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Remnants of Exilvania
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Indeed. If Ry where to change his app slightly, he could easily get it all, provided he finishes before Deblar.
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Theyra
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Postby Theyra » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:45 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Theyra wrote:
Okay edited. Better?

Almost perfect, I just need a further clarification about the army numbers because I'm not certain. Do you mean to say that you have a semi-volunteer official military numbering 500,000 men, and besides from that an extra irregular force of about 600,000 men?


Yes

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Draos
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Postby Draos » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:56 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Indeed. If Ry where to change his app slightly, he could easily get it all, provided he finishes before Deblar.
if Deblar does after he can still apply for like Scandinavia
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:58 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Indeed. If Ry where to change his app slightly, he could easily get it all, provided he finishes before Deblar.

Thanks for the idea muhahahahahha, though I think it wouldn’t change military numbers that much right

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Remnants of Exilvania
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:00 pm

Rygondria wrote:
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:Indeed. If Ry where to change his app slightly, he could easily get it all, provided he finishes before Deblar.

Thanks for the idea muhahahahahha, though I think it wouldn’t change military numbers that much right

I'd be loathe to grant you the actual Wehrmacht numbers considerin they were pretty specifically geared up for a war that was intended to get started by them so yeah, probably not that much indeed.
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:01 pm

Theyra wrote:
Nation Application


Full Nation Name: Durrani Empire


#JDMZVUM1QC (do not delete this, it's for keeping track of the apps)

Accepted
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Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Rygondria
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Postby Rygondria » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:03 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Rygondria wrote:Thanks for the idea muhahahahahha, though I think it wouldn’t change military numbers that much right

I'd be loathe to grant you the actual Wehrmacht numbers considerin they were pretty specifically geared up for a war that was intended to get started by them so yeah, probably not that much indeed.

Besides…that can always come later

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Postby Kisinger » Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:23 pm

Intermountain States wrote:
Rygondria wrote:~snip

1,400,000, out of 50,037,000? Good lord, how soon are you starting the war in Europe (same with Russia since they around 3 million men in the military out of their population of 107.5 million)?

Soon honestly
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Postby Kisinger » Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:27 pm

Also Ostwald should probably have Wrangel as a commanding officer if he wants
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Padanarem
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Postby Padanarem » Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:20 pm

Nation Application


Full Nation Name:
Dominion of Canada
Short Nation Name:
Canada
National Symbols:
Canadian Red Ensign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Ensign#/media/File:Flag_of_Canada_(1921%E2%80%931957).svg
Maple Leaf, “O Canada”, Hockey
Capital:
Ottawa, ON
Territory:
Entirety of IRL Canada, Bermuda, Jamaica, the Bahamas and other Caribbean islands as directly controlled protectorates. Canada also supports the loyal Imperial governments of Nigeria and The Gold Coast.
Form of Government:
Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State:
His Majesty King George VI
Governor-General Sir Winston Churchill
Head of Government:
Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King
Ideology:
Constitutional monarchism, liberal democracy, capitalism, anti-communism, anti-fascism, imperialism (factions)
Population:
12,545,000 (IRL 1937 pop + NL pop + 1.75 mil British émigrés)
Military Description:
The Canadian Military is an amalgamation of domestic Canadian units and expatriate British formations. This came about after the Fall of Britain in late 1927. Many loyal formations retreated to Canada along with much of the Military and Political elite. Generally the Canadian units are led by Canadians and vice versa. At the upper echelons (Imperial Defense Ministry, Chiefs of Staff Committee) the composition is mixed Canadian and British. Exceptions to this are in the Navy for instance where senior officers and the admiralty are almost exclusively British expats. In 1937 the Army stands at a strength of 75,000 active regulars and 225,000 reserves. The Army is organized into 2 Corps, the Canadian Corps and British & Imperial Corps. Each Corps has a number of Divisions, these are activated during wartime but underneath them are active Brigades and smaller formations. The active force is organized as follows:

