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Postby Leutria » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:12 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Demember or December? Choose one, please :P

Glad to see that Kantrias hasn't given up yet, LOL

Whoops, clearly I was just tired after converting all the proboards BBCode to something that works here >.>

Anyway, thanks! We are always around to some extent. Just, we don't always bother letting the rest of the world know :p
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Snow Blossom Festival

Postby Leutria » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:51 pm

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Greetings from Kantrias! While the holiday spirit is building up over the days until Christmas, we have decided to host a festival you are invited to! The festival will start on the 24th of December to the 3rd of January as well as public access to our forums designated for the festival.

The festival includes ornament coloring contests, movie nights, snowball fights, and games on our forum! If you do not wish to set up a forum account, you can attend Among Us games on the 24th 2-3pm EST (11AM-12PM Pacific) (20-21:00 CET) and 26th 5-6pm EST (2 PM-3PM Pacific) (23-00:00 CET) and Skribbl.io (3-4pm EST (12-1PM Pacific) (21-22:00 CET)).

You can visit our forums here: https://kantrias.freeforums.net/
You can join our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/29WdUhE
We hope to see you there!
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Postby Leutria » Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:09 pm

The tents are up and the Snow Blossom Festival is officially open! Grab a mug of hot chocolate and come join in the festivities! On the forums we have contests, games, and places to just relax in the festive atmosphere. On the main stage you can also find our schedule of events. Game and movie nights will also be announced on our Discord, and on the Main Stage.

So, what are you waiting for? Come and join us!

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Postby Leutria » Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:35 pm

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Greetings from Kantrias! With the flowers blossoming, we are hosting a festival that you are invited to! The festival will start on the 27th of March to the 10th of April as well as public access to our forums designated for the festival.

The festival includes contests, movie nights, and games on our forum! If you do not wish to set up a forum account, you can follow our announcements and events when we release a link.

The first game night time can be found here: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ... 21&p1=1440
As well as on the schedule: https://kantrias.freeforums.net/thread/ ... l-schedule

You can visit our forums here: https://kantrias.freeforums.net/
You can join our Discord server here: https://discord.gg/29WdUhE
We hope to see you there!

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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Wed May 11, 2022 1:10 pm

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May 2022 - Foreign Affairs Update

Here follows 2022’s first Foreign Affairs update from the Kantrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, representing the good people of the Kingdom, the Kylian Assembly and the Royal Family

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The Monarchy

King: Caldemar Leutria Quilor III
Heir Apparent: Sara Quilor
Prince: Skar Quilor

The Kylian Assembly

Lord Chancellor: August Tudor-Stuart
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Skar Quilor
Minister of Culture: Nick Mountbatten
Minister of Recruitment: Kolron A. Zobieski


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Detailing the Regent's Performance

For the first time in recent history, Kantrias has a Regent! On the 31st day of the 3rd month of the year 2022, Her Royal Highness the Crown Princess Sara Quilor declared a State of Regency in accordance with regional law. At the moment of writing this article and the subsequent release of the May 2022 Foreign Affairs Update, it has been nearly a month and a half since the Regency was declared.

The King, Caldemar Leutria Quilor III, has been on a hiatus due to the recent global pandemic, wherein he was forced to deal with circumstances he had no control over, but kept him away from Kantrias nonetheless.

The Regent has proven to be a trustworthy and stable one, for she performs her duties in accordance with Kantrian law, and doesn’t stray from her task.

The Regent is performing flawlessly, doing a remarkably good job and doesn’t shy away from intervening when things get out of hand.

All in all, Kantrias is glad to have her, and very pleased to see a glimpse of what we can expect were she to ascend the throne as Queen.

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Kantrian Stance on Current Events

The NationStates forums - also known as GP - have recently become somewhat of a dangerous place to move around in. It is almost as if regions that at one point seemed stable and consistent in their behavior, have abandoned their skill in statecraft, in favor of lecturing, posturing and bullying regions they seem to see as lesser, or more dangerous. In doing so, these regions are making the broader NS-verse into some sort of elaborate trap, where you, if you take one step out of line, are struck down with uncaring impunity.

