Ukrainian War Thread III: The Horrors

[Thermodolia]

There is no contradiction between my words, so far as I can tell.

I won't expose myself to risk, but won't bat at eye towards risking other people if I'm in a position to do so. Because from my perspective its more consequence free.

So you’re going to be that dick of an officer who everyone hates because they won’t risk shit and run away from danger. Basically you’re the most likely candidate to be fragged.

Sort of like how most people post online differently than how they behave in real life, because the expectation is that there is just enough anonymity to not have it be connected to your real identity, if you don't reveal too much or make a mistake.

Oh so you’re a liar.

Also you don’t have a college education either so you aren’t going to be an officer

I don't have a 4 year degree, but do have the lowest tier. I technically did graduate a degree program with Cum Laude. I'm sure I can get any amount of college I want with enough time and money spent on it, but I'm very much soured on the concept being that it doesn't work out or has a high chance of being a debt trap. If I ever go again, it'll be making damn sure it'll be lucrative. Even if I don't enjoy the subject matter one bit.

I have my doubts that any of the Taliban's officers for example, went to any formal war college. Ukraine probably has some. I'd be interested to learn of its operations in a war context? Is it closed down or is it business as usual because churning out the officers can't just stop just because explosions are happening outside?

Ok? But the US military has ruled and regulations that must be followed and so far it sounds more likely that you’d end up being court martial’d under Article 133, article 37, article 77, & article 80 of the UCMJ. Have fun sitting in Leavenworth for the rest of your life.

But anyway all you can do at this moment is enlist and then move to the rank of Sargent and become a warrant officer as they only need 2 year degrees

[Fahran]

There’s virtue in leading by example and in not asking subordinates to do that which you yourself would avoid. For instance, with my sorority, the officers made a habit of visibly donating time and money to our philanthropy. Often, we didn’t need to even ask the actives to follow suit. They saw older, respected sisters conducting themselves in this way and understood that it was important to our values.

I imagine leadership of this sort is even more important in the military where men and women are asked to risk far more, and many make the ultimate sacrifice. Why would you want to follow officers who are cowardly, don’t care about what happens to you, and won’t share in your risks, burdens, and sacrifices? From what I’ve heard from the men in my family, a leader who won’t stick his head out and won’t suffer alongside his people doesn’t deserve respect. And, as Thermy said, fragging was absolutely a thing.

[The Archregimancy]

The Ukrainian refugee that my wife and I are sponsoring for a UK visa will arrive to live with us on Friday.

The UK visa application process took two weeks; longer than it should, but a significant improvement on when the process was launched. We then had a short pause making travel arrangements, but overall we've able to do this in less than a month.

[Sordhau]

The Ukrainian refugee that my wife and I are sponsoring for a UK visa will arrive to live with us on Friday.

The UK visa application process took two weeks; longer than it should, but a significant improvement on when the process was launched. We then had a short pause making travel arrangements, but overall we've able to do this in less than a month.

Here's hoping it goes well.

[Chan Island]

The Ukrainian refugee that my wife and I are sponsoring for a UK visa will arrive to live with us on Friday.

The UK visa application process took two weeks; longer than it should, but a significant improvement on when the process was launched. We then had a short pause making travel arrangements, but overall we've able to do this in less than a month.

Mad respect for you, genuinely.

[Senkaku]

I don't have a 4 year degree, but do have the lowest tier. I technically did graduate a degree program with Cum Laude.

Latin honors… for your community college associate’s degree?

I'm sure I can get any amount of college I want with enough time and money spent on it, but I'm very much soured on the concept being that it doesn't work out or has a high chance of being a debt trap. If I ever go again, it'll be making damn sure it'll be lucrative. Even if I don't enjoy the subject matter one bit.

Well, I’m pretty sure West Point or Annapolis aren’t going to be giving you scholarships lol

I have my doubts that any of the Taliban's officers for example, went to any formal war college. Ukraine probably has some. I'd be interested to learn of its operations in a war context? Is it closed down or is it business as usual because churning out the officers can't just stop just because explosions are happening outside?

Earlier it was incessant self-pity about how you have a shitty eye so you’re disqualified from service; did you get Lasik and an even worse attitude in the past day, or what

[Corrian]

Fuck the Azov batallion, literal terrorists. They used civilians and residential areas as human shields, and executed anyone who wanted to surrender.

Your statement is also flawed; Russia controls 99% of Mariupol, negotiating should continue to avoid further casaulties on all sides, and a rescue mission is impossible because Ukraine a)doesn't have offensive abilities, and b)doesn't care,

Also, Mariupol is part of DPR, not Ukraine, and a clear majority of people are Pro-Russia.

May the Donbas offensive be successful!

You right now.

I made the mistake of watching that video while drinking something.

[Adamede]

They're nothing new:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22anti-tank+truck%22&client=firefox-b-1-d&sxsrf=APq-WBvRq6B6JeQ45p7lwcg9EA2PBamtAA:1650430495804&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiO6rbb7KH3AhW_pIkEHY4JDG4Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1920&bih=844&dpr=1

Putting a gun on a military vehicle is leagues apart from arming a truck with airplane anti-tank missiles to shoot at ships, which may or may not be out of range.

Not really. I don't think Boris is talking about pickups, but rather flatbeds.

[Picairn]

The Russian flag is hoisted above the entrance to the city of Rubezhnoye. It's likely the city has fallen to Russian control.

Avdiivka under attack.

