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NS Nation Name: Dentali
Character Name: Glen Mitchell Anderson
Character Gender: M
Character Age: 51
Character Date of Birth: November
Character Position/Role/Job:
1941-1946 US Air Force Captain
1946 - 1950 Lawyer
1950 - 1954 District Attorney Multnomah County
1954 - 1958 Congressman Oregon’s 2nd Congressional District
1958 - 1966 Governor of Oregon
1965 - YAF Board Member

Character Country/State of Birth: Nebraska
Character State of Residence: Oregon
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Faceclaim: Sargent Shriver
Main Strengths:

Red Lion of the West: In an era with few Republican heavyweights, Glen has stood strong in the west for a decade. He stuck with the party in 1964 and its nominee, providing one of the few points of light for them and in 1966 campaigned tirelessly to fuel the Republican Comeback.

No Labels: Rather than allow himself to be a ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’, Glen has only described himself as a ‘citizen-governor’, or a ‘modern Republican’. He has managed to keep from getting too narrowly defined by the media, the democrats, or by his own allies, and has campaign for Republicans of all stripes across the country.

Record of Success: Anderson is without a doubt a successful and popular former Governor whose policies are well cherished and regarded by his constituents. Many states and Governors have looked to his administration for inspiration to model themselves on.

Main Weaknesses:

Out of A Job: Term limited as Governor, Glen doesn’t currently have a position by which to gain influence or attention.

Pockets Empty: Oregon is not a land of millionaires or donors. While Anderson has plenty of friends in the state, its just not suitable as a donor base by which to run a national campaign.

No Labels: Keeping himself from getting nailed down on the liberal/conservative debate has its downsides. The best donors and most fanatical supporters are ideologues skewing to either side of the spectrum, and while he hasn’t upset any of them, he isn’t exactly their first choice.



Biography: Born 1917 in Lincoln, Nebraska, Glen Mitchell Anderson was the youngest of 5 children born to Malcolm, a store clerk, and Shelby Anderson. In 1929 Malcolm lost his job in the Great Depression and moved his family around for a number of years before settling in Dallas, Oregon in 1933. Once his family was stable again Glen made the most of his high school years, becoming an excellent student and a decent guard on the High School Basketball team where he would earn a varsity letter, all the while devoting his time to earning extra money for his family doing small jobs around town. His senior year saw him elected student body President and be accepted to Yale.

He attended Yale in 1939 and was a good, well regarded student and a member of the basketball team. It was there he also began to make cultural connections outside his bubble. Namely, he began to meet and interact with African Americans and Hispanic Americans. He began to be able to evaluate them and I began to recognize that some minority Americans are better and more capable than lots of white americans. And he became convinced that they had to learn to know each other and worked on campus with a number of civil rights oriented groups.

One week after Pearl Harbor he would drop out of Yale and enlist in the military in 1941. He was assigned to the 7th Air Force, 5th Bombardment Group and was deployed to the Hawaiian Air Depot at Hickam which served as a transit supply, repair, and modification center for force units scattered all the way to Australia. He worked as an engineer and mechanic mostly working assembly, flight-testing, and delivery to forward-deployed combat units. He traveled with the group as it deployed throughout the southwest Pacific, working on B-17 and B-24 Aircraft until ending up in the Philippines in 1945.

During the nearly four years of war, the group participated in 10 major campaigns, flew more than 1,000 combat missions and earned two Distinguished Unit Citations and the Philippine Presidential Unit Citation. During this time, its members accumulated more than 13,300 medals and decorations.

He returned home in early 1946 being discharged with the rank of captain, marrying his highschool sweetheart Melanie Scheffield, the two had their first child in 1948. Glen remained in the Air Force Reserve until 1948, he would graduate from Yale in 1946 being admitted to the Oregon Bar later that year. He would be active in VFW halls and veterans affairs during his time in private practice, as well as being active in local Republican politics and the movement to Draft Eisenhower as a nominee. Being a well regarded and respected attorney, veteran, and notable republican made him a potential future star of the local Republican Party.

In 1950 he was elected the District Attorney of Multnomah county, where he garnered a law and order reputation, though was noted to be much more favorable and lenient to African Americans than many others at that time. He would be elected to Congress in 1954 for Oregon’s 2nd district filling an unexpected vacancy. Just as Eisenhower had been the nation’s “citizen soldier,” Anderson, called himself the “citizen-politician” and espoused such a populist theme frequently during the campaign. As a Congressman he was treated as a backbencher but did his part strongly advocating and supporting the Eisenhower Administration.


1958

Oregon Republican Party leaders believed that Anderson could appeal to both Democrats and Republicans and revitalize the party, while Glen realized his ambitions in Congress would be going nowhere. Seeing an opportunity they decided to take on the Democratic incumbent, Anderson balanced his ticket with a more conservative, traditional choice for lieutenant governor and went to work.

The election proved to be one of the most acrimonious and bitter in state history. Dwight Eisenhower campaigned for both the Republican Gubernatorial and Senate candidates, while Democratic heavyweights campaigned on the Democratic side. The Gubernatorial race saw the first television debate in the state’s history, and viewers saw Anderson calmly weather attacks from the more heated and impulsive Democratic nominee. This stylistically appealed to the more conservative voters in the state, and the GOP won the Governor's race by a wide margin, taking 55.3% of the vote, at the same time this was tapered with the Democrats gaining a majority in both chambers of the legislature for the first time since 1878.

In Office he supported many of the legislative views of Democratic President John F. Kennedy on a small majority of congressional votes, which hurt his chances of going far in his own party. He was liberal on civil rights, social security benefits, supported aid to dependent children, and supported an increase in the minimum wage. Considering himself to be an "internationalist," Anderson favored the creation of the Peace Corps and the participation of the United States in many international organizations. However, he was conservative on matters of fiscal spending and first decided on a basis of if there was a need to be met by the government before supporting the commitment of tax dollars.

In his first eighteen months in office, Anderson had appointed 19 of the top 100 state jobs to minority applicants. During his first 4 years "unemployment went from 7.5 percent to 3.6 percent," and the "average blue-collar weekly paycheck increased nearly $23 over the four years,". Anderson increased state government spending to a then-record $5.21 billion over his term, compared to $3.78 billion by his predecessor. To resolve a fiscal crisis, Anderson signed a bill increasing the state sales tax from 4 to 5 percent and raising taxes on liquor and cigarettes, although the tax increases dropped the governor's popularity rating.

But the real passion of Anderson during his tenure was Education. He also signed into law sweeping reforms in the state's education system, which created the state community college system, the state board of education and the state Higher Education Assistance Agency, and he established a program to promote the state in national and international markets and increase the attractiveness of the state's products and services.