The sheer amount of reputation-bashing is quite frankly staggering. This type of behavior seems to be employed the most in some attempt to damage a region’s or individual’s reputation so badly that they no longer pose a threat. Remarkably, the most reputation-bashing comes from regions that call themselves democratic, free, and against oppressive regimes often found on the right side of NationStates.

Kantrias does not and will not approve of these actions and behaviors. While we too do employ behaviors that are akin to political scheming, the sheer and overwhelming amount of suspicion-sowing, reputation-bashing and blame-shifting focussed on individuals and regions alike shocks us. It reeks of kindergarten-behavior, where one child yells at another ‘I don’t want to be your friend anymore, because you play more with Mariska than with me…’, and then proceeds to say mean things about poor Mariska in some attempt to control a situation that is clearly and obviously out of their control.

We in Kantrias understand that (intense) disagreements can feel like a threat, and that that feeling can become irrational when one loses themselves in the feeling of being threatened, of having to give something up, or having to defend your point of view and the way you’re used to doing certain things. All natural responses, but letting these feelings affect your behavior and painting said behavior away as something ‘right’ and ‘just’ is something Kantrias does not agree with. This doesn’t mean that Kantrias never makes mistakes, quite the contrary is actually the truth; for our Minister of Foreign Affairs often loses himself in his passions, and even the Regent occasionally flares up into ardent debate.

A long story made short; Kantrias watches what is currently going on with a feeling of dread and concern, and hopes that regions and individuals alike will soon return to their more cooperative state. Hostility between vastly different groups is completely understandable - and to be expected, but when it comes to ‘one of your own’, some restraint should be exercised.

Hostile behavior creates ripples, and sooner or later these ripples will become unstoppable waves.

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A New Embassy with the Lower Kingdom

When we were contacted by Pauline Bonaparte, representing the Lower Kingdom, the Minister of Foreign Affairs reached out to them and asked them to describe the Lower Kingdom to him.

Kantrias is happy to say that the Lower Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy that plans to play a part in GP. Headed by veterans, the Lower Kingdom seems to have created quite a stable foundation for themselves. Most surprising was that they are Independent, which brings some fresh air into our Foreign Affairs.

In short, Kantrias is happy to have made a new and promising friend.

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Termination of All Relations with The Fellowship of OmniOne

After having maintained a one-sided relationship with The Fellowship of OmniOne, and after having ignored worrying gut feelings, our Minister of Foreign Affairs has on the 11th day of the 5th month of the year 2022, terminated all relations with The Fellowship of OmniOne. The Minister of Foreign Affairs did so around 16:10 in the afternoon, citing the following as reasons;

‘1) Due to the detection of anti-Semitic content on the official OmniOne Discord server, posted by - but not limited to - a high-profile individual of the region of Omnione,
2) Due to the detection of NSFW-focused channels on the official OmniOne Discord server, and the posting of NSFW/lewd content in other channels, even though NationStates is known for hosting a immense community of which many players are underage/ minors,
3) Due to the continued relations OmniOne has had with far-right leaning regions both current and past,
4) Due to the continued lack of an Omnite Diplomat, even when OmniOne has been reminded of their duties.’


Kantrias has not - and will never - maintain embassies with regions that ‘are ok’ with anti-Semite comments, and laugh them away as the person who made the comments ‘is a Jew himself’. Such behavior is unacceptable and would damage the integrity of our dear Kantrias if relations were to be maintained any longer.

We all know NationStates is host to an immense community, a large part of this community consists of persons under 18 years of age. It is our belief that NSFW channels and -content does not belong in an official regional Discord server, even behind NSFW-warnings or age-locks. The occasional sexual comment and harmless discussion does considerably less damage than posting full-on NSFW content in the shape of images and gifs, no matter if it is behind age-locks or not.

