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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:00 am

Kerwa wrote:Given the climate crisis the federal flood insurance programs etc. should be ended immediately.

Also Vegas and Phoenix should be shut down.


The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:
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Umeria
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Postby Umeria » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:10 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Kerwa wrote:Given the climate crisis the federal flood insurance programs etc. should be ended immediately.

Also Vegas and Phoenix should be shut down.

The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

We can adapt, sure, but we only have a finite amount of resources to do so. When those run out we'll have wars over water, mass emigration from uninhabitable areas. I doubt you'll be calling it overblown then.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:

Well the environmental movement doesn't have a marketing team as far as I'm aware. Since there's no script for everyone to follow, occasionally the messaging is going to sound different than before.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:14 am

Umeria wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

We can adapt, sure, but we only have a finite amount of resources to do so. When those run out we'll have wars over water, mass emigration from uninhabitable areas. I doubt you'll be calling it overblown then.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:

Well the environmental movement doesn't have a marketing team as far as I'm aware. Since there's no script for everyone to follow, occasionally the messaging is going to sound different than before.


The progression of climate fearmongering has been evident for decades.

As for your first point, the only uninhabitable region on earth is the antarctic, and guess what? Human live there too. :rofl:
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:17 am

Umeria wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

We can adapt, sure, but we only have a finite amount of resources to do so. When those run out we'll have wars over water, mass emigration from uninhabitable areas. I doubt you'll be calling it overblown then.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:

Well the environmental movement doesn't have a marketing team as far as I'm aware. Since there's no script for everyone to follow, occasionally the messaging is going to sound different than before.

that isn't really a problem since i'm sure governments will just shoot foreigners on sight if we get to that point
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Postby Diarcesia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:19 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Umeria wrote:We can adapt, sure, but we only have a finite amount of resources to do so. When those run out we'll have wars over water, mass emigration from uninhabitable areas. I doubt you'll be calling it overblown then.


Well the environmental movement doesn't have a marketing team as far as I'm aware. Since there's no script for everyone to follow, occasionally the messaging is going to sound different than before.


The progression of climate fearmongering has been evident for decades.

As for your first point, the only uninhabitable region on earth is the antarctic, and guess what? Human live there too. :rofl:

Consider the alternative that it became a climate crisis because no one really thought climate change is serious.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:22 am

Can you grow wheat and rice when the average temperature at night is rocking at half way to the boiling point of water?
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Umeria
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Postby Umeria » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:23 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Umeria wrote:We can adapt, sure, but we only have a finite amount of resources to do so. When those run out we'll have wars over water, mass emigration from uninhabitable areas. I doubt you'll be calling it overblown then.

Well the environmental movement doesn't have a marketing team as far as I'm aware. Since there's no script for everyone to follow, occasionally the messaging is going to sound different than before.

The progression of climate fearmongering has been evident for decades.

Just because attitudes change doesn't mean mongering took place. If you saw a bomb ticking down and no one trying to disarm it, wouldn't you naturally get more and more agitated as the time runs out?

As for your first point, the only uninhabitable region on earth is the antarctic, and guess what? Human live there too. :rofl:

Can they grow food there?
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:23 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Kerwa wrote:Given the climate crisis the federal flood insurance programs etc. should be ended immediately.

Also Vegas and Phoenix should be shut down.


The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:

Speaking of A/C:

That's going to be a huge source of energy demand in the coming years, particularly in developing countries with hot climates. There is a certain level of heat/humidity that people cannot physically tolerate, namely a wet bulb temperature exceeding 35 degrees C.

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Postby Rusozak » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:27 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Kerwa wrote:Given the climate crisis the federal flood insurance programs etc. should be ended immediately.

Also Vegas and Phoenix should be shut down.


The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:


When we're heading towards global disaster and no one does anything to try and avert it, it does eventually become a crisis, yes.
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:27 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Can you grow wheat and rice when the average temperature at night is rocking at half way to the boiling point of water?

maybe in elon musks hideout
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:28 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Can you grow wheat and rice when the average temperature at night is rocking at half way to the boiling point of water?

The losses we saw in India's wheat crop this year from that heat wave is a warning of what's to come in the future. Wheat is pretty heat-sensitive, particularly during flowering.