Canadian Corps
1st Canadian Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• 4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards
Royal Canadian Artillery
o 1st and 2nd Field Regiments
1st Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Royal Canadian Regiment
o Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment
o 48th Highlanders of Canada
2nd Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry
o Seaforth Highlanders
o Loyal Edmonton Regiments
3rd Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Royal 22e Régiment
o West Nova Scotia Regiment
2nd Canadian Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• Royal Canadian Dragoons
Royal Canadian Artillery
o 3rd and 4th Field Regiments
4th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Essex Scottish Regiment
o Ottawa Cameron Highlanders
o Royal Hamilton Light Infantry
5th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Fusiliers Mont-Royal
o Royal Newfoundland Regiment
o Winnipeg Grenadiers
6th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Calgary Highlanders
o Cameron Highlanders
o South Saskatchewan Regiment
Royal Canadian Engineers
Royal Canadian Army Service Corps
Royal Canadian Army Medical Corps
Royal Canadian Ordnance Corps


British & Imperial Corps
Household Cavalry
Royal Tank Corps
British Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• 1st King’s Dragoon Guards
Royal Artillery Corps
o 3rd and 4th Field Regiments
Foot Guards Brigade
o Grenadier Guards
o Coldstream Guards
1st Line Infantry Brigade
o Devonshire & Dorset Regiment
o Northumberland Fusiliers
o East Anglia Regiment
Scottish Brigade
o King’s own Scottish Borderers
o Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
2nd Line Infantry Brigade
o London Regiment
o Royal Fusiliers
Imperial Division (inactive)
Headquarters
Royal Gurkha Rifles
King’s African Rifles

Corps of Royal Engineers
Intelligence Corps
Royal Corps of Signals
Other support formations


Equipment:
The Army is mostly equipped with legacy equipment dating from the Great war and the 1920s. Standard issue small arms include the SMLE No.1 Mk III and M1911. The Army still widely uses the Vickers MG and Lewis Gun with limited numbers of M1919 Browning MGs. The Army severely lacked in artillery and AT capabilities, fielding weapons that are far obsolete. When the Royal Tank Corps left Britain for Canada only a few score Mk I and II Medium Tanks were able to be shipped before the fall of Britain.
Logistically the Canadian Army has sufficient capacity to produce arms and ordnance to equip its infantry force. However, the nation has clear deficiencies in its ability to manufacture and field large motorized or armored formations.
What the Canadian Army lacks in modern weapons or size it makes up for it in terms of experience. The current Canadian Army is the inheritor of a distinguished legacy performing exceptionally in the Great War and the War in the Raj. Canadian battalion still regularly see action in Africa defending loyal colonies from rebellious communist groups. Doctrinally the Army has come a long way since the Great War, experiences in India and Africa have reshaped their understanding of small unit tactics. Operationally the Army hasn’t found its footing as large-scale campaigns of maneuver and position have been largely absent. However, there are theorists that continue to work towards a modern operational approach. This notably includes JFC Fuller who presently leads the Royal Tank Corps.


Royal Navy:
After the fall of Britain, significant numbers of British ships sailed for north America. The miniscule Royal Canadian Navy was subsumed into the Royal Navy proper. The RN is currently composed of:
7 Battleships-
• HMS Revenge
• HMS Warspite
• HMS Royal Oak
• HMS Queen Elizabeth
• HMS Barham
• HMS Malaya
• HMS Ramillies
4 Heavy Cruisers-
• HMS Cavendish
• HMS Hawkins
• HMS Frobisher
• HMS Effingham
18 Light Cruisers
67 Destroyers

While the Navy is large in terms of tonnage not every vessel can be put into service. Due to both manpower issues and budgetary limitations many vessels are mothballed in Halifax, Nova Scotia. What remains operates in two Squadrons. One, the Bermuda Squadron polices the sea lanes leading to West Africa. And the St. John’s Squadron is based in Newfoundland, guarding the northern stretch of the Atlantic. The Royal Navy also fields 2 battalions of the Corps of Royal Marines.

Royal Canadian Air Force:
The RCAF is by far the weakest pillar of the Canadian Military. The RCAF fielded a handful of aircraft during the Great War but in the 20s not much effort was put in to modernize or expand the air fleet. Aircraft numbers in 1927 were 12 Armstrong Whitworth Siskins and that was it. The fall of Britain did little to bolster the RCAF. The expat RAF forces that managed to make it to North America were few. While they were able to transfer a couple bombers and fighters the RCAF remains pitifully small and in 1937 not much has been done about it. Prospects for modernization will most likely be of foreign origin.