Rather recently the Minister of Foreign Affairs received a message from a friend, containing screenshots of conversations in the official OmniOne Discord server, and they were shocking. They contained proof of anti-Semitic comments, and information about NSFW content being shared in a publicly visible channel.

Based on this information, and the obvious gut feeling the Minister of Foreign Affairs had several months prior, it was recommended to the Lord Chancellor to terminate all relations with The Fellowship of OmniOne. The recommendation was approved, and soon after relations were terminated.

This is a good moment to reiterate the Kingdom of Kantrias’ stance on fascism and anti-Semitism; we deem its existence unacceptable and will continue to endeavor to expose it wherever it rears its ugly head and to burn it down - root and stem - where possible.

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Signed and published by;

The Kingdom of Kantrias
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
His Royal Highness the Prince, Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Skar Quilor
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Postby Zeorus » Wed May 11, 2022 1:31 pm

Lovely update! It's great to hear from y'all.
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Postby Roanoke Colony » Wed May 11, 2022 2:54 pm

Hear, hear! Quite the update for Kantrias, and I think we all can appreciate the good work our Regent is doing while the King is away! Princess Regent Sara Quilor is doing a great job and she is serving the region well.

As far as recent events go, it is indeed unfortunate but necessary that Kantrias take inventory of all its relations with other regions. I am glad to be part of a region that actually cares about its residents and citizens and hears their concerns.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed May 11, 2022 3:17 pm

Lots of dancing around something here I see, lol.

Congrats on the relations with lower kingdom, and lmao good riddance to OmniOne. Shame it...blew up like that.
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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Sun May 22, 2022 11:17 am

For immediate release, document shown as submitted to the Land of Kings and Emperors

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Citizens of the Kingdom of Kantrias and the Land of Kings and Emperors, as well as treasured foreign and allied readers,

It is my duty as lawfully elected Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Kantrias to inform the Land of Kings and Emperors that His Majesty’s Government, pursuant to the stated will of the Kylian Assembly, is hereby issuing a notice of termination in accordance to Article IV of the Treaty of Claidheamh;

‘Article IV: Termination of Treaty
1. If a Signatory region wishes to terminate this treaty, five days notice must be given on the forum of the other region.
2. […]’


After reviewing the events of the past months, we have come to the conclusion that the Kingdom of Kantrias and the Land of Kings and Emperors no longer share common ideals. We disagree with the path the LKE has taken in certain matters, and feel that our principles no longer align. It is our topmost principle that an individual shall always be given the chance to defend themselves in a proper trial in accordance with relevant laws, and should not be struck down for speaking up against a regime they no longer recognize as their own.

Through a democratic legislative process, the good people of the Kingdom of Kantrias have expressed their wish for the Termination of the Treaty of Claidheamh. Sadly, It is due to changes within the LKE - some subtle and some much less so - that Kantrias has decided to terminate this historic treaty. We feel that a continued alliance with the LKE will slowly erode our own principles and values, and that is something we wish to not be so.

We realize some of you who read this might feel offended, worried or uncertain. This is understandable, but we want to remind you that relations between Kantrias and the LKE have always been healthy and positive, and that while this could be seen as a setback, we hope it is not a permanent one. We wish to remind you that the termination of this treaty may not be seen as a hostile action against the LKE, as the treaty itself states the following;

‘Article IV: Termination of Treaty
1. […]
2. Termination of this treaty shall not be seen as an act of war or hostility.’


We will not allow people to twist our decision to terminate the Treaty of Claidheamh into something it is not to advance their own agendas.

For those who are worried, I will leave some words of wisdom I hope you will all take to heart; “To many people, change is scary. But like the seasons, change is inevitable. You can either bend like the reeds or snap like a tree.” It is with these fine words that I wish to end this address.

