Christian Discussion Thread XII: Soter? I hardly know her!

[Salus Maior]

People still join the Klan?

Apparently so

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

[Prima Scriptura]

Apparently so

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

I mean. younger Catholic white supremacists typically have their own thing, the Nick Fuentes cult is an example.

[Salus Maior]

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

I mean. younger Catholic white supremacists typically have their own thing, the Nick Fuentes cult is an example.

Yeah, exactly. I don't know a whole lot about Fuentes though, aside from the fact he's an asshole.

Studying far right groups is fascinating.

[Tarsonis]

Apparently so

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

How are you a history major and not a nerd?

[Fahran]

Apparently so

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

The Klan doesn't really wield the influence they once did in white supremacist circles. They've mostly been supplanted by Neo-Nazi organizations, prison gangs, or right-wing militias at this point. There are maybe 3,000 Klansmen left nation-wide. And good riddance.

[Saiwania]

Which currently existing Christian denomination/culture best exemplifies the ideal warrior in people's minds? The Church which could make for the best successors overall- to the Crusader cause? I'm tired of this "religion of the meek" reputation Christianity has been stuck with for a long time, and instead pine for something which is truly "martial" in outlook and practice.

[Tarsonis]

Which currently existing Christian denomination/culture best exemplifies the ideal warrior in people's minds? The Church which could make for the best successors overall- to the Crusader cause? I'm tired of this "religion of the meek" reputation Christianity has been stuck with for a long time, and instead pine for something which is truly "martial" in outlook and practice.

Sounds like Christianity ain't for you then

[Salus Maior]

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

How are you a history major and not a nerd?

I get that outlet through Dungeons and Dragons.

Had a 3 year long campaign with my dorm friends in college.

[Salus Maior]

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

The Klan doesn't really wield the influence they once did in white supremacist circles. They've mostly been supplanted by Neo-Nazi organizations, prison gangs, or right-wing militias at this point. There are maybe 3,000 Klansmen left nation-wide. And good riddance.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I mean, wearing bedsheets pales in comparison to Hugo Boss. And aesthetics are probably one of the big reasons fascists get converts.

[Prima Scriptura]

How are you a history major and not a nerd?

I get that outlet through Dungeons and Dragons.

Had a 3 year long campaign with my dorm friends in college.

I never played Dungeons and dragons. I never had the friends to play the game.. also, I was interested in “other stuff” when growing up, especially during my teen years.

[Salus Maior]

Which currently existing Christian denomination/culture best exemplifies the ideal warrior in people's minds? The Church which could make for the best successors overall- to the Crusader cause? I'm tired of this "religion of the meek" reputation Christianity has been stuck with for a long time, and instead pine for something which is truly "martial" in outlook and practice.

Even within the Christian philosophy of force, elements of humility and sacrificial service are paramount, and the focus is on limiting the use of force. I'm sorry but there's not much of a comparison between the Chivalric knight and a viking raider, and the latter is clearly more your style.

[Prima Scriptura]

The Klan doesn't really wield the influence they once did in white supremacist circles. They've mostly been supplanted by Neo-Nazi organizations, prison gangs, or right-wing militias at this point. There are maybe 3,000 Klansmen left nation-wide. And good riddance.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I mean, wearing bedsheets pales in comparison to Hugo Boss. And aesthetics are probably one of the big reasons fascists get converts.

I’m surprised you nor Tar has brought up the Capirote comparison

[Salus Maior]

I get that outlet through Dungeons and Dragons.

Had a 3 year long campaign with my dorm friends in college.

I never played Dungeons and dragons. I never had the friends to play the game.. also, I was interested in “other stuff” when growing up, especially during my teen years.

It's pretty notoriously difficult to get a consistent group together for the game, I don't really expect to play a large game like that again. College was easy because there's a lot of nerds who are all in the same place for a long time.

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, that's what I thought.

I mean, wearing bedsheets pales in comparison to Hugo Boss. And aesthetics are probably one of the big reasons fascists get converts.

I’m surprised you nor Tar has brought up the Capirote comparison

I mean, why would we? It's really not related to the KKK aside from a certain aesthetic similarity with the pointy hoods.

[Prima Scriptura]

I never played Dungeons and dragons. I never had the friends to play the game.. also, I was interested in “other stuff” when growing up, especially during my teen years.