Anderson’s programs generally received good legislative support and a steady stream of bills were signed into law. Major reforms were created in the educational system, not the least of which was the creation of a community college system, a State Board of Education, and the Oregon Higher Education Assistance Agency that would prove to be of valuable help to student access to higher education for decades to come. The governor called for realignment of the state's legislative districts, a Department of Mental Health, and the creation of a Council of Science and Technology after advocating new technical training programs. In addition, Anderson initiated a program to promote Oregon in national and world markets and make the state more attractive to industries and buyers of Oregon products and services. He received funding for the Oregon Industrial Development Authority and created the Governor's Committee of 10,000 Oregonians as ambassadors to sell the state's potential.

His tenure would also see the Portland School Protests in Portland, Oregon, against de facto segregation in public schools. These protests would lead him to meet with the NAACP, Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr, and other figures; after which he would create the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission and the Greater Portland Movement which ended de facto segregation of public schools and worked to integrate communities across Oregon. And in November of 1961 Anderson attended a speech by Dr King at Portland State College to commemorate the centennial of the Civil War.

During his first year in office, Anderson cut costs and decreased governmental waste and inefficiencies. He brought in private industry experts, who worked at low state salaries for six months, to apply regular business practices to the state government. Anderson Would tell future audiences proudly how he had saved the state the entire cost of a new office building, which was no longer needed. Anderson created the stricter use of state automobiles and restricted out-of-state travel for state employees unless there was proven need. He had saved the state the cost of hiring seasonal workers by staggering the renewal dates of licenses. Then he had saved millions in state telephone bills by taking advantage of a free program to improve phone efficiencies. He had cut the growth in government employees by not hiring replacements for retiring or disabled workers. Anderson even sold the former Governor’s state airplane. Then he had his office staff save even more money by, instead of throwing out the previous governor’s stationery and buying new Anderson stationery, just crossing-out the former Governor’s name and writing in Anderson’s name by hand. Another example was the Oregon highway department, for whom Reagan had appointed the first Asian American as a commissioner, was doing thirty percent more miles of paving with eleven percent fewer employees.

Anderson also championed and expanded private programs. One particular program, started by private businessman H.C. McClellan, before Andersonwas elected, sent employment recruiters to Portland for the purpose of finding jobs for the unemployed. Anderson expanded the program statewide. Anderson also proposed a new method of selecting judicial appointments, which moved the process away from patronage and into a new system, which rated potential judge appointees on a point system.

His success in office and overall popularity with both sides of the aisle saw him win 56% of the vote in 1962 becoming the state’s first two-term governor in the 20th century and continued calling himself a “Citizen-Politician” or “Citizen-Governor”.

His second term saw him mostly continuing the policies of his first term, supporting the traditional industries of timber and agriculture, but prioritizing industry, transportation and education. He worked to diversify the states economy by recruiting industrial development and holding trade missions. To that end, he founded the Oregon Graduate Center in 1963, a graduate level school which was essential to attracting new industries and retaining highly skilled workers.

Anderson was vocally pro life and was in favor of the death penalty albeit in limited usage. Despite being a prominent evangelical Christian he was against government sponsored school prayer.

1964

During the 1964 Presidential election Anderson supported Rockefeller initially but became somewhat disillusioned in practice as he saw Nelson as increasingly incapable and impotent on the national stage. Regardless he was active at the convention in support of Rockefeller and the moderate-liberal wing of the Republican Party. When it became clear Rockefeller had given up on the nomination a Minor movement to draft Anderson began, though he never encouraged it. He did receive votes on the firstballot as a ‘favorite son’ of the Oregon delegation. At the convention he fought for a statement to condemn extremism on the left and right, as well as a strong civil rights plank that would pledge to eliminate discrimination at state, local, and private levels. Both positions were endorsed by former President Eisenhower, but both were defeated easily.

After Goldwater won the nomination Anderson did not initially endorse, specifically over his lack of support for Civil Rights. But after a month of discussion he decided it was better to endorse the alternative to LBJ and supported the Goldwater campaign, campaigning vigorously. Within six weeks of Goldwater’s defeat, an independent group supporting Anderson’s potential presidential campaign had already raised $100,000 and founded Friends of Glen Anderson and Anderson hired the Spencer-Roberts Group to explore and set up a run in 1968.


1965

Anderson was expected to remain in Oregon during each week, and during the time period of 1966-1968, he continued to give many speeches within Oregon on state issues. But weekends often were free for the governor, except when the Legislature was in session and for which Anderson had to stay in-state. Anderson would plan visits, mainly during those free weekends, which would all fit in with the stealth presidential campaign: the primary states, meetings of governors, and speeches to major public policy organizations and media interviews, all of which would enhance his being seen as a major national political figure and thus natural contender for the 1968 presidency.

Seeing the power of college students he immediately took a position on the board of Young Americans for Freedom, which saw a branch founded in 1967 “Young Americans for Anderson”.


Spencer-Roberts suggested that Anderson begin to make speeches away from heavily Democratic big cities and concentrate on smaller population centers. Anderson’s format was a speech on a topic in support of a candidate, audience questions, and then press conferences where Anderson demonstrated his being “more comfortable with reporters than most conservative Republicans.”

Among his notable speeches in 1965 were at the New Haven Arena on September 28, 1965 as guest of honor for a rally by the Connecticut Republican Citizens Committee, which had not been recognized officially by the GOP State Central Committee. Reagan then flew to the Detroit Economic Club to give a speech on economic policy.


Unless there were overriding concerns back in Oregon or other major schedule conflicts, Reagan would attend every governors conference from Inauguration Day in 1958 until the end of his term.



1966

On March 28, 1966, Anderson gave a short, domestic-themed talk at the Republican Party Founders Day celebration in Lincoln, Nebraska.

During his final state of the state address he arranged for a small state flag to be flying, Governor Anderson wondered with his audience, “If, in glancing aloft, some of you were puzzled by the small size of our State Flag … there is an explanation. That flag was carried into battle in Vietnam by young men of Oregon. Many will not be coming home. One did—Sergeant Robert Howell, grievously wounded. He brought that flag back…It might remind us of the need to give our sons and daughters a cause to believe in and banners to follow.”

The 66 campaign would be a test of his organization's muscles, finding strength and weaknesses throughout the country. They would be sending direct mail to registered Republicans, organizing a grassroots activist volunteer base, and succeeding in newly registering some 50,000 African American so they could vote for Republicans and Anderson. In the year of 1966 Anderson would travel 30,000 miles, visit 82 Congressional Districts and Raise $1.5 million dollars in support of Republican candidates up and down the ticket.