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Signed and published by;

The Kingdom of Kantrias
His Majesty’s Government
Baronet, Lord Chancellor
Augustus Tudor-Stuart

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
His Royal Highness the Prince, Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Skar Quilor

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Postby Chalupionia » Sun May 22, 2022 11:22 am

Cool. LKE was never a good ally anyway to anyone
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Postby Nulkia » Sun May 22, 2022 3:39 pm

Terra Inferiori Reliquere wrote:pursuant to the stated will of the Kylian Assembly

For anyone unfamiliar, this refers to the resolution spoilered below authored by Valfor Talleyrand:

Delphinium Council Resolution 01

A resolution to express shock and dismay at The Land of Kings and Emperors.

Author: Valfor Talleyrand


Section I

a.) WHEREAS, The Land of Kings and Emperors ("The LKE"), self-labeled a democratic region run by the rule of law, has banished at least eight of its citizens over the past 30 days without notice or trial,

b.) WHEREAS, Kantrias has engaged with The LKE on numerous occasions and has entered into regional agreements, such as the Treaty of Claidheamh,

c.) WHEREAS, the Treaty of Claidheamh was agreed to in the spirit of friendship and to recognize a strong foundation of unity between Kantrias and The LKE that is built upon common ideals and common purpose,

d.) WHEREAS, the actions taken by the administration of The LKE require Kantrias to examine the evidence and consider such evidence beyond the shadow of doubt,

e.) WHEREAS, it is the opinion of the Kylian Legislature assembled that The LKE no longer shares common ideals, purpose, or interests with Kantrias,

f.) REITERATING, from Article IV of the Treaty of Claidheamh that the termination of Treaty of Claidheamh shall not be seen as an act of war or hostility,

g.) HEREBY ORDERS, the Minister of Foreign Affairs to initiate the termination of the Treaty of Claidheamh as outlined in Article IV of the Treaty of Claidheamh.

Section II

a.) This Resolution shall take effect immediately upon passage.

b.) Within 36 hours of passage, the Minister of Foreign Affairs shall return a report to certify to the Monarch, or the Regent or other appointed royal representative, and the Speaker of the Kylian Legislature that the Minister has taken the action laid out in this Resolution.

c.) A copy of this Resolution shall be delivered to and archived in the Law Library of Kantrias.

Terra Inferiori Reliquere wrote:It is our topmost principle that an individual shall always be given the chance to defend themselves in a proper trial in accordance with relevant laws, and should not be struck down for speaking up against a regime they no longer recognize as their own.
Terra Inferiori Reliquere wrote:Sadly, It is due to changes within the LKE - some subtle and some much less so - that Kantrias has decided to terminate this historic treaty.

Firstly, I note that, whereas the spoilered resolution above claims that the LKE "has banished at least eight of its citizens [...] without notice or trial", the only two citizens banished without judicial proceedings in the recent situation have been Gankands on 26 March and Hon. Mary Spencer on 17 April. Three others (Valfor Talleyrand, Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand and Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand) have been formally banished under Lettre de cachet after renouncing their citizenship, so it is incorrect to claim that citizens were banished without trial in those cases, or indeed in separate cases where the access of other non-citizens has been removed as a security measure (given the rampant leaking). All Lettre de cachet, issued before or after renunciation of citizenship, have been issued following specific acts of treason, sabotage, espionage and unauthorised disclosure of restricted-access discussions that we could not reasonably be expected to ignore and which (for those who renounced citizenship) may have led to prosecution if they had not left before that point.

Secondly, the statement refers to "relevant laws". This is the "relevant law" in the LKE, contained in Article VII, Section V of the Constitution:
V. Notwithstanding the above, the Emperor may, by issuing a Lettre de cachet, impose a criminal sentence of banishment on a Citizen of the Imperial Demesne as if they had been convicted of an offence and sentenced to the same punishment by the Imperial Courts of Justice. No Citizen of the Imperial Demesne shall be banished unless it is in compliance with an order of the Imperial Courts of Justice, a Lettre de cachet issued by the Emperor in accordance with this section of this Constitution, or an administrative decision.