This issue is going to stop being "funny" for Westerners in some years when millions of climate refugees start coming to their borders.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:30 am

Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:31 am

Antipatros wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Can you grow wheat and rice when the average temperature at night is rocking at half way to the boiling point of water?

The losses we saw in India's wheat crop this year from that heat wave is a warning of what's to come in the future. Wheat is pretty heat-sensitive, particularly during flowering.

This issue is going to stop being "funny" for Westerners in some years when millions of climate refugees start coming to their borders.

It's fairly lolz watching the American middle class going "this is fine" even when places like Las Vegas are going to be looking for drinkable water in the Arctic soon.
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Postby Meadowfields » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:33 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.

Which region was it? If you don't mind.
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Postby Antipatros » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:33 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.

Maybe it was just RP? Hitler quit the game as well when he got counteroffensive'd.

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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:33 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.

now this kind of raiding i can get behind
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Postby Afrikan Staat » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:49 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Can you grow wheat and rice when the average temperature at night is rocking at half way to the boiling point of water?

Near-term concerns are potential heatwaves in places like India, in regions where the humidity is incredibly high. The sweating system stops working at a temperature where bodily processes become dysfunctional. Also, yes, heatwaves tend to result in electrical grid failures, meaning that ACs and even fans stops working, especially in places of poor infrastructure. Mass deaths will be the result, especially for vulnerable people like the elderly population.

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:50 am

Meadowfields wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.

Which region was it? If you don't mind.

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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:51 am

Antipatros wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:Off Topic, but I just saw a pro-fascism region finally fall and I feel no remorse one bit. They raided other small regions, bragged, and when they got a counteroffensive'd, lo and behold, they quit the game. Good fucking riddance.

Maybe it was just RP? Hitler quit the game as well when he got counteroffensive'd.

No, I know the person IRL. Was a friend of mine I met online, up until they found out my heritage and the whole thing came tumbling down. They were serious. Funny how the slave acts like the master sometimes.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:52 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Antipatros wrote:The losses we saw in India's wheat crop this year from that heat wave is a warning of what's to come in the future. Wheat is pretty heat-sensitive, particularly during flowering.

This issue is going to stop being "funny" for Westerners in some years when millions of climate refugees start coming to their borders.

It's fairly lolz watching the American middle class going "this is fine" even when places like Las Vegas are going to be looking for drinkable water in the Arctic soon.

Vegas and most of Southern California are way overpopulated to be "sustainable ". We build in creosote Forrests and cry about wild fires. We build in deserts and cry about water.. These things aren't caused by climate change but by masses of people wanting to live in places that can't naturally support them.
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Postby Meadowfields » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:52 am

Northern Seleucia wrote:
Antipatros wrote:Maybe it was just RP? Hitler quit the game as well when he got counteroffensive'd.

No, I know the person IRL. Was a friend of mine I met online, up until they found out my heritage and the whole thing came tumbling down. They were serious. Funny how the slave acts like the master sometimes.

Was it Nordic Peoples Reich? Ironic since I've interacted with them a few times too...on the site, of course.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:53 am

Meadowfields wrote:
Northern Seleucia wrote:No, I know the person IRL. Was a friend of mine I met online, up until they found out my heritage and the whole thing came tumbling down. They were serious. Funny how the slave acts like the master sometimes.

Was it Nordic Peoples Reich? Ironic since I've interacted with them a few times too...on the site, of course.

Bingo. To the TG before we get mods on our ass.
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Postby Northern Seleucia » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 am

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Postby Kerwa » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:07 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Kerwa wrote:Given the climate crisis the federal flood insurance programs etc. should be ended immediately.

Also Vegas and Phoenix should be shut down.


The fact that people settled Phoenix long before A/C (along with humanities adapting to every climate on earth) is evidence that the "climate crisis"* is overblown.

*Climate crisis? They changed the term AGAIN? What, did the term "climate Change" lose its mojo? :rofl:


Turn off the AC and 90% of the people there would leave. Even if you disagree about the climate building large cities in the desert is stupid. Especially ones with golf courses.

And as electricity supply is likely to become scare/prohibitively expensive (along with water shortages) it’s better to start the relocation of people now why there’s still an energy surplus. (Whatever is decided in the next election, fossil fuels are doomed forever now).

My point about flood insurance stands.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:07 am

Hot Take: Democracy must be radically expanded into the government workplace and economy.
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