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by Hidrandia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:59 pm
by Malaiya Union » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:46 pm
State of Imperial Russia wrote:The dead star at the center of the Red Spider Nebula isn't as hot as this take:
All international alliances must cease to exist, or there will be yet another threat of another world war. The Triple Entente and the Triple Alliance had done it in the Great War, and the Axis and Allies did in the Second World War, and now, with the relationship between Commonwealth of Independent States and the European Union, it seems very likely that the war in Ukraine won't be the end of this conflict.
If countries continue to supply the Ukrainians, a larger war will break out, and millions more will die. All because of what? To make yourself seem more righteous? To give your country the little ego boost that it so desperately craves? Let the Ukrainians and Russians fight without foreign aid, and let them settle the conflict themselves. Whoever wins, wins, and that's the end of it.
by Umeria » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:55 pm
Malaiya Union wrote:Indeed the only way to get world peace is for insane fascist states like Russia to know its place. That place being governed by the fact that the Russian economy is smaller than Italy. The importance of Russia in the world stage should be corrected to the levels of below that of Italy, and not more.
by State of Imperial Russia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:03 pm
Malaiya Union wrote:State of Imperial Russia wrote:The dead star at the center of the Red Spider Nebula isn't as hot as this take:
All international alliances must cease to exist, or there will be yet another threat of another world war. The Triple Entente and the Triple Alliance had done it in the Great War, and the Axis and Allies did in the Second World War, and now, with the relationship between Commonwealth of Independent States and the European Union, it seems very likely that the war in Ukraine won't be the end of this conflict.
If countries continue to supply the Ukrainians, a larger war will break out, and millions more will die. All because of what? To make yourself seem more righteous? To give your country the little ego boost that it so desperately craves? Let the Ukrainians and Russians fight without foreign aid, and let them settle the conflict themselves. Whoever wins, wins, and that's the end of it.
If the West keeps supplying Ukraine, Russia will run out of troops and weapon and will become militarily destroyed. If Russia is militarily destroyed it will lose the physical ability to commit "a larger war", and the world will be more peaceful, and both Ukraine and Europe will be able to stand on its own feet without the threat of another Russian invasion. China will also become significantly deterred against a Taiwanese invasion, and meanwhile the Chinese model of international politics works best without war. A sane China will not invade Taiwan and will instead continue pursue its project as America's political and economic competitor; an insane China will do the reverse.
Indeed the only way to get world peace is for insane fascist states like Russia to know its place. That place being governed by the fact that the Russian economy is smaller than Italy. The importance of Russia in the world stage should be corrected to the levels of below that of Italy, and not more.
And meanwhile MAD has already prevented a world war between America and the Soviets.
by Malaiya Union » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:57 pm
Umeria wrote:Malaiya Union wrote:Indeed the only way to get world peace is for insane fascist states like Russia to know its place. That place being governed by the fact that the Russian economy is smaller than Italy. The importance of Russia in the world stage should be corrected to the levels of below that of Italy, and not more.
That's not world peace, that's conflict with the "good guys" winning. It's totally fine for that to be your goal, but be honest about what it is.
by Umeria » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:01 pm
Malaiya Union wrote:Umeria wrote:That's not world peace, that's conflict with the "good guys" winning. It's totally fine for that to be your goal, but be honest about what it is.
To be fair there exist two choices for the state of the world: a divided world with the risks of a Great War, or a unified world under the heels of a wank superpower. Pick one.
by Malaiya Union » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:03 pm
by Malaiya Union » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:09 pm
State of Imperial Russia wrote:Ukraine means ABSOLUTELY nothing to ninety percent of the world. It's a corrupt, falsely "democratic" state that depends on foreign supplies. Ukraine's allies are prolonging the inevitable, and costing millions of more lives than what would've been lost if they just ignored this conflict.
by Maraband » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:23 pm
Malaiya Union wrote:State of Imperial Russia wrote:Ukraine means ABSOLUTELY nothing to ninety percent of the world. It's a corrupt, falsely "democratic" state that depends on foreign supplies. Ukraine's allies are prolonging the inevitable, and costing millions of more lives than what would've been lost if they just ignored this conflict.
Reality however differed: Bucha has shown what will happen to Ukraine if Russia conquers it. The defense of Ukraine is now in the Ukrainian's self interest and they have acted accordingly.