The authority to issue a Lettre de cachet has been vested in and exercised by LKE Emperors since 2007 and the above wording or very similar has been incorporated within our regional constitution since 2017. Furthermore, the recent use of the power is in keeping with past practice. For example, during the 2018 Mare Nostrum affair, five individuals who held citizenship - not two as in the recent situation - were banished without trial under Lettre de cachet. The constitutional process under the "relevant laws" has been followed and there have been no changes in the LKE's approach in issuing Lettre de cachet.

The "historic treaty" referenced, the Treaty of Claidheamh signed in April 2021 (following our earlier 2012-15 treaty), came long after both Lettre de cachet and past precedents for use in this kind of situation. It cannot be claimed that it was signed in ignorance of either the power to extrajudicially banish citizens or the scenarios in which this power might be used. Moreover, the following provision is contained within the Treaty of Claidheamh:
2. Kantrias recognizes the constitution, government and laws of The LKE and Her Empire as legitimate and agrees not to undermine or overthrow them or to assist any other region in doing so. Kantrias further agrees to offer assistance in the event that another region or organization attempts to overthrow the legitimate government of The LKE or Her colonies.
Not so long ago, Kantrias expressly recognised the legitimacy of the LKE's Constitution, which included this provision allowing the Emperor to banish citizens without trial. There should accordingly be no suggestion that the LKE has changed our policy or acted in a way that Kantrias could not have anticipated.

Overall, I wish Kantrias well, in spite of the end of the treaty, and we agree that prior to this situation such cooperation as has occurred between us has been positive. Given the facts of what has happened and the content of the LKE's law, I trust that it is understood by all parties that the LKE's recent decisions are in keeping with our laws, regional traditions and past actions taken by the Imperial Crown. There is no change in LKE values or policies.

Felix Nulkia, Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors
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Postby The North Polish Union » Mon May 23, 2022 7:50 am

Always happy to see regions end treaties with the LKE. Congratulations! :)
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue May 24, 2022 12:45 am

It continues to amaze me that the LKE continues to belabour their point without a hint of irony. I'm not sure they even understand the argument.

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Postby Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand » Tue May 24, 2022 2:30 pm

I doubt they do
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Postby Roanoke Colony » Thu May 26, 2022 4:53 am

I am glad to see Kantrias and its citizens stand for something.

Indeed, as pointed out previously, this termination is the consequence of a resolution from the Kylian Assembly where every citizen is a member. I am pleased to report that, of those who voted, the Kylian Assembly unanimously was in favor of terminating the treaty. This was not simply done on the opinion of a single member of the community - rather it is an overwhelming and outstanding message from the community at-large. Kantrias and its citizens will no longer stand for the antics and grave practices of regions that are contrary to Kantrias beliefs. As such, the good people of Kantrias agreed that this relationship was no longer conducive to their interests and overwhelmingly voted to terminate it.
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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:05 am

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Citizens of the Kingdom of Kantrias and treasured allies and foreign readers,

On the 28th day of the 5th month of the year 2022, our Minister of Foreign Affairs received a communiqué from the President of the Republic of Europeia. Within this communiqué our Minister was informed that the Republic of Europeia had decided to initiate the process of repealing the Treaty of Quilor.

The Treaty of Quilor was repealed on the 1st day of the 6th month of the year 2022, on the Republic’s forum.

However sad and disappointed we might have been at the start, paled in comparison to how we felt when we were informed of the Republic’s reasoning; they determined it was beyond clear to their leadership that the public statement on current events made by us in our May 2022 - Foreign Affairs Update, was in fact undoubtedly and without uncertainty directed to the Republic’s recent foreign policy decisions. We determined this stance from the wording within their several statements, both official and made in private.