1967

Anderson’s first trip to Kansas during his 1968 presidential campaign was to deliver the prestigious Alfred M. Landon Lecture on Public Issues at Kansas State University on October 26, 1967. Governor Landon of Kansas had been the 1936 Republican Party nominee for president. Governor Landon, who would meet Anderson in Topeka the following spring, had inaugurated the speaker series in 1966, and the third speaker chosen was Governor Anderson.

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Anderson’s topic in 1967 was “Higher Education: Its Role in Contemporary America,” Anderson then spoke of the duties of universities. Anderson urged professors not to abandon the notions of right and wrong. An “educator is wrong who denies there are any absolutes—who sees no black and white, right or wrong, but just shades of gray.” Anderson said that educators “cannot escape a responsibility to aid in students’ development of character and maturity.” Anderson cautioned professors that they had “no right to indoctrinate students with his view of things” and ended those comments stating it “is the university’s obligation to teach, not indoctrinate.”

Anderson explained that each American was “equal before God and the law.” But Anderson saw clearly that society could not guarantee equal results or achievements for all. He stressed the importance of the individual by saying every man had a right “to achieve above the capacity of his fellows.” Neither government nor society should attempt to create equal outcomes as he used an analogy from baseball. “Certainly major league baseball would not be improved by letting every citizen who wanted to have a turn at playing Willie Mays’ position.”


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NS Nation Name: Meretica
Character Name: Armstrong Burke
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 64
Character Date of Birth: January 1, 1904
Character Position/Role/Job: Senator from New Jersey (1955 to Present); US Representative from New Jersey’s 6th District (1945-1953); State Senator (1943-1945)
Character Country/State of Birth: Elizabeth, New Jersey, USA
Character State of Residence: New Jersey
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Faceclaim: George Romney
Main Strengths, Main Weaknesses, Main Policies, and Main Platform:
Liberal as Liberal Can Be: Despised by conservatives and loved by liberals, Burke is a true member of the Eastern Establishment. While he is relatively hawkish on foreign policy matters, Burke is a model (Rockefeller) Republican, supporting civil rights, left-leaning social policies, economic programs, pragmatism, and efficiency. This places him in direct contrast with libertarians and conservatives within his party, many of whom hate the mere mention of his name due to his long-standing relationship with liberals and progressives in both parties. He has supported minimum wage increases, eliminating immigration quotas, increased funding for public education, and increasing funding for scientific measures. He is, at heart, a die-hard believer in Keynesian economics.
You’ve Got a Friend in Me… Even on the Debate Stage: Burke works best when he is speaking to people at town halls or making speeches at rallies; he tends to fare poorly on debate stages, preferring to avoid attacking his opponents in favor of seeking party unity and pushing his platform. He struggles to handle attacks well at times and rarely can use many attacks of his own. Positive messaging is Burke’s way of life. His friendly, easy-going nature appeals to people that are looking for someone they can trust to do what they think is right rather than follow a party platform to the letter– and it has helped him keep friends on both sides of the aisle.
Businesses and Government Can Be Friends: Like most members of the Eastern Establishment, Burke is friendly with business leaders in New England, believing that regulations can be good in moderation. He largely supports things as they are, though he consistently introduces tweaks that would benefit small businesses across the nation.
Eagleton Syndrome: Burke has been on small doses of medication for anxiety and depression for much of his life. Only his wife, parents, and chief-of-staff are aware of this. He has never attempted to take his own life or voiced those thoughts out loud or written them down. However, if it was revealed to the public that he was being medicated, Burke is fully aware he would be disgraced and his career would be over.
Pragmatism is Key: Above all else, Burke believes that pragmatism is key to efficiently getting things done in Washington and the rest of America. “Pragmatism comes through compromise, compromise comes from practice,” is something he’s repeatedly said on the campaign trail– and it’s something that he believes has held true during his political career.
Gimme a Hammer: Infrastructure spending is something that Burke is known for. Repeatedly making speeches and proposals in favor of job creation through programs that would build new public housing, libraries, and more, Burke is one of the best people to go to if someone wants support for infrastructure bills.
Realism for a Real World: While he is not the strongest person to examine foreign policy, Burke is a realist, espousing Hamiltonian and internationalist policies regarding foreign affairs. He is a vocal supporter of the UN and NATO, pushing for America and its allies to peacefully limit the spread of communism by expanding businesses, keeping capitalism healthy, and proving to the Soviets that they are wrong through actions rather than words. Burke has also called for creating a comprehensive peace treaty in Vietnam.
Fiscally Conscious, Not Conservative: Burke favors balanced budgets and is not above raising taxes to achieve that goal. He has consistently echoed the words of Senator (Bush), who is on the record as saying “raise the required revenues by approving whatever levels of taxation may be necessary.”
Money? What Money?: Because he's at odds with the wealthiest people in America on some very important issues. Burke is funded largely by unions, the working class, the middle class, and some urbanites (his conservative base is virtually nonexistent). Small donations are extremely important to his campaign as they truly keep his team afloat. It also forces him to rely on volunteers-- who could simply disappear at any moment.
Nobody Knows Your Name: Burke is well-known in New England, but despite this, he lacks personal connections in most states-- and many of the connections that he does have are with Democrats. This being the case, he will trail in the delegate count for a long time to come; it is likely that his best chance of securing the nomination is if the first ballot results in a contested convention.
Untested, and Yet Insider: Burke is a political insider that has maintained his grassroots support largely because he has delivered what he has promised his constituents. However, he was not elected governor in 1953, meaning that despite his insider status, all of his experience is purely legislative-- his entire political career has been spent as a legislator.

Biography:
Armstrong Burke (January 1, 1904 – Present) is an American lawyer and politician. A member of the Republican Party, he served as a U.S. Representative (1945–1953) and is a U.S. Senator (1955–Present) from New Jersey. Burke is the only child of Bartholomew and Ruth Burke. Bartholomew was a lawyer and Methodist minister until he died in 1909; Ruth is a retired tailor, though she occasionally makes things for her grandchildren to wear. His father was a staunch Democratic Conservative while his mother is a strong Republican Liberal; their rocky marriage caused Burke much strife throughout his early life. When Bartholomew died, Burke and his mother moved in with his maternal grandfather, a clerk of the New Jersey Supreme Court (Arnold “Arnie” Scott).

