Internal and International Incidents [OOC • OPEN]

[CONGOlese republic]

SM's warning continues.

Edit: Sorry for the inconvinence

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

I should mention that South Americanastan is known for being relatively unfair. The ban was probably not actually for breaking rules, more not agreeing with the KTO. But we understand.

[South Americanastan]

I should mention that South Americanastan is known for being an asshole. The ban was probably not actually for breaking rules, more not agreeing with the KTO. But we understand.

It was for using III to circumvent his ban from GA lmao.

Also, what you think I am isn’t applicable to everyone else. Most people know me as one of the chiller people on this subforum.

[CONGOlese republic]

I should mention that South Americanastan is known for being an asshole. The ban was probably not actually for breaking rules, more not agreeing with the KTO. But we understand.

It was for using III to circumvent his ban from GA lmao.

Can't we Please set this aside for a better future?

Also for my god damn mind's sake

[CONGOlese republic]

I have a suggestion for posters, use

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and

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for The first letter of a word. This just makes it look more neato

[Awesome Imperium]

I have a suggestion for posters, use

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and

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for The first letter of a word. This just makes it look more neato

Is that for me?

[CONGOlese republic]

I have a suggestion for posters, use

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and

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for The first letter of a word. This just makes it look more neato

Is that for me?

To anyone, literally anyone, this just makes it look neater and gives realistic vibes. Yours would be really good with these.

[Farnhamia]

I should mention that South Americanastan is known for being an asshole. The ban was probably not actually for breaking rules, more not agreeing with the KTO. But we understand.

*** Warned for flaming ***
"Flame/Threats: Personal attacks against other players, expressed via OOC (out-of-character) comments; insults, swearing and anything posted with intent to offend." You can look this sort of stuff up in the Rules. I suggest you review them.

[Mitheldalond]

Rule breaking content in TGs should be reported via a Getting Help Request. In this case, this would probably be closest to flaming or flamebaiting.


So, it would probably be wise to avoid using redtext when handing out warnings. Most of the Mods use some form of red text when acting in an official capacity, including handing out unofficial warnings, so doing the same as a thread OP is potentially flirting with danger. As you can see, there's really no way to distinguish between the above and this:

Also, out of curiosity, did South Ameriwhatsit put you up to this warning? Because quoting someone's post from another thread isn't against site rules or your rules, and you seem uncertain why you're warning him.

I saw that, but I had seen another one of these before. So, I thought this text would be fine, but I'll not use it in the future.

He says it's in his thread and he banned SM, so he is curcumvating the ban by posting here with a GA post quoted. I want to get mods to solve this, can you tell me how I should proceed?

Just to be clear, I'm not a Mod and have absolutely no authority whatsoever to tell you how you can or can't post. I'm just suggesting that it would probably be safer not to use redtext in this context, since that is a thing Mods do. If you want more clarity or a more definite answer, you can always make a question thread in Moderation.

As for South Ameriblah, he has absolutely no authority over anything that happens outside his thread. Period. He has no right to tell you, or anyone else, what they can post in your thread, or any other thread. Quoting someone's posts from one thread to another is not against the rules (at least, not that I've ever heard), and I suspect SA knows that, which is why he went to you instead of to the Mods. Evading a ban (see also: Thread Bans & OP Powers) is only a thing if SM continued posting in SA's thread after being told to leave.

I obviously don't know what he said to you in TGs, but I suspect that it may fall into the category of using Mods as weapons and/or impersonating a Mod. But you don't have to know exactly what rule has been broken to report conduct you believe may be against the rules to the Mods; just "Is this allowed" or "I don't think X is acceptable" are usually good enough.

If you want to report something that happens on the forums, you should create a report thread in the Moderation forum. Just be sure to quote or link to the post you're reporting.

Anything that happens in TGs or regional message boards should be reported with a Getting Help Request. I've never actually done that, but including who you're reporting and a basic explanation of why or what they did should be enough for the Mods to figure it out.

Also, the fact that SA is following SM to other threads and trying to get him banned there could very well be considered Harassment/Griefing, if SM wants to report that as well.