And the Russian war of conquest has violated the one single, most sacred post-war international principle: there can be no more wars of conquest in Europe, forever. The entirety of the EU and European economic and political policies - the European Project - orbits around this principle. One of the main purpose of the EU is for example to restructure the German and French political, economic, and cultural system such that a war between them becomes simply inconceivable.
by Malaiya Union » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:35 pm
Maraband wrote:Malaiya Union wrote:Reality however differed: Bucha has shown what will happen to Ukraine if Russia conquers it. The defense of Ukraine is now in the Ukrainian's self interest and they have acted accordingly.
And the Russian war of conquest has violated the one single, most sacred post-war international principle: there can be no more wars of conquest in Europe, forever. The entirety of the EU and European economic and political policies - the European Project - orbits around this principle. One of the main purpose of the EU is for example to restructure the German and French political, economic, and cultural system such that a war between them becomes simply inconceivable.
Westerners are going insane over it simply because Ukraine is a western ally and Russia was the west's biggest enemy if it weren't for that nobody would give two sh!ts about a poor country at war
Examples of this include Myanmar, Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen and Nigeria (banditry and Boko Haram)
by The Blaatschapen » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:11 am
State of Imperial Russia wrote:The dead star at the center of the Red Spider Nebula isn't as hot as this take:
All international alliances must cease to exist, or there will be yet another threat of another world war. The Triple Entente and the Triple Alliance had done it in the Great War, and the Axis and Allies did in the Second World War, and now, with the relationship between Commonwealth of Independent States and the European Union, it seems very likely that the war in Ukraine won't be the end of this conflict.
If countries continue to supply the Ukrainians, a larger war will break out, and millions more will die. All because of what? To make yourself seem more righteous? To give your country the little ego boost that it so desperately craves? Let the Ukrainians and Russians fight without foreign aid, and let them settle the conflict themselves. Whoever wins, wins, and that's the end of it.
by Mettaton-EX » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:47 am
Malaiya Union wrote:The average man is as intelligent as the average woman. However, the distribution of intelligence in men is more extreme, meaning that there are numerically both more male geniuses and intellectually disableds.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:51 am
Mettaton-EX wrote:Malaiya Union wrote:The average man is as intelligent as the average woman. However, the distribution of intelligence in men is more extreme, meaning that there are numerically both more male geniuses and intellectually disableds.
ah here's a hot take: there's no such thing as "intelligence", or at least not in the way that most pople think of it
by Haganham » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:47 am
by Czardas » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:15 am
Haganham wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Oh yes there is. Whether an IQ test effectively measures it is a different question.
The IQ test doesn't measure intelligence, by design. It measures intellectual disability.if you take it seriously, you are intellectually disabled
But seriously. They were designed to help identify people with intellectual disabilities. Scores above 100 just mean "this person doesn't have a intellectual disability,.. probably."
by Kernen » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:42 am
by Free Algerstonia » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:57 pm
by Port Caverton » Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:59 pm
Umeria wrote:Malaiya Union wrote:Indeed the only way to get world peace is for insane fascist states like Russia to know its place. That place being governed by the fact that the Russian economy is smaller than Italy. The importance of Russia in the world stage should be corrected to the levels of below that of Italy, and not more.
That's not world peace, that's conflict with the "good guys" winning. It's totally fine for that to be your goal, but be honest about what it is.
by Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:04 pm
by Port Caverton » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:17 pm
paired with hawks don't accuse everyone they disagree with of siding with the enemy challenge (even more impossible)
by Umeria » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:21 pm
Port Caverton wrote:paired with hawks don't accuse everyone they disagree with of siding with the enemy challenge (even more impossible)
When the conflict is as black and white as this one, it really is.
by Port Caverton » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:28 pm
Port Caverton wrote:When the conflict is as black and white as this one, it really is.
I thought we were speaking in general terms.
by Umeria » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:33 pm
by Port Caverton » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:38 pm
Umeria wrote:Port Caverton wrote:If we control the whole world there won't be any other countries to start war with, so yes it is peace.
Countries are not the only entities capable of engaging in conflict. If the people in one of the regions you're occupying decide they don't like your regime and start a revolt, that's not peace.
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