Tech Tree:
Canadian
Economic Description:
Since the end of the Great War through the 1920s Canada’s economy was rapidly expanding and industrializing. This severely hampered at the end of 1927 with the Fall of Britain and the fragmentation of the Empire. Losing the mother country as a trading partner was a severe blow and this was only magnified two years later with the great crash of ’29 in the US. The early 1930s were the roughest the economy has ever been. And in 1937 recovery is slow. But there are some reasons for optimism, the influx of émigrés and capital from Britain has been a boon for Canada. Canada is also endowed with a wealth of resources.
Canada still currently has high, but dropping, unemployment and trade is still somewhat depressed. Canada relies on the production of raw resources with large outputs of fishing and agriculture, iron ore and timber. Highly developed industries are present but not widespread. Production of useful consumer and industrial end items is dwarfed by its neighbor to the South and is still behind other developed economies. The capacity to produce for a major war is present but will take significant time and effort to put into place.


Goals:
Forge an alliance among the remaining liberal democracies. Restore the King and Parliament in Britain.

Point of Divergence:
1919

History:
Revolt in the Raj

Canada came out of 1918 a new country, a real country. It was horrified by the carnage on the Western Front, but it also forged its national character on places like Vimy Ridge. As the world entered 1919 Canada was optimistic. The relief of peace was short lived though, as the Jewel of the Empire was rocked by mutiny and rebellion. Reluctantly Canada committed to defend its fellow dominion and support Britain. For a further two years Canadian units fought on in vain as the communist faction marched towards victory. Canadian formations were among the last imperial forces to leave Calcutta.

On the home front the war became incredibly unpopular. Protests occurred across the country, but dissatisfaction was most prominent in Quebec. The Indian affair cost the governing Conservative party dearly in the next election, and the Liberals came to power.


Fall of Britain

The loss of India had far-reaching aftershocks across the empire. But none so severe as in Britain itself. The economy plummeted; strikes rocked the country. Discontent turned into upheaval, upheaval into rebellion. Canada was hesitant to go across the Atlantic once more. By the time they began to mobilize their troops. The communist revolutionaries were within London. On 14 November 1927, the Royal Family boarded Navy ships on the Thames and fled to North America. They were accompanied by high-ranking government and military officials, the Crown Jewels and as much of Britain’s gold reserves as could be moved. In the immediate wake of the red revolution, waves of Britons crossed to Canada. Aristocrats, captains of industry, the middle class, the religious, and people of all stripes fled the uncertainty and violence.
The loss of the mother country and the failure to act in time was a national shame in Canada and galvanized the people. Canadians, now the home to the King, vowed to reclaim Britain.


Economic Woes.

See Economic Description


Current Politics

The Liberal Party holds a slim majority in Parliament over the Conservative-Restoration Party. The Liberal Party (LP) is generally pro-business, free trade, with modest economic intervention proposals. They are also more reticent to be involved overseas though are still committed to eventual repatriation of the Royal Family. The Conservative-Restoration Party (CRP) is socially conservative, protectionist, with some populist elements. They are the most hawkish on international matters and capture most of the expat vote.


Have You Read, Understand, and Agree with the OP Posts & Rules In Detail?: Yes
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Last edited by Padanarem on Wed Apr 06, 2022 3:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Countesia
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Founded: Oct 10, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Countesia » Thu Apr 07, 2022 12:38 am

