were unknown and unchecked. The things that happened in their “care” facilities….
Manners - Yes. Your lot could really improve in that area. Owning the libs, the in your face views, etc., etc. You want to correct this problem? Clean up your house first.
Nation - Part of a free people is the ability to say your nation has done bad things. Why would you want that stopped? Do you want policing of bad comments? Trump does. I forget the General; he reported Trump asked about reactivating retired generals who wrote op-Ed’s criticizing him so they could be court martialed.
Hard Work - Are you actually suggesting that stopped? When I still had a job (thank you for the job loss Trump); I could have used 2 people. I could have had 3 but they had to be in India.
Anti-Abortion - Yup that was illegal back then. Still tell us how you support women by taking that away. Also, the rights women had in the 50’s? Are you delusional?
Anti-Drugs - You think there was no drug activity back then?
Seriously dude, study what you are talking about versus parroting comments of the RNC, Reagan and Trump. Actually did trump mention family values?
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by Vassenor » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:32 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Does he talk about being a member of SEAL team still?

by Thermodolia » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:33 am

by Vassenor » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:34 am
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
I never understood this need to return to the 50s. There are many problems with your “old fashioned family values”
For one thing. CRT wasn’t a thing so bringing it up is invalid. That is of course you want only the myths (ie the puritans in search of religious freedom, slavery wasn’t that bad, etc.). Still…
Reagan was an actor. He was good a presenting an image. He was highly flawed as well. Many of his staff was convicted/charged of various crimes. His handling of AIDs. The first massive job exportation….
DeSantis is not “old fashioned family values”. He is a bully by nature and is using the hatred fueled by the Trump era for his own gain. Still…he probably would of fit in the 50’s with his hate and rhetoric. He is basically a smarter version of trump…..well a little more smarter. Does he talk about being a member of SEAL team still?
Maga and trump are not part of the 50’s family values. In fact he would have been punished by those people.
Now as the rest of the list?
God - Why do we need to ratchet up homophobia and issues of interracial relationships? There was a great deal of hate in the name of God. It’s why people aren’t as religious as they are now. Bad priests were unknown and unchecked. The things that happened in their “care” facilities….
Manners - Yes. Your lot could really improve in that area. Owning the libs, the in your face views, etc., etc. You want to correct this problem? Clean up your house first.
Nation - Part of a free people is the ability to say your nation has done bad things. Why would you want that stopped? Do you want policing of bad comments? Trump does. I forget the General; he reported Trump asked about reactivating retired generals who wrote op-Ed’s criticizing him so they could be court martialed.
Hard Work - Are you actually suggesting that stopped? When I still had a job (thank you for the job loss Trump); I could have used 2 people. I could have had 3 but they had to be in India.
Anti-Abortion - Yup that was illegal back then. Still tell us how you support women by taking that away. Also, the rights women had in the 50’s? Are you delusional?
Anti-Drugs - You think there was no drug activity back then?
Seriously dude, study what you are talking about versus parroting comments of the RNC, Reagan and Trump. Actually did trump mention family values?
I see your anti Republican opinions.

by Thermodolia » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:34 am

by San Lumen » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:35 am
Thermodolia wrote:As of this point 17 republicans are refusing to vote for McCarthy. There’s no way this isn’t going to a second or multiple round votes

by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:35 am
Thermodolia wrote:As of this point 17 republicans are refusing to vote for McCarthy. There’s no way this isn’t going to a second or multiple round votes

by Loeje » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:36 am

by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:37 am

by Thermodolia » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:37 am

by Ifreann » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:37 am

by San Lumen » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:37 am
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Thermodolia wrote:As of this point 17 republicans are refusing to vote for McCarthy. There’s no way this isn’t going to a second or multiple round votes
Those are protest votes, because they are tired of soft Republicans, giving in to the Leftist, Liberal, Democrat, Progressives.

by Necroghastia » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:38 am
or God forbid gaslighting them into thinking they're transgender That isn't anyone's business, and it shouldn't certainly be propagandized to the public.
Based Illinois wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Define “woke ideology” without resorting to weird buzzwords.
Atomization is a buzzword?
Attempting to separate individuals from all forms of traditional identity: family, community, sex, race, nationality, culture, history, religion, etc.
To atomize the person from their traditional support groups

by San Lumen » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:38 am
Thermodolia wrote:San Lumen wrote:
I want it to go ballot after ballot for weeks. Democrats have said they will not help Republicans elect a speaker nor should they.
We need to be able to govern, so let’s not have the voting go on for weeks. Besides the Dems either need to put forth a candidate that could get bipartisan support or convince 5 moderate republicans to vote for Jefferies.

by Thermodolia » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:38 am
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