Burke led a normal school life, working hard and studying often while participating in things like sports (he played some basketball and baseball, preferring to watch both, however) and the book club. He graduated high school with honors, showing great promise for his future. Burke attended Rutgers, obtaining a Bachelor of Law degree and a Minor in Public Policy. He befriended Miriam Davies, whom he would later marry in 1927, while at Rutgers. Burke began working with a law firm that his grandfather connected him to shortly after leaving Rutgers. He was not particularly skilled on the debate floor, but his understanding and interpretation of the law were praised by his coworkers. He also had a knack for contractual law, proving himself to be a keen observer regarding the specific wording used by legislative officials. He used this knack to assist judges, lawyers, and politicians across the state draft legislation that proved beneficial to various people. It was during this time that he was diagnosed privately by a doctor with mild anxiety and depression. He, his mother, and his wife all agreed to keep it secret for the sake of the family. He has four children– Isabella (b. 1939, age 29; married a wealthy Liberal Republican in Maine), Matthias (b. 1941, age 27; currently working at a law firm in Boston), Hannah (b. 1946, age 22; attending Rutgers), and Ginevra (b. 1955, age 13; attending 8th grade at a private school).

Despite hardships during the Great Depression, Burke remained a liberal Republican, supporting Alf Landon, Wendell Wilkie, and Thomas Dewey in 1936, 1940, and 1944 respectively. (He admitted to voting for Roosevelt in 1932, but can you hate him for that? His only other choice was Hoover.) In 1942, Burke ran for the State Senate with support from many local Republicans in Union County, successfully earning his place in the political atmosphere. In 1944, he successfully elevated himself to the House of Representatives, serving as the Congressman from New Jersey’s 6th District. Burke fought made small businesses, civil rights, and pragmatism central parts of his platform. He sponsored and co-sponsored major legislation such as Hospital Survey and Reconstruction Act, Taft-Hartley, and the 22nd Amendment; he also participated in the United States Congressional Joint Committee on the Investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack. As the youngest member of the committee, this was a great honor that boosted his career and gave him some name recognition.

In 1948, Burke endorsed Thomas Dewey early on, praising his selection of Earl Warren for vice president. When Dewey lost, Burke lamented that sensible government was being sacrificed in the name of “power, greed, and politics.” In 1952, Burke did not seek reelection to the House, choosing instead to run for governor in 1953. Burke strongly backed Eisenhower, though he did not back Nixon for vice president, preferring Warren or Stassen. However, he agreed to campaign on Nixon’s behalf. However, when the “Checkers” speech came out, Burke refused to back Nixon ever again, believing that he would bring about the downfall of the GOP for some time if elected president. Burke quietly criticized Nixon during the Eisenhower Administration, and he refused to endorse Nixon in 1960– though he made sure that few took notice of it by campaigning for other Republicans around the country. Throughout the 1960s, Burke worked closely with JFK and LBJ to pass liberal legislation like the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the Revenue Act, and the 23rd Amendment.

In 1964, Burke briefly sought the GOP nomination. He did not support Goldwater, instead deciding to attack what he called the “radical right” and stand with the other more orthodox Republicans in his party. Burke spent all of 1964 fighting on behalf of moderate and liberal Republicans on the state, local, and federal levels. He also befriended many local and state party officials because he intends to run for president in 1968. In 1966, Burke was reelected with over 60% of the vote. He campaigned hard in Oregon, Tennessee, and Illinois for the Republicans that flipped those states. Burke intends to announce his intention to run by June 1968.

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NS Nation Name: South Olpen
Character Name: William Downeson
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 76
Character Date of Birth: 1891
Character Position/Role/Job:
1917-1918 US Marine Corps Officer
1918-1921 US Marine Corps Major
1921-1928 US Marine Corps Colonel
1928-1934 US Brig. General
1934-1939 US Major General
1939-1945 US General
1945-1953 US Ambassador to France
1953-1960 Pennsylvania Senator
Character Country/State of Birth: Pennsylvania
Character State of Residence: (During session) Virginia (Out of Session) Pennsylvania
Character Party Affiliation: Independent
Faceclaim: General Omar Bradley
Main Strengths and Weakness':
Hey, Isn't He The Vet General William is well known across the nation for his defense at the Battle of the Bulge. He was also given a Medal of Honor in one of the first televised award ceremonies.
Old Timer Although he mostly served the nation in the Army, he has also had an impressive 15 years of public service including 7 in the Senate.
Old Timer Although a Republican, he is seen by many to be too old and unreliable. A popular slander poster from his 1 Senate election showed him writing his landmark bill on a stone tablet in a cave.
Hot Takes His opinion on women and abortion is... questionable, even by 1960s standards.
Why Do Republics Given Them Power? As a popular general, he enjoys popularity among his soldiers similar to that of a Roman general among soldiers, both his subordinates and others who feel he represents them.
Globalist From his time as an ambassador and WW2 European theatre general, he learned the importance of international cooperation which could be used to advance him to Sec. of State.
Biography:
William Ketran 'Victor' Downeson (March 18th, 1891-Today) is an American politician and General currently serving as a Senator for Pennsylvania. A member of the Republican party, he was enlisted into the US army as an officer during WW1 after graduating from the University of Scranton. He became a General in the US Army before being made Ambassador to France and later a Senator.
Born to Jeffrey and Leslie Downeson nee Grace, an accountant and secretary respectively, the boy was poised for a peaceful life in the late 1800s. He received average grades which permitted him to get an English degree from U Scranton, and was averagely sociable among his peers throughout his life, even marrying Henrietta Faux, yet in April of 1917, he was drafted to serve in World War One. He served as an officer on the German front, and by the end of the war, he was a Major. Although he could have returned to being a school teacher, he decided to continue his path in the Army.
By 1941, William was a US general. In December of that year, Japan launched the infamous attack on Pearl Harbor. For Downeson, that meant once again fighting the Krauts in the European theater of World War Two. He was on the advisory council of General Davis and voted on many of the affairs related to D-Day. When the allies landed on the Beaches of Normandy, he was quoted as saying "Let's split up Germany- or just destroy it." After France had been taken, he was put in charge of managing the Bulge Offensive. He proved himself there as the Germans were pushed back and Allied forces could cross the Rhine.
Following the war, Downeson retired and was awarded the Medal of Honor by President Hammond. Taking advantage of his relative popularity in France, he was made the Ambassador. Nothing of note came of this as the two countries had good relations, though he was influential in the handling of the Kennedy (Marshall) Plan in France. Upon the election of President Davis, he declined an offer to continue and returned to the States in order to run for a Senate seat in his home, Pennsylvania.
Downeson won the election in 1953, focusing on his military history as a key selling point. He was criticized for his regressionist views on women, though this was negated by his supportive views on people of color, which were supportive as a result of fighting alongside them in both World Wars. He has continually run and won his Senate seat, though, in his more recent elections, his views on women have made him more of a target.
Downeson seems more ambitious in his later years. In interviews, he has stated that he is looking at the next elections to see who to support in the next Presidential election. He's hoping that if he plays his cards right he could be given a high-ranking cabinet office, even Secretary of State or of Defense. He's talking to rich Pennsylvanians who could offer their support to a candidate of Downesons choosing when the time is right.
Politically, Downeson has been known to be a mixture of both parties resulting in a pragmatic blend. He believes in full desegregation between African Americans and Whites, and he also manages to respect Asians and more impressively the Japanese. His belief that the 19th Amendment should be repealed is an open secret, though, which pretty much marginalizes half of his potential voters. He's fiscally responsible and believes that the Government should stop supporting many businesses that the economic ecosystem would have dead. He has a reputation for being an honest man, though it seems almost like the good are dying out in American politics, which could bring bad things for him.
He seems to almost have a perfect life. He has a wife who he met soon after college, Henrietta Faux, and two children, Tommy and Virtue, that follow him from Washington to Scranton as the Senate is in and out of season. He has a dog, Honey, who he campaigns with when trying to seem relatable. Secretly, he is bisexual and has had relationships with men, though he is still faithful. He is a Protestant who attends church every Sunday.
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Governor J. Jackson of South Dakota was during World War 2 superior to Downeson. Although the two are amicable and they are often together at events regarding WW2, Downeson is still secretly bitter that Jackson overrode the commands of the far elder Downeson. The fact that the comparative boy was Downeson's boss has always been a sore spot for the General, and so he tries to limit his public contact with his former superior.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:11 pm

