You need an asterisk there. You'll find there are a decent number of forms that aren't.
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by Untecna » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:22 am
by Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:36 am
Mauroa wrote:Hello NSGPers <3
I created this dispatch here to bring awareness to the rise of radical and dangerous ideologies across nationstates. We need to work together to stop this advertisement of said ideologies which has caused hundreds of millions of deaths world wide. Remember what your ancestors fought for! As of right now there are less than ten regions on the list, but I will continue to further the list as my investigations continue for regions that are eligable for this list. Right now I would consider these probably the most dangerous regions on the site, whether it be IC politics or OOC politics. Any questions please just ask down below.
Dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1693567
by Thousand Branches » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:32 am
by Wallowis » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:34 am
Wallowis now the head of Cylis Treaty and Arbitration Organisation. ULIBOR disbanded by Wallowis. Wallowis passes act of permanent neutrality. Survey shows people disinterested in global politics. Wallowis on the fence over entry into World Assembly. Economy stagnating, economists warn.
Hispida wrote:english is a rather tough language. you can learn it through tough thorough thought, though.
by Australiem » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:38 am
by Rick Perry » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:05 am
Thousand Branches wrote:Why are we giving this attention again? Oh right for no good reason. Let this die guys, we’re not helping anything.
by Australiem » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:11 am
Rick Perry wrote:We are here to try to attempt to end the horrible lies of communism.
by Rick Perry » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:29 am
by Haganham » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:12 am
Malphe II wrote:Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.
by Rick Perry » Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:58 am
Malphe II wrote:Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.
by Untecna » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:20 am
by Reventus Koth » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:45 am
Xanthal wrote:Only raiders can win in this war- a defender can keep them from winning one region, one update at a time, but there will always be the next region, the next update, and the next, forever.
by Rick Perry » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:46 am
Untecna wrote:Rick Perry wrote:It is though.
How is it equivalent to fascism?
Communism hasn't yet been implemented; in fact, all "communist" states are still... states. Communism generally calls for the abolition of the state, and so they are not communist but socialist.
Socialist ideology also does not call for extermination of those deemed "not perfect".
Fascist ideologies and those near them have caused far more death than socialist ones, especially if we count in the deaths of capitalism overall, of which fascism is still a subscriber to.
Socialist states have lasted far longer in total than fascist countries.
Both sides have had shitty leaders. That's where they are equal.
Otherwise, it's not even close.
by The Aber » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:47 am
✷THE EMPIRE OF THE ABER✷
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✷ “LHOKYRHADJDISTUZIN. LHOKYRHADJUDNTIZIN. LHOKYRHADJDAILUTNZIN.” ✷
"AS SHE WAS. AS SHE IS. AS SHE SHALL BE."
by The Aber » Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:48 am
Rick Perry wrote:Untecna wrote:How is it equivalent to fascism?
Communism hasn't yet been implemented; in fact, all "communist" states are still... states. Communism generally calls for the abolition of the state, and so they are not communist but socialist.
Socialist ideology also does not call for extermination of those deemed "not perfect".
Fascist ideologies and those near them have caused far more death than socialist ones, especially if we count in the deaths of capitalism overall, of which fascism is still a subscriber to.
Socialist states have lasted far longer in total than fascist countries.
Both sides have had shitty leaders. That's where they are equal.
Otherwise, it's not even close.
Both fascism and communism, communist and fascist countries don't give a damn about peoples freedom.
✷THE EMPIRE OF THE ABER✷
(AIYBYROULTEUKILR / AAFL’AOULTEUKILRE-SEKYNZUVE DJ’AIYBYRADM)
✷ “LHOKYRHADJDISTUZIN. LHOKYRHADJUDNTIZIN. LHOKYRHADJDAILUTNZIN.” ✷
"AS SHE WAS. AS SHE IS. AS SHE SHALL BE."
by Untecna » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:21 pm
Rick Perry wrote:Untecna wrote:How is it equivalent to fascism?
Communism hasn't yet been implemented; in fact, all "communist" states are still... states. Communism generally calls for the abolition of the state, and so they are not communist but socialist.
Socialist ideology also does not call for extermination of those deemed "not perfect".
Fascist ideologies and those near them have caused far more death than socialist ones, especially if we count in the deaths of capitalism overall, of which fascism is still a subscriber to.
Socialist states have lasted far longer in total than fascist countries.
Both sides have had shitty leaders. That's where they are equal.
Otherwise, it's not even close.
Both fascism and communism, communist and fascist countries don't give a damn about peoples freedom.
by Warzone Codger » Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:33 pm
by Australiem » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:16 pm
by The Aber » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:31 pm
Australiem wrote:You have to be special to think communism and fascism are the same. Communism wants the social ownership of all property and the absence of social classes, money, and the state. But they use the state to be able to enact these changes since having a lawless anarchy land would just cause those things to come back anyway. Once power is gone, it creates a power struggle where people will do everything to become a strong leader. So, communism needs the state so there isn't a power struggle and to make sure everyone is equal in their eyes. Once again, I believe this will never work.
But fascism, on the other hand, doesn't give a fuck about any of that. For fascism, it's about the people, but it's about protecting them from themselves in an extremely ordered and structured society. Each person has their own job and they should do it well. Doing anything against the state is a rebellious action and should be dealt with swiftly and accordingly. Fascism doesn't care if everything is equal and the lower class workers get the same accommodation as the higher class people. They believe that it is the survival of the strongest. If you get to a high place in society through strength and power, then you should keep that. Fascism has a very organised and structured culture.
So, if you look at both, you can see that communism is much more about everyone being equal and having no structures from the classes. This means everyone gets treated the same no matter the outcome, except for the state, which enacts the culture in the communist society so the class structure doesn't come back into the society. While fascism is all about structure and making sure that everyone is in their respectful place and doing their job correctly, and that if you have the willpower and you are strong enough to move up the classes, then you can do so, but you shouldn't expect the government to help you.
✷THE EMPIRE OF THE ABER✷
(AIYBYROULTEUKILR / AAFL’AOULTEUKILRE-SEKYNZUVE DJ’AIYBYRADM)
✷ “LHOKYRHADJDISTUZIN. LHOKYRHADJUDNTIZIN. LHOKYRHADJDAILUTNZIN.” ✷
"AS SHE WAS. AS SHE IS. AS SHE SHALL BE."
by The Church of Satan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:05 am
by Life empire » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:18 am
Malphe II wrote:Communism is not an equivalent to fascism and you're not impressing anyone with this, yadda yadda.
by Luna Amore » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:45 am
by Klaus Devestatorie » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:22 am
by German Territories » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:51 am
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