[Abortion Thread] A Matter of Choice (NEW POLL!)

[Thomasi]

Is there a right to bodily autonomy?

There is.

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,

Without the due process of law.

[Ethel mermania]

There is no constitutional protection for abortion rights. The ruling is correct.

Yes there is.

nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

[Hukhalia]

I don't know why we're reducing abortion to the silly rules set out in a 250 year old piece of paper that can't possibly reflect the modern day. People will die because of this and people are using the outdated words of a bunch of old dead fucks who've long since decomposed to justify it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

There is.

Without the due process of law.

But it says "without due process of law" and if you squint really hard while huffing GOP agitprop you'll see even the literal Nuremberg Laws were "due process".

[Necroghastia]

Yes there is.

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

You're a shit liar, you know that?
How is depriving someone of their bodily sovereignty not depriving them of their liberty?

[New haven america]

Yes there is.

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

1/2 the country is actually.

Oh wait, forgot for a second, most of the GOP doesn't view women as people.

[New haven america]

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

You're a shit liar, you know that?
How is depriving someone of their bodily sovereignty not depriving them of their liberty?

Well you see, it doesn't affect them, so it can't be that bad.

[Ethel mermania]

There is no constitutional protection for abortion rights. The ruling is correct.

A great comfort that will surely be for those who suffer and die because of this ruling.

The constitution isn't a ball of fluffy goodness. Its a legal document, don't like it change it, or Pass a federal law allowing abortion, or go to a state that has legal abortion.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That chattel slavery still can't be outlawed in half of the USA says everything that needs to be said about the country rlly.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Is there a right to bodily autonomy?

There is.

nor shall any State deprive any person of life,liberty, or property,

Well that’s what the Pro Life crowd uses to oppose Roe…

[The Black Forrest]

Yes there is.

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

Missouri just outlawed it. How do have liberty when you don’t have the option?

Even then this is a bigger mess now. A mentioned a couple times now with the neighbor and the OBG clinic who provides abortions over the Texas laws. Can they be sued if a Texas woman gets an abortion, can the insurance company deny payment if the Texas woman gets an abortion. They had 10 pages of legal questions over the issues of the Texas laws.

The legislatures are going to be suing states over their people getting help elsewhere…..

[Ethel mermania]

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

Missouri just outlawed it. How do have liberty when you don’t have the option?

Even then this is a bigger mess now. A mentioned a couple times now with the neighbor and the OBG clinic who provides abortions over the Texas laws. Can they be sued if a Texas woman gets an abortion, can the insurance company deny payment if the Texas woman gets an abortion. They had 10 pages of legal questions over the issues of the Texas laws.

The legislatures are going to be suing states over their people getting help elsewhere…..

They will lose, a state can't control the actions of its citizen in another state.

Can Texas ban abortion coverage on an insurance policy sold in Texas? would be the question

[Vassenor]

If this whole thing was about life, we'd be seeing pushes for universal healthcare, education funding, and every effort to make sure 10-year-olds aren't shot in their classrooms.

But we aren't, because this was never about the lives of kids. It's about reinforcing control of those who can get pregnant, and it always has been.

[The Jamesian Republic]

If this whole thing was about life, we'd be seeing pushes for universal healthcare, education funding, and every effort to make sure 10-year-olds aren't shot in their classrooms.

But we aren't, because this was never about the lives of kids. It's about reinforcing control of those who can get pregnant, and it always has been.

I know. To be truly pro life you must support efforts to protect and care for children after they are born.

[Necroghastia]

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

Missouri just outlawed it. How do have liberty when you don’t have the option?

Even then this is a bigger mess now. A mentioned a couple times now with the neighbor and the OBG clinic who provides abortions over the Texas laws. Can they be sued if a Texas woman gets an abortion, can the insurance company deny payment if the Texas woman gets an abortion. They had 10 pages of legal questions over the issues of the Texas laws.

The legislatures are going to be suing states over their people getting help elsewhere…..

FUGITIVE SLAVE ACT... 2!!!!!!!!!!

[Existential Cats]

There is.

Well that’s what the Pro Life crowd uses to oppose Roe…

Exactly. It's a debate over personhood. I don't think the Constitution ever firmly defines personhood, does it?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Well that’s what the Pro Life crowd uses to oppose Roe…

Exactly. It's a debate over personhood. I don't think the Constitution ever firmly defines personhood, does it?

I don’t know.

[West Bromwich Holme]

Bad decision for America.

The country should try to make abortion a choice, it would be wrong if America next banned same-sex marriage.
The U.S. should be a country where it's about personal freedom and responsibility, but it seems to contradict that.

Yes, abortion is obviously a touchy topic, but shouldn't the woman have a right to choose?

Now rape victims will have to go abroad for abortions, which isn't good. Or to backstreet abortion, which is riskier and illegal.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

A great comfort that will surely be for those who suffer and die because of this ruling.

The constitution isn't a ball of fluffy goodness. Its a legal document, don't like it change it, or Pass a federal law allowing abortion, or go to a state that has legal abortion.

Ah, yes. All things that are easy and simple for civilians, and especially poor civilians.

[Diarcesia]

A great comfort that will surely be for those who suffer and die because of this ruling.

The constitution isn't a ball of fluffy goodness. Its a legal document, don't like it change it, or Pass a federal law allowing abortion, or go to a state that has legal abortion.

What of state laws that forbid that loophole?

[Armeattla]

A great comfort that will surely be for those who suffer and die because of this ruling.

The constitution isn't a ball of fluffy goodness. Its a legal document, don't like it change it, or Pass a federal law allowing abortion, or go to a state that has legal abortion.

Easier said than done.
Especially in a system that undemocratic.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Bad decision for America.

The country should try to make abortion a choice, it would be wrong if America next banned same-sex marriage.
The U.S. should be a country where it's about personal freedom and responsibility, but it seems to contradict that.

Yes, abortion is obviously a touchy topic, but shouldn't the woman have a right to choose?

Now rape victims will have to go abroad for abortions, which isn't good. Or to backstreet abortion, which is riskier and illegal.

This^ and it should do what is possible to make sure that such a decision is a last resort

[Existential Cats]

Now rape victims will have to go abroad for abortions, which isn't good. Or to backstreet abortion, which is riskier and illegal.

It's not that extreme, it's just that the legality is now fully reverting for the states to decide.

[New haven america]

Now rape victims will have to go abroad for abortions, which isn't good. Or to backstreet abortion, which is riskier and illegal.

It's not that extreme, it's just that the legality is now fully reverting for the states to decide.

Mitch said if the GOP retakes the senate in '24 they're federally banning it.

[Farnhamia]

No one is being deprived of any of the above. I dont have liberty to drive 100 miles an hour down the street, or take any drug i want anytime.

This decision just puts the issue back to the legislature, which is where it belongs.

You're a shit liar, you know that?
How is depriving someone of their bodily sovereignty not depriving them of their liberty?

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