[South Americanastan]

I saw that, but I had seen another one of these before. So, I thought this text would be fine, but I'll not use it in the future.

He says it's in his thread and he banned SM, so he is curcumvating the ban by posting here with a GA post quoted. I want to get mods to solve this, can you tell me how I should proceed?

Just to be clear, I'm not a Mod and have absolutely no authority whatsoever to tell you how you can or can't post. I'm just suggesting that it would probably be safer not to use redtext in this context, since that is a thing Mods do. If you want more clarity or a more definite answer, you can always make a question thread in Moderation.

As for South Ameriblah, he has absolutely no authority over anything that happens outside his thread. Period. He has no right to tell you, or anyone else, what they can post in your thread, or any other thread. Quoting someone's posts from one thread to another is not against the rules (at least, not that I've ever heard), and I suspect SA knows that, which is why he went to you instead of to the Mods. Evading a ban (see also: Thread Bans & OP Powers) is only a thing if SM continued posting in SA's thread after being told to leave.

I obviously don't know what he said to you in TGs, but I suspect that it may fall into the category of using Mods as weapons and/or impersonating a Mod. But you don't have to know exactly what rule has been broken to report conduct you believe may be against the rules to the Mods; just "Is this allowed" or "I don't think X is acceptable" are usually good enough.

If you want to report something that happens on the forums, you should create a report thread in the Moderation forum. Just be sure to quote or link to the post you're reporting.

Anything that happens in TGs or regional message boards should be reported with a Getting Help Request. I've never actually done that, but including who you're reporting and a basic explanation of why or what they did should be enough for the Mods to figure it out.

Also, the fact that SA is following SM to other threads and trying to get him banned there could very well be considered Harassment/Griefing, if SM wants to report that as well.

Hey genius, I asked him for a favor to help me maintain control over my own thread. At NO POINT did I threaten action under site rules and even actively tried to keep the matter away from moderation when the idea was brought up. I have not tried to ban SM from any other threads than GA, and my only request was that Congo prevent him from quoting posts in GA as a favor.

I don’t know what your problem is with me (And if you do have a problem with me, take it up with me like a man/woman rather than trying to fuck with me via other people) but I’d prefer you figure out the facts before trying to paint me as some Big Bad intent on restricting other people’s freedom.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

Just to be clear, I'm not a Mod and have absolutely no authority whatsoever to tell you how you can or can't post. I'm just suggesting that it would probably be safer not to use redtext in this context, since that is a thing Mods do. If you want more clarity or a more definite answer, you can always make a question thread in Moderation.

As for South Ameriblah, he has absolutely no authority over anything that happens outside his thread. Period. He has no right to tell you, or anyone else, what they can post in your thread, or any other thread. Quoting someone's posts from one thread to another is not against the rules (at least, not that I've ever heard), and I suspect SA knows that, which is why he went to you instead of to the Mods. Evading a ban (see also: Thread Bans & OP Powers) is only a thing if SM continued posting in SA's thread after being told to leave.

I obviously don't know what he said to you in TGs, but I suspect that it may fall into the category of using Mods as weapons and/or impersonating a Mod. But you don't have to know exactly what rule has been broken to report conduct you believe may be against the rules to the Mods; just "Is this allowed" or "I don't think X is acceptable" are usually good enough.

If you want to report something that happens on the forums, you should create a report thread in the Moderation forum. Just be sure to quote or link to the post you're reporting.

Anything that happens in TGs or regional message boards should be reported with a Getting Help Request. I've never actually done that, but including who you're reporting and a basic explanation of why or what they did should be enough for the Mods to figure it out.

Also, the fact that SA is following SM to other threads and trying to get him banned there could very well be considered Harassment/Griefing, if SM wants to report that as well.

Hey genius, I asked him for a favor to help me maintain control over my own thread. At NO POINT did I threaten action under site rules and even actively tried to keep the matter away from moderation when the idea was brought up. I have not tried to ban SM from any other threads than GA, and my only request was that Congo prevent him from quoting posts in GA as a favor.