Padanarem wrote:
Nation Application


Full Nation Name:
Dominion of Canada
Short Nation Name:
Canada
National Symbols:
Canadian Red Ensign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Red_Ensign#/media/File:Flag_of_Canada_(1921%E2%80%931957).svg
Maple Leaf, “O Canada”, Hockey
Capital:
Ottawa, ON
Territory:
Entirety of IRL Canada, Bermuda, Jamaica, the Bahamas and other Caribbean islands as directly controlled protectorates. Canada also supports the loyal Imperial governments of Nigeria and The Gold Coast.
Form of Government:
Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State:
His Majesty King George VI
Governor-General Sir Winston Churchill
Head of Government:
Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King
Ideology:
Constitutional monarchism, liberal democracy, capitalism, anti-communism, anti-fascism, imperialism (factions)
Population:
12,545,000 (IRL 1937 pop + NL pop + 1.75 mil British émigrés)
Military Description:
The Canadian Military is an amalgamation of domestic Canadian units and expatriate British formations. This came about after the Fall of Britain in late 1927. Many loyal formations retreated to Canada along with much of the Military and Political elite. Generally the Canadian units are led by Canadians and vice versa. At the upper echelons (Imperial Defense Ministry, Chiefs of Staff Committee) the composition is mixed Canadian and British. Exceptions to this are in the Navy for instance where senior officers and the admiralty are almost exclusively British expats. In 1937 the Army stands at a strength of 75,000 active regulars and 225,000 reserves. The Army is organized into 2 Corps, the Canadian Corps and British & Imperial Corps. Each Corps has a number of Divisions, these are activated during wartime but underneath them are active Brigades and smaller formations. The active force is organized as follows:

Canadian Corps
1st Canadian Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• 4th Princess Louise Dragoon Guards
Royal Canadian Artillery
o 1st and 2nd Field Regiments
1st Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Royal Canadian Regiment
o Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment
o 48th Highlanders of Canada
2nd Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry
o Seaforth Highlanders
o Loyal Edmonton Regiments
3rd Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Royal 22e Régiment
o West Nova Scotia Regiment
2nd Canadian Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• Royal Canadian Dragoons
Royal Canadian Artillery
o 3rd and 4th Field Regiments
4th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Essex Scottish Regiment
o Ottawa Cameron Highlanders
o Royal Hamilton Light Infantry
5th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Fusiliers Mont-Royal
o Royal Newfoundland Regiment
o Winnipeg Grenadiers
6th Canadian Infantry Brigade
o Calgary Highlanders
o Cameron Highlanders
o South Saskatchewan Regiment
Royal Canadian Engineers
Royal Canadian Army Service Corps
Royal Canadian Army Medical Corps
Royal Canadian Ordnance Corps


British & Imperial Corps
Household Cavalry
Royal Tank Corps
British Division (inactive)
Headquarters
• 1st King’s Dragoon Guards
Royal Artillery Corps
o 3rd and 4th Field Regiments
Foot Guards Brigade
o Grenadier Guards
o Coldstream Guards
1st Line Infantry Brigade
o Devonshire & Dorset Regiment
o Northumberland Fusiliers
o East Anglia Regiment
Scottish Brigade
o King’s own Scottish Borderers
o Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
2nd Line Infantry Brigade
o London Regiment
o Royal Fusiliers
Imperial Division (inactive)
Headquarters
Royal Gurkha Rifles
King’s African Rifles

Corps of Royal Engineers
Intelligence Corps
Royal Corps of Signals
Other support formations


Equipment:
The Army is mostly equipped with legacy equipment dating from the Great war and the 1920s. Standard issue small arms include the SMLE No.1 Mk III and M1911. The Army still widely uses the Vickers MG and Lewis Gun with limited numbers of M1919 Browning MGs. The Army severely lacked in artillery and AT capabilities, fielding weapons that are far obsolete. When the Royal Tank Corps left Britain for Canada only a few score Mk I and II Medium Tanks were able to be shipped before the fall of Britain.
Logistically the Canadian Army has sufficient capacity to produce arms and ordnance to equip its infantry force. However, the nation has clear deficiencies in its ability to manufacture and field large motorized or armored formations.
What the Canadian Army lacks in modern weapons or size it makes up for it in terms of experience. The current Canadian Army is the inheritor of a distinguished legacy performing exceptionally in the Great War and the War in the Raj. Canadian battalion still regularly see action in Africa defending loyal colonies from rebellious communist groups. Doctrinally the Army has come a long way since the Great War, experiences in India and Africa have reshaped their understanding of small unit tactics. Operationally the Army hasn’t found its footing as large-scale campaigns of maneuver and position have been largely absent. However, there are theorists that continue to work towards a modern operational approach. This notably includes JFC Fuller who presently leads the Royal Tank Corps.