It's pretty notoriously difficult to get a consistent group together for the game, I don't really expect to play a large game like that again. College was easy because there's a lot of nerds who are all in the same place for a long time.

I don’t know, I think it’s pretty based for Spanish clergy to say “we’re not going to change our traditional outfit because racist Protestants in America co-opted them”

[Salus Maior]

It's pretty notoriously difficult to get a consistent group together for the game, I don't really expect to play a large game like that again. College was easy because there's a lot of nerds who are all in the same place for a long time.

I don’t know, I think it’s pretty based for Spanish clergy to say “we’re not going to change our traditional outfit because racist Protestants in America co-opted them”

Oh yes, it's good that they're keeping with it.

[Prima Scriptura]

I don’t know, I think it’s pretty based for Spanish clergy to say “we’re not going to change our traditional outfit because racist Protestants in America co-opted them”

Oh yes, it's good that they're keeping with it.

It’s interesting that this the origins of the dunce hat

[Sordhau]

What is Christianity's take on white supremacy co-opting the religion as "God's chosen people"?

All are equal before the eyes of God. But racial supremacists are no more honest in their religious beliefs than they are in their political ones, and Fascists aren't known for their honesty.

People still join the Klan?

Please, they prefer the term "NRA".

The NRA are shills for the gun control lobby but calling them white supremacists is pretty fucking sick and not remotely true in the slightest. If you're going to criticize sellouts and charlatans, then use valid criticisms instead of making shit up.

Apparently so

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

You gotta admit "Grand Wizard" and "Grand Dragon" sound pretty badass tbh. It's a shame they're associated with such vile people.

Idk, they seem pretty old school and not in a cool way.

If I were a racist I'd at least join a cooler looking bunch of racists not run by wizards.

The Klan doesn't really wield the influence they once did in white supremacist circles. They've mostly been supplanted by Neo-Nazi organizations, prison gangs, or right-wing militias at this point. There are maybe 3,000 Klansmen left nation-wide. And good riddance.

That's 3,000 too many.

Which currently existing Christian denomination/culture best exemplifies the ideal warrior in people's minds? The Church which could make for the best successors overall- to the Crusader cause? I'm tired of this "religion of the meek" reputation Christianity has been stuck with for a long time, and instead pine for something which is truly "martial" in outlook and practice.

Sounds like Christianity ain't for you then

Perhaps the Cult of Ares would be better suited to his tastes?

[Myrensis]

One can give an educated speculation that Pope Benedict doesn’t like some of the stuff that Pope Francis does, but he’s old-school in the fact that he bites his tongue and does not criticize the pope publicly. This used to be the conservative approach during Pope John Paul II

Well, he retired because, as far as I'm aware, he wanted to spend the rest of his life in contemplation so I think it's not so much a question of biting his tongue out of old-fashioned respect as it is living out the monastic ideals that he chose to step down from his position to be able to follow.

My impression was that he retired because he's old, and had health issues, and didn't want to go the JP2 route of having a very visible physical and mental decline while still being the face of the Church.

[New Visayan Islands]

What is Christianity's take on white supremacy co-opting the religion as "God's chosen people"?

Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

I am not aware of any non-Catholic sources with a similar weight, so feel free to provide the same.

[Prima Scriptura]

What is Christianity's take on white supremacy co-opting the religion as "God's chosen people"?

Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.

I am not aware of any non-Catholic sources with a similar weight, so feel free to provide the same.

I wonder if Nick Fuentes has read this.

[Salus Maior]

I am not aware of any non-Catholic sources with a similar weight, so feel free to provide the same.

I wonder if Nick Fuentes has read this.

Idk, he comes off as the kind of guy who would avoid studying the liberal arts because it has the word "liberal" in them.

[Salus Maior]

I am not aware of any non-Catholic sources with a similar weight, so feel free to provide the same.

I wonder if Nick Fuentes has read this.

Idk, he comes off as the kind of guy who would avoid studying the liberal arts because it has the word "liberal" in them.

[Concejos Unidos]

I'm not Christian, but I've recently been reading some of Tolstoy's religious/political works, and I know his absolute Christian pacifism is pretty theologically heterodox and controversial. I'm curious for what the mainline theological critiques of his thinking are.

[Tarsonis]

I wonder if Nick Fuentes has read this.

Idk, he comes off as the kind of guy who would avoid studying the liberal arts because it has the word "liberal" in them.

nice