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Postby Adamede » Wed May 11, 2022 5:42 pm

Dtn wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If you cant decide between the people who literally rape ten year olds (and we have that on record btw), and their opponents... then why are you here?


https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2016/08/7/7117042/

remember when ukraine released these guys three days after the war started

it's reasonable not to strongly take sides in an eastern european shitshow

Not really. This is one of the few wars were there's a very clear good and bad side, and Russia isn't the good guy here.

And that doesn't change the fact that the Russians have been conducting mass rape in Ukraine, including of children, often forcing their families to watch.

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 5:53 pm

Chan Island wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:i do care but it's not fair why should the world only care about ukraine, and why does russia have to be punished but not the usa?


You evidently don't- if you did, you'd have the empathy the understand why we care about ukraine here and be glad that we refuse to let these horrors go in darkness.

In actuality, you only care about the politics. And in your case you're mad that the US isn't being punished for crimes in the Middle East and believe that this war is distracting us from that.
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:i don't believe them anymore they lied to us about the ghost of kyiv and it's war so they will do anything to get attention


There is a vast amount of evidence that the Russian army has raped toddlers in Ukraine- specifically we know it's occurred in Irpin, Mariupol and Bucha.

The fact you don't want to believe it because "lol ghost of kiev" says more about you than anything else.

and why should they not,they should punshie the usa it has done much more worst thing then russia, it started armed conflict in six different countries,yemen,syria,iraq,somalia,libya,

it has killed thousands with it's drone strikes

and how do you even know it's true they could be saying a bunch of shit to get attention.

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Postby Adamede » Wed May 11, 2022 5:55 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
You evidently don't- if you did, you'd have the empathy the understand why we care about ukraine here and be glad that we refuse to let these horrors go in darkness.

In actuality, you only care about the politics. And in your case you're mad that the US isn't being punished for crimes in the Middle East and believe that this war is distracting us from that.

There is a vast amount of evidence that the Russian army has raped toddlers in Ukraine- specifically we know it's occurred in Irpin, Mariupol and Bucha.

The fact you don't want to believe it because "lol ghost of kiev" says more about you than anything else.

and why should they not,they should punshie the usa it has done much more worst thing then russia, it started armed conflict in six different countries,yemen,syria,iraq,somalia,libya,

it has killed thousands with it's drone strikes

and how do you even know it's true they could be saying a bunch of shit to get attention.

Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 5:57 pm

Adamede wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:and why should they not,they should punshie the usa it has done much more worst thing then russia, it started armed conflict in six different countries,yemen,syria,iraq,somalia,libya,

it has killed thousands with it's drone strikes

and how do you even know it's true they could be saying a bunch of shit to get attention.

Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed May 11, 2022 5:59 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda


basesly handwaving war crimes to own the US. Classy
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Postby Adamede » Wed May 11, 2022 6:02 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda

Well I guess all the supposed war crimes in Syria and Yemen are just loads of propaganda.

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Postby Picairn » Wed May 11, 2022 6:07 pm

Dtn wrote:https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2016/08/7/7117042/

remember when ukraine released these guys three days after the war started

doubtful anyone with a ukraine flag knows who Tetiana Chornovol is but she's not exactly pro-russian

it's reasonable not to strongly take sides in an eastern european shitshow

(also perhaps more horrific but the child on videotape was most likely his own since by most accounts he got a car seat violation in Krasnodar in early March and his military service seems to have ended in 2018)

Ukraine isn't a haven of freedom and democracy, but Russia is the principal aggressor for invading a sovereign country and instituting a genocide. One can recognize Ukraine's war crimes and still take a strong stand against Russia's invasion.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You have failed the most basic of morality tests...
i don't believe them anymore they lied to us about the ghost of kyiv and it's war so they will do anything to get attention


we have evidence of one and the other was just a rumor. those are not equivalent.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed May 11, 2022 6:10 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda


I think you’re fake

any evidence that implies that you exist was fabricated.
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Wed May 11, 2022 6:11 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Chan Island wrote:
You evidently don't- if you did, you'd have the empathy the understand why we care about ukraine here and be glad that we refuse to let these horrors go in darkness.