Royal Navy:
After the fall of Britain, significant numbers of British ships sailed for north America. The miniscule Royal Canadian Navy was subsumed into the Royal Navy proper. The RN is currently composed of:
7 Battleships-
• HMS Revenge
• HMS Warspite
• HMS Royal Oak
• HMS Queen Elizabeth
• HMS Barham
• HMS Malaya
• HMS Ramillies
4 Heavy Cruisers-
• HMS Cavendish
• HMS Hawkins
• HMS Frobisher
• HMS Effingham
18 Light Cruisers
67 Destroyers

While the Navy is large in terms of tonnage not every vessel can be put into service. Due to both manpower issues and budgetary limitations many vessels are mothballed in Halifax, Nova Scotia. What remains operates in two Squadrons. One, the Bermuda Squadron polices the sea lanes leading to West Africa. And the St. John’s Squadron is based in Newfoundland, guarding the northern stretch of the Atlantic. The Royal Navy also fields 2 battalions of the Corps of Royal Marines.

Royal Canadian Air Force:
The RCAF is by far the weakest pillar of the Canadian Military. The RCAF fielded a handful of aircraft during the Great War but in the 20s not much effort was put in to modernize or expand the air fleet. Aircraft numbers in 1927 were 12 Armstrong Whitworth Siskins and that was it. The fall of Britain did little to bolster the RCAF. The expat RAF forces that managed to make it to North America were few. While they were able to transfer a couple bombers and fighters the RCAF remains pitifully small and in 1937 not much has been done about it. Prospects for modernization will most likely be of foreign origin.

Tech Tree:
Canadian
Economic Description:
Since the end of the Great War through the 1920s Canada’s economy was rapidly expanding and industrializing. This severely hampered at the end of 1927 with the Fall of Britain and the fragmentation of the Empire. Losing the mother country as a trading partner was a severe blow and this was only magnified two years later with the great crash of ’29 in the US. The early 1930s were the roughest the economy has ever been. And in 1937 recovery is slow. But there are some reasons for optimism, the influx of émigrés and capital from Britain has been a boon for Canada. Canada is also endowed with a wealth of resources.
Canada still currently has high, but dropping, unemployment and trade is still somewhat depressed. Canada relies on the production of raw resources with large outputs of fishing and agriculture, iron ore and timber. Highly developed industries are present but not widespread. Production of useful consumer and industrial end items is dwarfed by its neighbor to the South and is still behind other developed economies. The capacity to produce for a major war is present but will take significant time and effort to put into place.


Goals:
Forge an alliance among the remaining liberal democracies. Restore the King and Parliament in Britain.

Point of Divergence:
1919

History:
Revolt in the Raj

Canada came out of 1918 a new country, a real country. It was horrified by the carnage on the Western Front, but it also forged its national character on places like Vimy Ridge. As the world entered 1919 Canada was optimistic. The relief of peace was short lived though, as the Jewel of the Empire was rocked by mutiny and rebellion. Reluctantly Canada committed to defend its fellow dominion and support Britain. For a further two years Canadian units fought on in vain as the communist faction marched towards victory. Canadian formations were among the last imperial forces to leave Calcutta.

On the home front the war became incredibly unpopular. Protests occurred across the country, but dissatisfaction was most prominent in Quebec. The Indian affair cost the governing Conservative party dearly in the next election, and the Liberals came to power.


Fall of Britain

The loss of India had far-reaching aftershocks across the empire. But none so severe as in Britain itself. The economy plummeted; strikes rocked the country. Discontent turned into upheaval, upheaval into rebellion. Canada was hesitant to go across the Atlantic once more. By the time they began to mobilize their troops. The communist revolutionaries were within London. On 14 November 1927, the Royal Family boarded Navy ships on the Thames and fled to North America. They were accompanied by high-ranking government and military officials, the Crown Jewels and as much of Britain’s gold reserves as could be moved. In the immediate wake of the red revolution, waves of Britons crossed to Canada. Aristocrats, captains of industry, the middle class, the religious, and people of all stripes fled the uncertainty and violence.
The loss of the mother country and the failure to act in time was a national shame in Canada and galvanized the people. Canadians, now the home to the King, vowed to reclaim Britain.


