Oh yeah? Then why are there still monkeys ... no, wait, I mean, why do we still have snow?
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by Tarsonis » Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:54 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
We have no obligation to make immigration easier, nobody has a right to come here.
Kind of a shitty attitude from a country made up of people who invited themselves here. I mean, it was enough of our identity that there's a thing about it inscribed on the tablet of the giant statue in the New York harbor.
by Reverend Norv » Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:54 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
We have no obligation to make immigration easier, nobody has a right to come here.
Kind of a shitty attitude from a country made up of people who invited themselves here. I mean, it was enough of our identity that there's a thing about it inscribed on the tablet of the giant statue in the New York harbor.
For really, I think that the poorest he that is in England hath a life to live as the greatest he. And therefore truly, Sir, I think it's clear that every man that is to live under a Government ought first by his own consent to put himself under that Government. And I do think that the poorest man in England is not at all bound in a strict sense to that Government that he hath not had a voice to put himself under.
Col. Thomas Rainsborough, Putney Debates, 1647
A God who let us prove His existence would be an idol.
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by San Lumen » Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:59 pm
Tarsonis wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Kind of a shitty attitude from a country made up of people who invited themselves here. I mean, it was enough of our identity that there's a thing about it inscribed on the tablet of the giant statue in the New York harbor.
It's not an attitude, it's merely a fact and one that needs to be acknowledged if there's to be any meaningful discussion on immigration reform is to be had: no nation has an obligation to let anybody immigrate into their country. Every country has a right to sovereign control of its own borders.
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by Tarsonis » Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:15 pm
San Lumen wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
It's not an attitude, it's merely a fact and one that needs to be acknowledged if there's to be any meaningful discussion on immigration reform is to be had: no nation has an obligation to let anybody immigrate into their country. Every country has a right to sovereign control of its own borders.
I don't think anyone here disputes that a country has a right to control its borders. What is your proposal for curbing illegal immigration?
by Greater Miami Shores 3 » Fri Sep 30, 2022 6:15 pm
San Lumen wrote:Tarsonis wrote:
It's not an attitude, it's merely a fact and one that needs to be acknowledged if there's to be any meaningful discussion on immigration reform is to be had: no nation has an obligation to let anybody immigrate into their country. Every country has a right to sovereign control of its own borders.
I don't think anyone here disputes that a country has a right to control its borders. What is your proposal for curbing illegal immigration?
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Umeria wrote:The best way to decrease illegal immigration is to stop fueling the drug war.
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