Which RL generals is William replacing? Jackson is Patton in North Africa and Sicily, and Omar Bradley in France and Germany (plus MacArthur in Korean War, but that is another story). I assume, based on the app, that William is replacing Patton during mainland European campaign?
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NS Nation Name: Louis
Character Name: Henry Percival "Pike" Davis
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 78
Character Height: 5 ft 10
Character Weight: 172 lbs
Character Position/Role/Job:
34th President of the USA (1953-1961)
1st Supreme Allied Commander Europe (1951-1952)
16th Chief of Staff of the Army (1945-1948)
Military Governor of the U.S. Occupation Zone in Germany (1945-1945)
13th President of Columbia University (1948-1953)

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Character State of Origin: Kansas
Character State of Residence: Texas
Character Party Affiliation: Republican
Main Strengths: Military Hero, Master of Foreign Policy, Economic Hero
Main Weaknesses: Considered as a Moderate, Weak with Civil Rights, Stubborn
Biography: Henry was born in Topeka, Kansas 1890 to Gulbert and Frilda Davis. In 1900, the family moved to Round-Rock, Texas to live on a plantation with relatives. Henry was tutored by his Grandfather, a Confederate Veteran, before attending the University of Texas at Austin. After graduating college, Henry joined the Army, after requesting consideration for West Point. He went to West Point and was a very dedicated member of the Sports teams. He was academically sophisticated in the subject of Math.

He graduated West Point, afterwich he was stationed in Florida, where he met his future wife, Betty Mueller. They would be married in 1916, throughout their early marriage, they would move from Florida, to Texas, to Kansas, to Louisiana, and to Georgia at one point. When WWI broke out, Henry was more than excited to hear that he was to command a group in France as a Lt. Col. this was quickly shut down, as the Armistice was signed weeks before he was set to deploy.

After the war, he was reverted back to his normal rank of Captain, afterwich he was promoted to Major. From 1920, Davis served under a succession of talented generals Fox Conner, John J. Pershing, Douglas MacArthur and George Marshall. He first became executive officer to General Conner in the Panama Canal Zone, where, joined by Betty, he served until 1924.

During the late 1920s and early 1930s, Davis' career in the post-war army stalled somewhat, as military priorities diminished; many of his friends resigned for high-paying business jobs. He was assigned to the American Battle Monuments Commission directed by General Pershing, and with the help of his brother Harold Davis, then a journalist at the U.S. Agriculture Department, he produced a guide to American battlefields in Europe. He then was assigned to the Army War College and graduated in 1928. After a one-year assignment in France, Henry served as executive officer to General George V. Moseley, Assistant Secretary of War, from 1929 to February 1933. Major Davis graduated from the Army Industrial College (Washington, DC) in 1933 and later served on the faculty

His primary duty was planning for the next war, which proved most difficult in the midst of the Great Depression. He then was posted as chief military aide to General Douglas MacArthur, Army Chief of Staff. In 1932 he participated in the clearing of the Bonus March encampment in Washington, D.C. Although he was against the actions taken against the veterans and strongly advised MacArthur against taking a public role in it, he later wrote the Army's official incident report, endorsing MacArthur's conduct.

In 1935 he accompanied MacArthur to the Philippines, where he served as assistant military adviser to the Philippine government in developing their army. Davis had strong philosophical disagreements with MacArthur regarding the role of the Philippine Army and the leadership qualities that an American army officer should exhibit and develop in his subordinates.

Davis returned to the United States in December 1939 and was assigned as commanding officer (CO) of the 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment at Fort Lewis, Washington, later becoming the regimental executive officer. In March 1941 he was promoted to colonel and assigned as chief of staff of the newly activated IX Corps under Major General Kenyon Joyce. In June 1941, he was appointed chief of staff to General Walter Krueger, Commander of the Third Army, at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas. After successfully participating in the Louisiana Maneuvers, he was promoted to brigadier general on October 3, 1941. Although his administrative abilities had been noticed, on the eve of the American entry into World War II he had never held an active command above a battalion and was far from being considered by many as a potential commander of major operations.

After the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Davis was assigned to the General Staff in Washington, where he served until June 1942 with responsibility for creating the major war plans to defeat Japan and Germany. He was appointed Deputy Chief in charge of Pacific Defenses under the Chief of War Plans Division (WPD), General Leonard T. Gerow, and then succeeded Gerow as Chief of the War Plans Division. Next, he was appointed Assistant Chief of Staff in charge of the new Operations Division (which replaced WPD) under Chief of Staff General George C. Marshall, who spotted talent and was promoted him accordingly.

At the end of May 1942, Davis accompanied Lt. Gen. Henry H. Arnold, commanding general of the Army Air Forces, to London to assess the effectiveness of the theater commander in England, Maj. Gen. James E. Chaney. He returned to Washington on June 3 with a pessimistic assessment, stating he had an "uneasy feeling" about Chaney and his staff. On June 23, 1942, he returned to London as Commanding General, European Theater of Operations (ETOUSA), based in London and with a house on Coombe, Kingston upon Thames, and took over command of ETOUSA from Chaney. He was promoted to lieutenant general on July 7.

In December 1943, President Tinkerhull decided that Davis, not George Marshall, would be Supreme Allied Commander in Europe. The following month, he resumed command of ETOUSA and the following month was officially designated as the Supreme Allied Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Force (SHAEF), serving in a dual role until the end of hostilities in Europe in May 1945. He was charged in these positions with planning and carrying out the Allied assault on the coast of Normandy in June 1944 under the code name Operation Overlord, the liberation of Western Europe and the invasion of Germany.