Economic Woes.

See Economic Description


Current Politics

The Liberal Party holds a slim majority in Parliament over the Conservative-Restoration Party. The Liberal Party (LP) is generally pro-business, free trade, with modest economic intervention proposals. They are also more reticent to be involved overseas though are still committed to eventual repatriation of the Royal Family. The Conservative-Restoration Party (CRP) is socially conservative, protectionist, with some populist elements. They are the most hawkish on international matters and capture most of the expat vote.


Have You Read, Understand, and Agree with the OP Posts & Rules In Detail?: Yes
#JDMZVUM1QC


I hope you get accepted. This is a really interesting nation. I may have to slightly edit a previous post about admitting Belize into the Central American States you do.

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Padanarem
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Ex-Nation

Postby Padanarem » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:01 am

Countesia wrote:
I hope you get accepted. This is a really interesting nation. I may have to slightly edit a previous post about admitting Belize into the Central American States you do.


If I get accepted Canada would be open to transferring Belize to the CAS. A national plebiscite on independence and union with the CAS could be held in exchange for a free trade partnership between our two nations. Canada has to import all our sugar, bananas etc. after all.

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Tracian Empire
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Founded: Mar 01, 2014
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:02 am

Countesia wrote:
Padanarem wrote:
Nation Application


Full Nation Name:
Dominion of Canada

#JDMZVUM1QC


I hope you get accepted. This is a really interesting nation. I may have to slightly edit a previous post about admitting Belize into the Central American States you do.

Belize was already transferred in the map to the Central American States because Padanarem's reservation for Canada expired before he posted his app.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Padanarem
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Ex-Nation

Postby Padanarem » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:12 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Countesia wrote:
I hope you get accepted. This is a really interesting nation. I may have to slightly edit a previous post about admitting Belize into the Central American States you do.

Belize was already transferred in the map to the Central American States because Padanarem's reservation for Canada expired before he posted his app.


I know I was a little past the res, but am I still good?

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Tracian Empire
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Founded: Mar 01, 2014
Father Knows Best State

Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:15 am

Padanarem wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Belize was already transferred in the map to the Central American States because Padanarem's reservation for Canada expired before he posted his app.


I know I was a little past the res, but am I still good?

Since you've posted an app now your territories are reserved again, with a few caveats. There is the fact that like I said, Belize is Central American, and other than that there is now a player for socialist Britain, so we are hoping that you two will be able to make your histories work.

If there will be overlapping claims in terms of former British colonies between the two of you that you two won't be able to agree on we'll decide who gets what.
I'm a Romanian, a vampire, an anime enthusiast and a roleplayer.
Hello there! I am Tracian Empire! You can call me Tracian, Thrace, Thracian, Thracr, Thracc or whatever you want. Really.

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Hanovereich
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Founded: Jun 24, 2021
Ex-Nation

All done

Postby Hanovereich » Thu Apr 07, 2022 1:37 am

Nation Application


Full Nation Name: Socialist Republic of Britain

Short Nation Name: Britain

National Symbols:

Image


Capital: London

Territory: Former United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
Puppet States in South Africa and Rhodesia; Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong and Pacific islands; Egypt and Sudan; India and Ceylon
London Pact Territories in Guyana; Falklands; Gibraltar

Form of Government: Federal socialist republic (de facto) Federal socialist authoritarian dictatorship (de jure)

Since the Party and Government are extremely close together in terms of their political significance, this will cover both institutions. The Central Committee is the leadership of the CPGB, and the Politburo, a part of the Central Committee is the executive committee of the CPGB. The Central Committee is made up of Departments, and there are three- Administration, Internal Supervision and Security, and International Socialist Relations.

The Council of Ministers is the cabinet of Britain, made up of 17 ministers. They often work with the Party- for example, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has to work with the Department for International Socialist Relations on international socialism.

