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by Sedgistan » Wed Nov 30, 2022 4:42 am
by Sedgistan » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:54 am
Sedgistan wrote:I've had some further feedback from Violet on names of some of the aspects being introduced in F/S (e.g. "Anchor"), so potentially some of those will change.
by Haganham » Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:29 am
by One Small Island » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:40 pm
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by Sedgistan » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:36 am
by Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:38 am
by Tinhampton » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:02 am
by Ankuran » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:53 am
Sedgistan wrote:Democracy/Autocracy wasn't well received by those regions that had rich democratic histories but who wanted to maintain the security of an Executive Founder.
"Union" has been floated behind the scenes; a region being either an insecure, unsettled "Frontier" or a stable and settled "Union" of nations.
Discussing names isn't holding anything up at present, but we need to settle them before January.
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by Reventus Koth » Thu Dec 01, 2022 10:17 am
Xanthal wrote:Only raiders can win in this war- a defender can keep them from winning one region, one update at a time, but there will always be the next region, the next update, and the next, forever.
by Sedgistan » Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:23 pm
Reventus Koth wrote:Back when I wrote the original Faction Gameplay proposal 4 years ago (holy shit), I called what would eventually become Strongholds and Frontiers, "Electors" and "Territories". They hardly seem appropriate now, after the idea has changed so drastically, but the idea of territories in general is still going to be relevant once this overhaul drops.
by Reventus Koth » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:25 pm
Sedgistan wrote:So by the time this is hopefully implemented, it'd actually be an 8 year timespan from original idea to going live.
Xanthal wrote:Only raiders can win in this war- a defender can keep them from winning one region, one update at a time, but there will always be the next region, the next update, and the next, forever.
by Haganham » Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:56 am
Sedgistan wrote:That got simplified down to 3 tiers (Democracy / Oligarchy / Autocracy) around October 2015
by Numero Capitan » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:04 am
by Shadow Panther » Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:12 pm
by Narvatus » Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:48 pm
Shadow Panther wrote:Main / Mainland? As in, the "Spanish Main" or "Mainland China." Seems to usually refer to a country or land or continent that doesn't include any outlying territories or islands. Just a thought.
by King HEM » Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:33 pm
by Sedgistan » Mon Dec 05, 2022 3:16 am
King HEM wrote:What about "bastion"? It can be interpreted the same way as "stronghold" but there's also potentially some philosophic interpretations of the word too (e.g. as bastion can be an institution//place strongly defending or upholding particular principles >> civilization).
by Haganham » Mon Dec 05, 2022 9:18 am
by Galiantus III » Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:28 pm
Haganham wrote:Bastion is an excellent fit, a more elegant version of stronghold; but I'd think it would be rejected for the same reason as stronghold.
as for transitioning, maybe different terms for which way your going for help,
frontier->stronghold=entrench
stronghold->frontier=liberalize
I realize liberalize has connotations, but given that people who are applying the policy, or advocating for such a move presumably agree with those connotations(it's better to be more open at the expense of having a lockdown on control) that seems fine.
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by Rykkland » Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 pm
Sedgistan wrote:King HEM wrote:What about "bastion"? It can be interpreted the same way as "stronghold" but there's also potentially some philosophic interpretations of the word too (e.g. as bastion can be an institution//place strongly defending or upholding particular principles >> civilization).
I like that.
by Leutria » Sat Dec 17, 2022 2:33 pm
Mikeswill wrote:Does this mean that Founderless Regions remain Founderless?
ie. I am unable to ask to become Founder of NationStates and opt in the Frontier status?
Sedgistan wrote:They become Strongholds still, but without any Founder/Governor. So they'd effectively be the same while Strongholds. But they have the option of a risky switch to Frontier and back, which would get the Delegate the Executive Governor position at the end of it, providing them lasting security.
by Comfed » Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:32 pm
Leutria wrote:Mikeswill wrote:Does this mean that Founderless Regions remain Founderless?
ie. I am unable to ask to become Founder of NationStates and opt in the Frontier status?
Someone asked about founderless regions earlier and this is what Sedgistan said then:Sedgistan wrote:They become Strongholds still, but without any Founder/Governor. So they'd effectively be the same while Strongholds. But they have the option of a risky switch to Frontier and back, which would get the Delegate the Executive Governor position at the end of it, providing them lasting security.
So my understanding is you still wouldn't get a founder, but you still could convert the region to a Frontier if you wanted. (Or if you wanted to at least have "Governor Emeritus" status you could switch to a Frontier, back to a Stronghold, and then back to a Frontier again. Since each switch is 2 weeks, it would take you 6 weeks to do that).
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