Once the coastal assaults had succeeded, Davis insisted on retaining personal control over the land battle strategy, and was immersed in the command and supply of multiple assaults through France on Germany. Field Marshal Montgomery insisted priority be given to his 21st Army Group's attack being made in the north, while Generals Jackson(12th U.S. Army Group) and Devers (Sixth U.S. Army Group) insisted they be given priority in the center and south of the front (respectively). Davis worked tirelessly to address the demands of the rival commanders to optimize Allied forces, often by giving them tactical latitude; many historians conclude this delayed the Allied victory in Europe. However, due to Davis's persistence, the pivotal supply port at Antwerp was successful, albeit belatedly, opened in late 1944

Following the German unconditional surrender, Davis was appointed military governor of the American occupation zone, located primarily in Southern Germany, and headquartered at the IG Farben Building in Frankfurt am Main. Upon discovery of the Nazi concentration camps, he ordered camera crews to document evidence of the atrocities in them for use in the Nuremberg Trials. He reclassified German prisoners of war (POWs) in U.S. custody as Disarmed Enemy Forces (DEFs), who were no longer subject to the Geneva Convention. Davis followed the orders laid down by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) in directive JCS 1067, but softened them by bringing in 400,000 tons of food for civilians and allowing more fraternization. In response to the devastation in Germany, including food shortages and an influx of refugees, he arranged distribution of American food and medical equipment. His actions reflected the new American attitudes of the German people as Nazi victims not villains, while aggressively purging the ex-Nazis.

In June 1943, a visiting politician had suggested to Davis that he might become President of the United States after the war. Believing that a general should not participate in politics, Merlo J. Pusey wrote that "figuratively speaking, [Henry Davis] kicked his political-minded visitor out of his office". As others asked him about his political future, Henry told one that he could not imagine wanting to be considered for any political job "from dogcatcher to Grand High Supreme King of the Universe", and another that he could not serve as Army Chief of Staff if others believed he had political ambitions. In 1945, Carry Hammond told Davis during the Potsdam Conference that if desired, the president would help the general win the 1948 election, and in 1947 he offered to run as Davis' running mate on the Democratic ticket if MacArthur won the Republican nomination.

As the election approached, other prominent citizens and politicians from both parties urged Davis to run for president. In January 1948, after learning of plans in New Hampshire to elect delegates supporting him for the forthcoming Republican National Convention, Davis stated through the Army that he was "not available for and could not accept nomination to high political office"; "life-long professional soldiers", he wrote, "in the absence of some obvious and overriding reason, [should] abstain from seeking high political office". Henry maintained no political party affiliation during this time. Many believed he was forgoing his only opportunity to be president as Republican (Not Dewey) was considered the probable winner and would presumably serve two terms, meaning that Davis, at age 66 in 1956, would be too old to have another chance to run.

President Hammond sensed a broad-based desire for a Davis candidacy for president, and he again pressed him to run for the office as a Democrat in 1951. But Davis voiced his disagreements with the Democrats and declared himself to be a Republican. A "Draft Davis" movement in the Republican Party persuaded him to declare his candidacy in the 1952 presidential election to counter the candidacy of a non-interventionist Senator (Not-Robert A. Taft). The effort was a long struggle; Davis had to be convinced that political circumstances had created a genuine duty for him to offer himself as a candidate and that there was a mandate from the public for him to be their president. (Not-Henry Cabot Lodge) and others succeeded in convincing him, and he resigned his command in June 1952 to campaign full-time.

Davis defeated Democratic candidate (Not-Adlai Stevenson II) in a landslide, with an electoral margin of 442 to 89, marking the first Republican return to the White House in 20 years. He also brought a Republican majority in the House, by eight votes, and in the Senate, evenly divided with the Vice President providing Republicans the majority. He appointed General Jackson as his Secretary of State and would keep him in that position for both of his terms.

The United States presidential election of 1956 was held on November 6, 1956. Davis, the popular incumbent, successfully ran for re-election. The election was a re-match of 1952, as his opponent in 1956 was (Not-Stevenson), a former Illinois governor, whom Davis had decisively defeated four years earlier. Compared to the 1952 election, Davis gained Kentucky, Louisiana, and West Virginia from (Not-Stevenson), while losing Missouri. His voters were less likely to bring up his leadership record. Instead what stood out this time, "was the response to personal qualities— to his sincerity, his integrity and sense of duty, his virtue as a family man, his religious devotion, and his sheer likeableness."

Other Info: He gained the Nickname 'Pike' for his strength and love of the outdoors and fishing. Currently is suffering from undiagnosed Dementia and Parkinson's. He spends most of his time at his lodge in Washington. Secluded and alone, with his wife preferring to stay in their Maine residence.

I have read and accept the rules of the roleplay: (Louis)

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Louisianan wrote:Character Name: Henry Percival "Pike" Davis


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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:23 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Which RL generals is William replacing? Jackson is Patton in North Africa and Sicily, and Omar Bradley in France and Germany (plus MacArthur in Korean War, but that is another story). I assume, based on the app, that William is replacing Patton during mainland European campaign?

While I believe that Bradley would be appropriate given his faceclaim, I am not a history buff, nor do I believe I know more than you, so Patton. Although then again, I personally see no reason with just having a merger of characters/having a new one take a bit of glory from some of the existing ones. But I defer to you.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:27 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:Which RL generals is William replacing? Jackson is Patton in North Africa and Sicily, and Omar Bradley in France and Germany (plus MacArthur in Korean War, but that is another story). I assume, based on the app, that William is replacing Patton during mainland European campaign?

While I believe that Bradley would be appropriate given his faceclaim, I am not a history buff, nor do I believe I know more than you, so Patton. Although then again, I personally see no reason with just having a merger of characters/having a new one take a bit of glory from some of the existing ones. But I defer to you.


Well, I've already apped as a WWII General (who combines elements of the generals I mentioned) which is why I am trying to clarify things to ensure our biographies do not contradict each other. So, I assume you are replacing Patton in European campaign? If yes, I will be changing mentions to Patton in my bio to your character.

BTW, you might want to check out my app for that reason. It's a bit extensively long but it is so to avoid any confusions about commands held: General Jonathan Jackson
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:30 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:While I believe that Bradley would be appropriate given his faceclaim, I am not a history buff, nor do I believe I know more than you, so Patton. Although then again, I personally see no reason with just having a merger of characters/having a new one take a bit of glory from some of the existing ones. But I defer to you.


Well, I've already apped as a WWII General (who combines elements of the generals I mentioned) which is why I am trying to clarify things to ensure our biographies do not contradict each other. So, I assume you are replacing Patton in European campaign? If yes, I will be changing mentions to Patton in my bio to your character.