[Adamede]

I assume that the word used in the original was the Commonwealth English lorry. Technically, lorry is a much broader term than the American English truck (usually called a small lorry).

No truck is pretty broad too.

[Corrian]

BIG NEWS

NATO did some sort of fuckery and the Pentagon is now saying Ukraine's air force was enlarged after a "undisclosed country" (read: Poland) delivered MiG's and spare parts to them.

Wait did we finally give them the planes?

[Adamede]

————————————————At least can explain where the military costs spends ：
Washington(CNN)The US has few ways to track the substantial supply of anti-tank, anti-aircraft and other weaponry it has sent across the border into Ukraine, sources tell CNN, a blind spot that's due in large part to the lack of US boots on the ground in the country -- and the easy portability of many of the smaller systems now pouring across the border.
"We have fidelity for a short time, but when it enters the fog of war, we have almost zero," said one source briefed on US intelligence. "It drops into a big black hole, and you have almost no sense of it at all after a short period of time."
————————————————Ukraine needs a big story to get back on the map
According to Google Trends, world viewers are losing interest in the Ukraine conflict.
After a sharp rise in early March, attention to the fighting itself has been steadily declining
Ukrainian news channels accused Turkey of invading northern Iraq and "distracting" the entire world from Ukraine.
————————————————U.S. focus also shifts to Asia-Pacific
[US Naval Institute Newswire, April 13, 2022] This week, following conversations between the U.S. Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State with India, the State Department issued a release stating that the United States and India are considering the possibility of having Indian shipyards maintain and repair U.S. Military Sealift Command ships in support of underway maintenance of U.S. Navy vessels.
————————————————As long as the EU keeps paying, everything will be fine
The 95th Air Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian Army has not been paid for two months. The Ukrainian soldiers released a video asking the Ukrainian National Security Service to investigate the financial department and personnel within the 95th Brigade to find out how much they have withheld from their pay. The response from the finance department to the 95th Brigade officers and soldiers inquiring about their pay was, "Aren't you all killed in war?"

Generally good policy to post links.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

The Ukrainian refugee that my wife and I are sponsoring for a UK visa will arrive to live with us on Friday.

The UK visa application process took two weeks; longer than it should, but a significant improvement on when the process was launched. We then had a short pause making travel arrangements, but overall we've able to do this in less than a month.

How cool. I wish I were in a position to do that.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

No truck is pretty broad too.

It can, but lorry (by itself) usually refers to a large truck (like a Mack truck). The term truck by itself can refer to any size of truck, including a pickup (a small lorry).

[Fartsniffage]

I assume that the word used in the original was the Commonwealth English lorry. Technically, lorry is a much broader term than the American English truck (usually called a small lorry).

No truck is pretty broad too.

It's probably these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyland_4-tonne_truck

We're due to be getting rid of them soon anyway.

[Thermodolia]

BIG NEWS

NATO did some sort of fuckery and the Pentagon is now saying Ukraine's air force was enlarged after a "undisclosed country" (read: Poland) delivered MiG's and spare parts to them.

Wait did we finally give them the planes?

The planes came from what’s assumed to be Poland, Romania, and Czech Republic

[Corrian]

Wait did we finally give them the planes?

The planes came from what’s assumed to be Poland, Romania, and Czech Republic

But at least Poland wanted reinforcements (Planes from the US) in exchange for theirs going to Ukraine.

[Picairn]

The city of Sieverodonetsk, a city of 121,000 people according to the 2009 census, is at the head of a Ukrainian salient between Kreminna and Popasna, the former under Russian control and the latter contested. Needless to say it is at a serious risk of encirclement alongside the nearby city of Lysychansk, a city of nearly 100,000.

[Picairn]

Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock says it will stop importing Russian oil "by the end of the year".

[Corrian]

Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock says it will stop importing Russian oil "by the end of the year".

Meanwhile they continue to fund the Russian war for another 8 months.

[Utquiagvik]

Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock says it will stop importing Russian oil "by the end of the year".

Meanwhile they continue to fund the Russian war for another 8 months.

Germany needs to stop importing any Russian oil. Crimes such as Genocide, Rape and Destruction are all funded if goods are imported from Russia.

[Christian Confederation]

Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock says it will stop importing Russian oil "by the end of the year".

Meanwhile they continue to fund the Russian war for another 8 months.

Assuming a peace agreement isn't made before winter.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Assuming a peace agreement isn't made before winter.

Of course, funding the Russian petrostate could give Russia move [sic, more] of an upper hand in peace negotiations.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Valery Kuleshov, a collaborator in Kherson who was trying to become (or maybe already was, I found conflicting information) the head of a pro-Russian police force was shot dead this morning as he left his apartment. The city has also been home to pretty regular anti-Russia protests since it was occupied.

Even in areas where the Russians should be popular on paper their collaborators are being killed and people don't accept their rule. That does not bode well for their chances of holding onto anywhere they take even assuming Ukraine does agree to give up land, which by all accounts they won't.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

Valery Kuleshov, a collaborator in Kherson who was trying to become (or maybe already was, I found conflicting information) the head of a pro-Russian police force was shot dead this morning as he left his apartment. The city has also been home to pretty regular anti-Russia protests since it was occupied.

Even in areas where the Russians should be popular on paper their collaborators are being killed and people don't accept their rule. That does not bode well for their chances of holding onto anywhere they take even assuming Ukraine does agree to give up land, which by all accounts they won't.

Hopefully they won't enact stricter totalitarian measures, surely they're smart enough to realise that fascistic cruelty will only increase resentment and dissent... right?