I don’t know what your problem is with me (And if you do have a problem with me, take it up with me like a man/woman rather than trying to fuck with me via other people) but I’d prefer you figure out the facts before trying to paint me as some Big Bad intent on restricting other people’s freedom.

Sorry. What? You got someone to pass a thread warning, something for enforcement, as a favour. Sound right to you?

[Awesome Imperium]

Hey genius, I asked him for a favor to help me maintain control over my own thread. At NO POINT did I threaten action under site rules and even actively tried to keep the matter away from moderation when the idea was brought up. I have not tried to ban SM from any other threads than GA, and my only request was that Congo prevent him from quoting posts in GA as a favor.

I don’t know what your problem is with me (And if you do have a problem with me, take it up with me like a man/woman rather than trying to fuck with me via other people) but I’d prefer you figure out the facts before trying to paint me as some Big Bad intent on restricting other people’s freedom.

Sorry. What? You got someone to pass a thread warning, something for enforcement, as a favour. Sound right to you?

Well to be fair, SM could've put in a link to the post instead of quoting. Courtesy and stuff but also quoting from another thread is more of an OOC reference than to be used in IC.

[South Americanastan]

Hey genius, I asked him for a favor to help me maintain control over my own thread. At NO POINT did I threaten action under site rules and even actively tried to keep the matter away from moderation when the idea was brought up. I have not tried to ban SM from any other threads than GA, and my only request was that Congo prevent him from quoting posts in GA as a favor.

I don’t know what your problem is with me (And if you do have a problem with me, take it up with me like a man/woman rather than trying to fuck with me via other people) but I’d prefer you figure out the facts before trying to paint me as some Big Bad intent on restricting other people’s freedom.

Sorry. What? You got someone to pass a thread warning, something for enforcement, as a favour. Sound right to you?

A. Thread warnings are not and never have been a site enforcement method.
B. I asked him to prevent letting people banned from GA quote things from GA as a favor, and if that takes the form of thread warnings, so be it. If he wanted me to prevent people banned from III from quoting things from there in GA, I would do the same.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

Sorry. What? You got someone to pass a thread warning, something for enforcement, as a favour. Sound right to you?

A. Thread warnings are not and never have been a site enforcement method.
B. I asked him to prevent letting people banned from GA quote things from GA as a favor, and if that takes the form of thread warnings, so be it. If he wanted me to prevent people banned from III from quoting things from there in GA, I would do the same.

Fine. My bad wording. Something for enforcement of thread rules, as a favour. If you wanted, you could have just asked him to change the rules, but, oh no, that would mean the Southeast Marajarbia wouldn’t get a warning. So you went ahead with asking for a thread warning for a rule not in the OP.

[South Americanastan]

A. Thread warnings are not and never have been a site enforcement method.
B. I asked him to prevent letting people banned from GA quote things from GA as a favor, and if that takes the form of thread warnings, so be it. If he wanted me to prevent people banned from III from quoting things from there in GA, I would do the same.

Fine. My bad wording. Something for enforcement of thread rules, as a favour. If you wanted, you could have just asked him to change the rules, but, oh no, that would mean the Southeast Marajarbia wouldn’t get a warning. So you went ahead with asking for a thread warning for a rule not in the OP.

I asked him to prevent it, plain and simple. How he goes about preventing it is not my fault.

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

If nothing else, that means Congo should change rules in the OP, and revoke the warning. SEM didn’t know it was a rule to start with, so it’s not exactly fair to penalise him for that.

[South Americanastan]

If nothing else, that means Congo should change rules in the OP, and revoke the warning. SEM didn’t know it was a rule to start with, so it’s not exactly fair to penalise him for that.

Then why the fuck are you arguing with me about this.

[Mitheldalond]

Fine. My bad wording. Something for enforcement of thread rules, as a favour. If you wanted, you could have just asked him to change the rules, but, oh no, that would mean the Southeast Marajarbia wouldn’t get a warning. So you went ahead with asking for a thread warning for a rule not in the OP.

I asked him to prevent it, plain and simple. How he goes about preventing it is not my fault.