BTW, you might want to check out my app for that reason. It's a bit extensively long but it is so to avoid any confusions about commands held: General Jonathan Jackson

Very well. I will read the parts about World War Two. I'm basically fine just slotting in Downeson in any unoccupied events in the war, so long as he commands the Battle of the Bulge on the allied side.

Edit: While I take no offense to the initial leading of the Battle of the Bulge, I ask you to allow Downeson to take control for most of the battle and be at least mostly responsible for the victory. As stated above, I simply want that one battle and am otherwise more than OK with being slotted in for other battles.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:31 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Well, I've already apped as a WWII General (who combines elements of the generals I mentioned) which is why I am trying to clarify things to ensure our biographies do not contradict each other. So, I assume you are replacing Patton in European campaign? If yes, I will be changing mentions to Patton in my bio to your character.

BTW, you might want to check out my app for that reason. It's a bit extensively long but it is so to avoid any confusions about commands held: General Jonathan Jackson

Very well. I will read the parts about World War Two. I'm basically fine just slotting in Downeson in any unoccupied events in the war, so long as he commands the Battle of the Bulge on the allied side.


I mean sure. In my app I have Jackson being sidelined from the Battle of the Bulge (as in RL with Bradley), so your character can come to the rescue (like Patton did IRL).
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:33 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:Very well. I will read the parts about World War Two. I'm basically fine just slotting in Downeson in any unoccupied events in the war, so long as he commands the Battle of the Bulge on the allied side.


I mean sure. In my app I have Jackson being sidelined from the Battle of the Bulge (as in RL with Bradley), so your character can come to the rescue (like Patton did IRL).

Yep. Read the edit I made.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:41 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:Edit: While I take no offense to the initial leading of the Battle of the Bulge, I ask you to allow Downeson to take control for most of the battle and be at least mostly responsible for the victory. As stated above, I simply want that one battle and am otherwise more than OK with being slotted in for other battles.


I mean Patton (your character in this TL) was mostly responsible for the successful defense against the Bulge offensive: "the Third Army (AKA Patton) took the lead in relieving beleaguered American troops at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge". So you will be the big hero of the battle and it is essentially your victory.

But nominally Montgomery is in total command since in RL he was in command (Ike in RL placed Patton's army under Monty's command: same in this TL, pissing off Jackson). That does not mean you cannot claim it was your moves that secured victory though; Patton in RL certainly claimed that.

Not sure how it would work otherwise since technically your character would be a subordinate of Jackson (your character commands an army and Jackson and Montgomery army groups), so you would not be nominally the overall commander. But as commander of the third army, you can claim that your actions were responsible for defeating the Germans.
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:43 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:Edit: While I take no offense to the initial leading of the Battle of the Bulge, I ask you to allow Downeson to take control for most of the battle and be at least mostly responsible for the victory. As stated above, I simply want that one battle and am otherwise more than OK with being slotted in for other battles.


I mean Patton (your character in this TL) was mostly responsible for the successful defense against the Bulge offensive: "the Third Army (AKA Patton) took the lead in relieving beleaguered American troops at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge". So you will be the big hero of the battle and it is essentially your victory.

But nominally Montgomery is in total command since in RL he was in command (Ike in RL placed Patton's army under Monty's command: same in this TL, pissing off Jackson). That does not mean you cannot claim it was your moves that secured victory though; Patton in RL certainly claimed that.

Not sure how it would work otherwise since technically your character would be a subordinate of Jackson (your character commands an army and Jackson and Montgomery army groups).

Ok... so if y'all apps interfere with Davis's at all don't worry about it, if it ever needs fixing ICly we'll cross that bridge when we get there lmao.

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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:45 pm

Louisianan wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
I mean Patton (your character in this TL) was mostly responsible for the successful defense against the Bulge offensive: "the Third Army (AKA Patton) took the lead in relieving beleaguered American troops at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge". So you will be the big hero of the battle and it is essentially your victory.

But nominally Montgomery is in total command since in RL he was in command (Ike in RL placed Patton's army under Monty's command: same in this TL, pissing off Jackson). That does not mean you cannot claim it was your moves that secured victory though; Patton in RL certainly claimed that.

Not sure how it would work otherwise since technically your character would be a subordinate of Jackson (your character commands an army and Jackson and Montgomery army groups).

Ok... so if y'all apps interfere with Davis's at all don't worry about it, if it ever needs fixing ICly we'll cross that bridge when we get there lmao.


No worries lol From what I've seen, Davis' app does not contradict Jackson's.
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:48 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:Edit: While I take no offense to the initial leading of the Battle of the Bulge, I ask you to allow Downeson to take control for most of the battle and be at least mostly responsible for the victory. As stated above, I simply want that one battle and am otherwise more than OK with being slotted in for other battles.


I mean Patton (your character in this TL) was mostly responsible for the successful defense against the Bulge offensive: "the Third Army (AKA Patton) took the lead in relieving beleaguered American troops at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge". So you will be the big hero of the battle and it is essentially your victory.

But nominally Montgomery is in total command since in RL he was in command (Ike in RL placed Patton's army under Monty's command: same in this TL, pissing off Jackson). That does not mean you cannot claim it was your moves that secured victory though; Patton in RL certainly claimed that.

Not sure how it would work otherwise since technically your character would be a subordinate of Jackson (your character commands an army and Jackson and Montgomery army groups), so you would not be nominally the overall commander. But as commander of the third army, you can claim that your actions were responsible for defeating the Germans.

That's fine with me. As I said, his only other accomplishment could be glorious conqueror of Fucking Nowhere, Germany as long as he can be hailed as the mastermind behind the victory in the Battle of the Bulge. So yeah, that's fine.
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:49 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
I mean Patton (your character in this TL) was mostly responsible for the successful defense against the Bulge offensive: "the Third Army (AKA Patton) took the lead in relieving beleaguered American troops at Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge". So you will be the big hero of the battle and it is essentially your victory.

But nominally Montgomery is in total command since in RL he was in command (Ike in RL placed Patton's army under Monty's command: same in this TL, pissing off Jackson). That does not mean you cannot claim it was your moves that secured victory though; Patton in RL certainly claimed that.

Not sure how it would work otherwise since technically your character would be a subordinate of Jackson (your character commands an army and Jackson and Montgomery army groups), so you would not be nominally the overall commander. But as commander of the third army, you can claim that your actions were responsible for defeating the Germans.

That's fine with me. As I said, his only other accomplishment could be glorious conqueror of Fucking Nowhere, Germany as long as he can be hailed as the mastermind behind the victory in the Battle of the Bulge. So yeah, that's fine.


Great. :)
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:52 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:That's fine with me. As I said, his only other accomplishment could be glorious conqueror of Fucking Nowhere, Germany as long as he can be hailed as the mastermind behind the victory in the Battle of the Bulge. So yeah, that's fine.