Other arguments provided by the Republic were that we are buying into the Brotherhood of Malice’s elusive narratives, accusing us of talking along the same lines as the Brotherhood of Malice when we decided to terminate the Treaty of Claidheamh between the Kingdom of Kantrias and the Land of Kings and Emperors, thus questioning our independence when it comes to matters of Foreign Affairs. Another reason brought up was that we are being openly critical of the Republic’s foreign affairs decisions and that they were not happy being told to be ‘less fierce’ when it comes to their stance on GP , which they rehashed as ‘Less fierce in defending ourselves’ in a later communication towards our Minister of Foreign Affairs.

The May 2022 - Foreign Affairs Update didn’t actually refer to anyone in particular, which our Minister of Foreign Affairs told the Europeian Diplomats when they inquired about the meaning of our words 16 days prior. Our Minister - at this time - had received words of understanding from the diplomats and just to quote one small part of what our Minister was told during this conversation; “-I think Kantrias’ statement is being read as a rebuke of Europeia by some citizens so I will clarify that with those who have reached out to me. I’m glad to know that it was not specifically about us.” Imagine our surprise when we received the news about the impending repeal 16 days later.

We tried to explain to the President of the Republic of Europeia that we had hoped that the Republic would recognize our decision to terminate the Treaty of Claidheamh was a decision made democratically, by our open legislature. Instead, they decided to twist this around into saying that the Kingdom of Kantrias was ‘parroting’ Brotherhood of Malice ‘talking points’. At this point, we had already provided a rather lengthy explanation for the termination of the treaty in our May 2022 - Foreign Affairs Update as well as the Notice of Termination published later, and decided not to repeat ourselves again. The President of the Republic did not reply to our communications again.

We do however want to state, once more and very clearly, that the Kingdom of Kantrias did not buy into any narrative - BoM’s or anyone else’s - and is not being naive when it comes to our interactions with the Brotherhood of Malice. We concluded for ourselves why we had to terminate the Treaty of Claidheamh, and to do so was decided upon democratically.

It would be a gross understatement to say that the way in which the Republic of Europeia decided to respond, and the words and language used when our ‘ally’ - because the treaty had yet to be repealed at this point - discussed our treaty and its repealing on their forums, disappointed and saddened us.

The pain runs deep and will not be forgotten easily, nor soon.

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His Majesty’s Government
Lady Chancellor
Raeliana Rouvier-Talleyrand

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
His Royal Highness the Prince, Minister of Foreign Affairs,
Skar Quilor

Co-authored by;
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Arran Drake "Skar" Quilor
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Postby Quebecshire » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:51 am

It’s disappointing when any alliances end, though I hope Kantrias shows more regard for the treaties it signs moving forward. It seems that’s been lacking, as seen in the breakup with LKE on the basis of actions entirely supported by LKE’s constitution.

Otherwise, it’s also disappointing to see another region self destructively submit to BoM. When they’re back in history’s dumpster and Europeia is still standing strong, I suspect future Kantrian administrations will look back with regret.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:00 am

It's getting pretty sad that as soon as I read the word "Europeia" on one of these treaty threads, I know when I scroll down there's gonna be some shit about BoM in there. These people are getting strangely obsessed with this isolation campaign, based on bullshit narratives.

Kantrias is a strong-willed region that doesn't deserve the likes of Quebecshire undermining its autonomy by asserting any false "submission" to BoM. For the crime of enjoying casual diplomatic exchanges. From the same people shedding crocodile tears over how raiders supposedly treat independent regions...give me a fucking break.

I hope Kantrias will come to see this as addition by subtraction with time.
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Postby Quebecshire » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:08 am

If Kantrias is as strong willed as you insist, I look forward to seeing them lead any operations of their own, as opposed to just supporting BoM and co. Perhaps it’s a tall ask, but you’re kind of walking into this one, eh?

I can’t imagine a world in which BoM is better either as a standard partner or an ally then Europeia. You’d think a region as old as Kantrias would recognize there’s more to foreign interests than a quick high off a couple wins, a trend which has already started reversing.