And you have absolutely no right to do that. You don't get to control what people post outside of "your" thread. You don't even get to control what people post inside your own thread. You only get to control whether someone is allowed to post or not. The only people who have any authority over what someone says in someone else's thread are the Mods.

[Mitheldalond]

Sorry. What? You got someone to pass a thread warning, something for enforcement, as a favour. Sound right to you?

Well to be fair, SM could've put in a link to the post instead of quoting. Courtesy and stuff but also quoting from another thread is more of an OOC reference than to be used in IC.

Click the word "wrote" up next to where it says "Awesome Imperium" at the top of this quote.

[South Americanastan]

I asked him to prevent it, plain and simple. How he goes about preventing it is not my fault.

And you have absolutely no right to do that. You don't get to control what people post outside of "your" thread. You don't even get to control what people post inside your own thread. You only get to control whether someone is allowed to post or not. The only people who have any authority over what someone says in someone else's thread are the Mods.

I’m asking him to as a favor, not forcing him to. Asking people if they could do something to help me out is something I am entirely within my right to do. Given your interactions with other RPers in the past, I wouldn’t expect you to know what asking is.

Again, if you have a problem with me, just take it up with me rather than doing it via pedantic BS like this or trying to sic moderation on me for “mod impersonation” like you did that one time.

EDIT: Also, I am entirely within my rights to control what is posted in my own threads. For someone so keen on using moderation, I’m surprised you never read the section about what powers OPs have in their threads.

[Europe a Nation]

I saw that, but I had seen another one of these before. So, I thought this text would be fine, but I'll not use it in the future.

He says it's in his thread and he banned SM, so he is curcumvating the ban by posting here with a GA post quoted. I want to get mods to solve this, can you tell me how I should proceed?

Just to be clear, I'm not a Mod and have absolutely no authority whatsoever to tell you how you can or can't post. I'm just suggesting that it would probably be safer not to use redtext in this context, since that is a thing Mods do. If you want more clarity or a more definite answer, you can always make a question thread in Moderation.

As for South Ameriblah, he has absolutely no authority over anything that happens outside his thread. Period. He has no right to tell you, or anyone else, what they can post in your thread, or any other thread. Quoting someone's posts from one thread to another is not against the rules (at least, not that I've ever heard), and I suspect SA knows that, which is why he went to you instead of to the Mods. Evading a ban (see also: Thread Bans & OP Powers) is only a thing if SM continued posting in SA's thread after being told to leave.

I obviously don't know what he said to you in TGs, but I suspect that it may fall into the category of using Mods as weapons and/or impersonating a Mod. But you don't have to know exactly what rule has been broken to report conduct you believe may be against the rules to the Mods; just "Is this allowed" or "I don't think X is acceptable" are usually good enough.

If you want to report something that happens on the forums, you should create a report thread in the Moderation forum. Just be sure to quote or link to the post you're reporting.

Anything that happens in TGs or regional message boards should be reported with a Getting Help Request. I've never actually done that, but including who you're reporting and a basic explanation of why or what they did should be enough for the Mods to figure it out.

Also, the fact that SA is following SM to other threads and trying to get him banned there could very well be considered Harassment/Griefing, if SM wants to report that as well.

Mithe, I have a serious question. Why don't you RP as good as you write?

[CONGOlese republic]

And you have absolutely no right to do that. You don't get to control what people post outside of "your" thread. You don't even get to control what people post inside your own thread. You only get to control whether someone is allowed to post or not. The only people who have any authority over what someone says in someone else's thread are the Mods.

I’m asking him to as a favor, not forcing him to. Asking people if they could do something to help me out is something I am entirely within my right to do. Given your interactions with other RPers in the past, I wouldn’t expect you to know what asking is.

Again, if you have a problem with me, just take it up with me rather than doing it via pedantic BS like this or trying to sic moderation on me for “mod impersonation” like you did that one time.

EDIT: Also, I am entirely within my rights to control what is posted in my own threads. For someone so keen on using moderation, I’m surprised you never read the section about what powers OPs have in their threads.

I have accepted my wrongness.