Great. :)

In that case, is there anything else to complete or specify?
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:56 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:
Sao Nova Europa wrote:
Great. :)

In that case, is there anything else to complete or specify?


Will be reviewing your app tomorrow probably, but I don't think so. I just needed to clarify things about WWII. So, if and when you are accepted, I'll be replacing mentions of Patton during European campaign with your character.

You could also add a line or two perhaps mentioning his relationship (if he likes or dislikes the guy) with Jackson considering the fact that Jackson was his commanding officer in WWII and both characters are Republicans, but that is up to you. It is not needed. :)
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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:04 pm

Sao Nova Europa wrote:
SOUTH OLPEN wrote:In that case, is there anything else to complete or specify?


Will be reviewing your app tomorrow probably, but I don't think so. I just needed to clarify things about WWII. So, if and when you are accepted, I'll be replacing mentions of Patton during European campaign with your character.

You could also add a line or two perhaps mentioning his relationship (if he likes or dislikes the guy) with Jackson considering the fact that Jackson was his commanding officer in WWII and both characters are Republicans, but that is up to you. It is not needed. :)

Will do.
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Postby Meretica » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:12 pm

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Character Application and Information Sheet


NS Nation Name: Meretica
Character Name: Ronald "Ronnie" Truman
Character Gender: Male
Character Age: 46
Character Date of Birth: July 19, 1922
Character Position/Role/Job: US Representative from South Dakota's First District (1957-Present), Secretary of the SD Democratic Party (1952-1957), Professor of History (1949-1952), Military Pilot (1942-1945; left with the rank of 1st Lt.)
Character Country/State of Birth: South Dakota
Character State of Residence: South Dakota
Character Party Affiliation: Democratic
Faceclaim: Joe McCarthy
Main Strengths, Weaknesses, and Political Positions:
Love Me, I'm a Liberal: Truman is one of the furthest left politicians in Congress, and it is proven every time he opens his mouth to criticize one of his fellow Democrats. He attacks liberals on a daily basis, saying that they are "10 points to the left of center in the good times, 10 points to the right of center if it concerns them personally, and a hardcore Dixiecrat if someone says a black man is moving in next door." This has resulted in cheers from leftists but concerns that he is too far left to be viable anywhere outside of his district. Many believe that he hurts the Democratic Party.
Just Because I'm a Leftist Doesn't Mean I Can't Shoot Straight: Truman served as a pilot in the Second World War, meaning he has guns and knows how to use them. Truman is a strong supporter of gun rights, despite being an extreme leftist on just about every other matter
Kids are Expensive: As the father of 9-- the youngest of 7-- Truman understands that families are expensive to pay for, and he's got a strong record of fighting for working families across his home state.
More Stubborn than a Mule: Truman's stubborn, unchanging nature is easily connected to anyone that recognizes his name. Unmoving on even the smallest of things, rare is the day that he compromises on most anything, forcing as many changes into every bill as he can possibly get passed. Having rebuilt the Democratic Party of South Dakota practically from scratch with little-to-no funding from the national party, Truman has a record of doing insane things to put together grassroots support for various plans. It also helps keep him in office despite the state becoming increasingly conservative.
A Thousand Bucks a Month or Else: Truman is a champion of an idea he calls universal basic income. UBI, in his opinion, means you get $1,000 a month merely for existing. His political opponents call them "electoral bribes." Also, he supports Amnesty, Abortion, and Acid. Blue-collar economic populism is also important to his platform.

Biography:

Ronnie Truman is a Democratic Congressman from South Dakota's 1st Congressional District. A lifelong Democrat, Truman joined the airforce in January 1946 and became a pilot. He returned to his alma mater after World War II, Dakota Wesleyan, and became a professor, instructing students in history and political science. He was inherently slanted in favor of the labor movement and minorities in his teachings, leaving him to be criticized for his methods by some fellow teachers and parents.

Truman left a tenure-track position at the university to become executive secretary of the South Dakota Democratic Party, the state chair having recruited him after reading his articles. Democrats in the state were at a low, holding no statewide offices and only 2 of the 110 seats in the state legislature. Friends and political figures had counseled Truman against making the move, but despite his mild, unassuming manner, Truman had an ambitious nature and was intent on starting a political career of his own. McGovern spent the following years rebuilding and revitalizing the party, building up a large list of voter contacts via frequent travel around the state. Democrats showed improvement in the 1954 elections, winning 25 seats in the state legislature. From 1954 to 1956 he also was on a political organization advisory group for the Democratic National Committee.

In 1956, Truman sought elective office himself and ran for the House of Representatives from South Dakota's 1st congressional district. He faced four-term incumbent Republican Party representative Harold O. Lovre. Aided by the voter lists he had earlier accumulated, Truman ran a low-budget campaign, spending $12,000 while borrowing $5,000. His quiet personality appealed to voters he met, while Lovre suffered from general unhappiness over Pike administration farm policy. When polls showed Truman gaining, Lovre's campaign implied that Truman's support for admitting the People's Republic of China to the United Nations and his past support for Henry Wallace meant that he was a communist appeaser or sympathizer. In his closing speech, Truman responded: "I have always despised communism and every other ruthless tyranny over the mind and spirit of man." Truman staged an upset victory, gaining 116,516 votes to his opponent's 105,835, and became the first Democrat elected to Congress from South Dakota in 22 years.

Throughout the 1960s, Truman strongly opposed the governorship of General Jackson. Despite all of his hard work in rebuilding the Democratic Party in South Dakota, he was unable to keep Jackson from being elected. Truman worked as hard as he could to make Jackson's name synonymous with Goldwater's, but to no avail-- Jackson remained in power and successfully reformed the politics of the state. Truman has consistently argued that the Great Society has not gone far enough and that leftists, not liberals, ought to be given the reins of the government to "fix everything." He is among the least-liked members of Congress, according to his coworkers.

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South Olpen
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Postby South Olpen » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:32 pm

I'm thinking about my opening post if I get accepted tomorrow, so does anyone know whether or not the Senate is in session? If not, my guy will probably be finding donors and going to a WW2 thing.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:They could serve as a distraction.

Of course, in modern combat, that's what the French are for.


American Legionaries wrote:Baseball fans are liars, bitching about politics is the real American pass time.

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Louisianan
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Postby Louisianan » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:35 pm

SOUTH OLPEN wrote:I'm thinking about my opening post if I get accepted tomorrow, so does anyone know whether or not the Senate is in session? If not, my guy will probably be finding donors and going to a WW2 thing.

The Congress thread isn't up yet so I would assume not at the moment. Idk tho. The IC got posted yesterday, but not the congress yet.

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