In actuality, you only care about the politics. And in your case you're mad that the US isn't being punished for crimes in the Middle East and believe that this war is distracting us from that.

There is a vast amount of evidence that the Russian army has raped toddlers in Ukraine- specifically we know it's occurred in Irpin, Mariupol and Bucha.

The fact you don't want to believe it because "lol ghost of kiev" says more about you than anything else.

and why should they not,they should punshie the usa it has done much more worst thing then russia, it started armed conflict in six different countries,yemen,syria,iraq,somalia,libya,

it has killed thousands with it's drone strikes

and how do you even know it's true they could be saying a bunch of shit to get attention.


yeah, the US has done some horrible stuff. why does this mean that Russia’s horrible actions aren’t bad?
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Postby Vistulange » Wed May 11, 2022 6:27 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda

And I'm the Queen of the UK.

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Postby Dtn » Wed May 11, 2022 6:28 pm

Picairn wrote:Ukraine isn't a haven of freedom and democracy, but Russia is the principal aggressor for invading a sovereign country and instituting a genocide. One can recognize Ukraine's war crimes and still take a strong stand against Russia's invasion.


I think I'm with Macron on the whole genocide thing.

What exactly would I personally take a "strong stand?" Finger-wagging online might give me a little oxytocin shot but I prefer to reflect on the universal flaws of humanity (including myself) that lead to these situations.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed May 11, 2022 6:29 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda

with every post you sink further into a moral abyss.
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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:33 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:and why should they not,they should punshie the usa it has done much more worst thing then russia, it started armed conflict in six different countries,yemen,syria,iraq,somalia,libya,

it has killed thousands with it's drone strikes

and how do you even know it's true they could be saying a bunch of shit to get attention.


yeah, the US has done some horrible stuff. why does this mean that Russia’s horrible actions aren’t bad?
if no one cared enough to do a thing the usa is glories and when russia dose one thing it's an outrages and to call us uncivilized when we started civilizen itself do you have no shame?

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:39 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda


basesly handwaving war crimes to own the US. Classy

shut yo dumb ass up the us has done more war crimes than any other country

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:40 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda

with every post you sink further into a moral abyss.

oh no :eek:

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 11, 2022 6:40 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
basesly handwaving war crimes to own the US. Classy

shut yo dumb ass up the us has done more war crimes than any other country

Lol.

Oh wait you’re serious? Let me laugh harder.

Lol lol hahahahahahaha
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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:41 pm

Vistulange wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda

And I'm the Queen of the UK.
so funny

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:42 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:shut yo dumb ass up the us has done more war crimes than any other country

Lol.

Oh wait you’re serious? Let me laugh harder.

Lol lol hahahahahahaha
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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:45 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda


I think you’re fake

any evidence that implies that you exist was fabricated.

yet here i am dumbass

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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:46 pm

Adamede wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda

Well I guess all the supposed war crimes in Syria and Yemen are just loads of propaganda.

will then show me your evidence

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Postby HISPIDA » Wed May 11, 2022 6:46 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
basesly handwaving war crimes to own the US. Classy

shut yo dumb ass up the us has done more war crimes than any other country

*looks over shoulder*

i don't think the US did that
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 11, 2022 6:47 pm

Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:
Adamede wrote:Probably the thousands of rape victims coming from Russian occupation zones saying they were raped by Russian soldiers.

could be a load of propaganda

could be, but is that the likeliest possibility? or do you think it's maybe possible that soldiers raped some people during an invasion?
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Postby Holy Can Kichrianiestalif » Wed May 11, 2022 6:51 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:could be a load of propaganda

could be, but is that the likeliest possibility? or do you think it's maybe possible that soldiers raped some people during an invasion?

it's a war ofc but there is no evidence so how can i believe in something without evidence?

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed May 11, 2022 6:53 pm

Hispida wrote:
Holy Can Kichrianiestalif wrote:shut yo dumb ass up the us has done more war crimes than any other country

*looks over shoulder*

i don't think the US did that

Or ya know the centuries worth of war crimes that existed prior to the US even existing
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