SA's correct on his point. I feel I'm also

SA is saying that they are circumvating the ban. But factually, the nation is quoting another nation's post. He implied on multiple instances 'not interacting with GA Affairs'. The only problem I have with that is the wording. What does he mean by GA? I just don't understand if GA is like the overlord of II or these nations or something.

Although, I have taken his point, because I have no more intention to argue with him.

[Vikanias]

I’m asking him to as a favor, not forcing him to. Asking people if they could do something to help me out is something I am entirely within my right to do. Given your interactions with other RPers in the past, I wouldn’t expect you to know what asking is.

Again, if you have a problem with me, just take it up with me rather than doing it via pedantic BS like this or trying to sic moderation on me for “mod impersonation” like you did that one time.

EDIT: Also, I am entirely within my rights to control what is posted in my own threads. For someone so keen on using moderation, I’m surprised you never read the section about what powers OPs have in their threads.

I have accepted my wrongness.

SA's correct on his point. I feel I'm also

SA is saying that they are circumvating the ban. But factually, the nation is quoting another nation's post. He implied on multiple instances 'not interacting with GA Affairs'. The only problem I have with that is the wording. What does he mean by GA? I just don't understand if GA is like the overlord of II or these nations or something.

Although, I have taken his point, because I have no more intention to argue with him.

Perhaps some cooler heads can prevail here?

What SA is trying to say is he and many of us think that III is being used for people who have banned from GA to circumvent their bans and still interacts with peoples nations even if they didn’t want to interact with them after the ban. If the nation wants to continue the rp SA has no control over that and hopefully thats what SA is truing to say to you. Continuing and do not take this in a bad way III has become the GA for people who got banned from GA and do not take this in a negative way but when I look at the pages majority of your people are people who got banned from GA, like SM, Mithe, NG etc. And I see no problem with this it’s your thread, you decide who stays or goes. However referring to my first point it seems like some, like SM for example is still clinging on to GCN-KTO Cold War that ended back in May with no one in the KTO’s permission to continue RPing with their stuff. And that’s a problem, III shouldn’t be a place where people RP others stuff and get away with it because it’s a different thread. It’s not in the NS rules but threads especially ones with similarities like III and GA should respect each other and what each thread wants, of course they shouldn’t bend the knees when the other demands something but there should be at least some common curtesy to respect the wishes of the other thread.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

[CONGOlese republic]

I have accepted my wrongness.

SA's correct on his point. I feel I'm also

SA is saying that they are circumvating the ban. But factually, the nation is quoting another nation's post. He implied on multiple instances 'not interacting with GA Affairs'. The only problem I have with that is the wording. What does he mean by GA? I just don't understand if GA is like the overlord of II or these nations or something.

Although, I have taken his point, because I have no more intention to argue with him.

Perhaps some cooler heads can prevail here?

What SA is trying to say is he and many of us think that III is being used for people who have banned from GA to circumvent their bans and still interacts with peoples nations even if they didn’t want to interact with them after the ban. If the nation wants to continue the rp SA has no control over that and hopefully thats what SA is truing to say to you. Continuing and do not take this in a bad way III has become the GA for people who got banned from GA and do not take this in a negative way but when I look at the pages majority of your people are people who got banned from GA, like SM, Mithe, NG etc. And I see no problem with this it’s your thread, you decide who stays or goes. However referring to my first point it seems like some, like SM for example is still clinging on to GCN-KTO Cold War that ended back in May with no one in the KTO’s permission to continue RPing with their stuff. And that’s a problem, III shouldn’t be a place where people RP others stuff and get away with it because it’s a different thread. It’s not in the NS rules but threads especially ones with similarities like III and GA should respect each other and what each thread wants, of course they shouldn’t bend the knees when the other demands something but there should be at least some common curtesy to respect the wishes of the other thread.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.

Countesia's alright RPing with SM, he has been doing so for a while due to a Diplomatic crisis. But his point is that they quote GA. So yeah, idk

[New Georgia and the North Pacific]

Just gonna mention. I am PMT, so Congo, if you don’t want to RP, just say so.