I do appreciate how you rushed to spread salt about as quickly as New England road maintenance workers in January, though.
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Postby Reventus Koth » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:17 am

Quebecshire wrote:If Kantrias is as strong willed as you insist, I look forward to seeing them lead any operations of their own, as opposed to just supporting BoM and co. Perhaps it’s a tall ask, but you’re kind of walking into this one, eh?

I can’t imagine a world in which BoM is better either as a standard partner or an ally then Europeia. You’d think a region as old as Kantrias would recognize there’s more to foreign interests than a quick high off a couple wins, a trend which has already started reversing.

I do appreciate how you rushed to spread salt about as quickly as New England road maintenance workers in January, though.

I'm not at all afraid to publicly state that Kantrias has our endos whenever they ask for them. That they have not done so up to this point is not indicative of any sort of senior/junior partnership, and again undermines Kantrias' autonomy.

Kantrias didn't choose any other region over Europeia, did you even read the statement? Europeia slammed the door in their faces, it's disingenuous to assert anything about their foreign interests when it starts off with "Europeia did this, and this is how we feel about it".

As for rushing to salt, anyone with any sort of reading comprehension can identify who posted first.
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Postby Evil Mother » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:45 am

I love that this statement went from “they accused us of being BoM bootlickers” to Koth showing up to defend and argue for Kantrias and thereby proving all of our points himself in under 2 seconds
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Reventus Koth
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Postby Reventus Koth » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:55 am

Evil Mother wrote:I love that this statement went from “they accused us of being BoM bootlickers” to Koth showing up to defend and argue for Kantrias and thereby proving all of our points himself in under 2 seconds

Europeia repealed a treaty almost entirely based on bullshit narratives about my region. The first post after the statement continued to invoke BoM. And you're wondering why I posted? They teach critical thinking in like 2nd grade.
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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:57 am

Quebecshire wrote:It’s disappointing when any alliances end, though I hope Kantrias shows more regard for the treaties it signs moving forward. It seems that’s been lacking, as seen in the breakup with LKE on the basis of actions entirely supported by LKE’s constitution.

Otherwise, it’s also disappointing to see another region self destructively submit to BoM. When they’re back in history’s dumpster and Europeia is still standing strong, I suspect future Kantrian administrations will look back with regret.

You know what else is disappointing? Defenders who suck up to anything against Raiders and repeat the same rhetoric over and over again until they begin to believe their own delusions.

I once again repeat, very clearly, that we do not buy into any narrative and will fiercely resist any attempts at claims that the Kingdom of Kantrias submits to anyone.

Reventus Koth wrote:Kantrias is a strong-willed region that doesn't deserve the likes of Quebecshire undermining its autonomy by asserting any false "submission" to BoM. For the crime of enjoying casual diplomatic exchanges. From the same people shedding crocodile tears over how raiders supposedly treat independent regions...give me a fucking break.

I'd certainly like a break myself. I didn't enjoy writing this, and I definitely don't enjoy reading whatever this farce Quebecshire is performing is supposed to be.

Quebecshire wrote:I can’t imagine a world in which BoM is better either as a standard partner or an ally then Europeia. You’d think a region as old as Kantrias would recognize there’s more to foreign interests than a quick high off a couple wins, a trend which has already started reversing.

A region as old as Kantrias indeed does recognize that there is more to foreign interests than a quick high. I don't recognize what 'trend' you are talking about, but rest assured, Quebecshire, you have nothing to worry about when it comes to Kantrias' Foreign Affairs policies.
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Postby Minskiev » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:00 am

Bro malice and kantrias even RHYME and y’all still pretending
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Postby Terra Inferiori Reliquere » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:01 am

Minskiev wrote:Bro malice and kantrias even RHYME and y’all still pretending

Wait so, because our names rhyme we are pretending?

Lmao. I can't.
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