    Premier
    First Deputy Premier
    Second Deputy Premier
    Minister of Foreign Affairs
    Minister of Internal Affairs
    Minister for Finance
    Minister of Justice
    Minister for Defence
    Minister for Public Welfare and Health
    Minister of Labour
    Minister for Transportation
    Minister of International Trade
    Minister of Construction
    Minister for Education
    Minister of Information and Media

    Special Minister for Land Use (ex officio Minister of Construction)
    Special Minister for Industries


The Leader of the Party holds the title of General Secretary. The leader of the country holds the title of President. Usually, for practical and political reasons, one person holds both these positions.

The legislative is the National People's Congress of Britain, with 450 members, elected for 3-year terms.

The SRB is split into four British Socialist Republics- England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland. Each has its own Premier, Council of Ministers (usually smaller and with between 6-10 ministers), and Congress. The Premier of the British Socialist Republic of England is also the Premier of the Socialist Republic of Britain. BSR officials, especially those in England, usually go on to take higher positions in the national government.


Head of State: General Secretary of the Communist Party of Great Britain and President of the Socialist Republic of Britain, Hugh Dalton
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Head of Government: Premier of the Socialist Republic of Britain, George Hall
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Ideology: Socialism

Population: 51 million

Military Description: The People's British Armed Forces (PBAF) are the combined military branches of the PRB.

The Army is led by the Chief of the Army General Staff, Hugh Massy, and split into the Scotland Army District, Northern England Army District, Southern England Army District, Wales Army District and Ireland Army District. Each District is led by a Major General, and made up of Divisions.

There are 10 army divisions in total- 5 infantry, 2 cavalry, 2 armour, 1 Special Political Division (military police, special forces, internal security). The SPD is split into regiments, with one regiment in each District

    Scotland: 1 infantry, 1 cavalry, 1 SP Regiment
    Northern England: 1 infantry, 1 armour, 1 SP Regiment
    Southern England: 1 infantry, 1 cavalry, 1 armour, 1 SP Regiment
    Wales: 1 infantry, 1 SP Regiment
    Ireland: 1 infantry, 1 SP Regiment


The People's British Navy was one of the largest in the world, and it is still formidable. They have bases in both the PRB and in London Pact territories, and their force is supplemented by their puppet states.

The Navy has bases in Portsmouth, Clyde, Scapa Flow, Belfast and Rosyth- with overseas bases in Darwin, Sydney, Alexandria, Bermuda, Gibraltar, the Falklands, and Cape Town. Their fleet includes 12 battleships, 4 aircraft carriers, 43 cruisers, 116 destroyers and 57 submarines. Many other ships have been sent to friendly states to boost their fleets, with others having been taken with the Royals in the British Revolution. The Navy also has over 100 aircraft.

The People's Naval Infantry Service is the marines of Britain. They are split into three regiments, and their missions and numbers are shrouded in secrecy, as the PNIS is a highly specialised unit with far-reaching capabilities, supported by a large fleet.


The PBAF is an advanced air force, with some 1,050 aircraft. They have bases across the country and in friendly nations. Since aircraft are the fastest means of getting around, in the event of a threat to friendly nations, the PBAF will likely be the first units to defend them. Therefore, a lot of emphasis is put on transport and strategic aircraft. That's not to say the fighters are neglected; there are some 600 fighters and fighter-bombers in the PBAF's arsenal.


Tech Tree: British

Economic Description: The country is heavily industrialised and with a planned economy. Most rural areas have been turned into farms, and the cities into factories, as part of the All Land for Work program- that is, every spare acre of land must be turned into something productive for the state. Even so, the economy is slow. Economic output is mainly in textiles, cotton and vehicles.

Goals: To regain what was lost (looking at you, Canada!), and to revitalise the economy in the face of war

Point of Divergence: Irish War of Independence

History: In 1919, the IRA began the War of Independence, and launched rebellions across Ireland. The British, having just sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers home, were able to counter the War with brutal massacres. The IRA were unable to find strongholds to fight from, when the British had deployed their troops everywhere. One IRA member declared gloomily: "Wherever we go, whatever we do, we are always within 10 miles of the British!"

The 1919 Indian Rebellion was caused by British dismissal of India's role in the Great War, a war which cost a lot more to India than it cost to Britain. Protests turned into riots; riots into a rebellion. Britain deployed some 10,000 further troops into India, against a Popular Front dominated by socialists and communists. However, the government felt that the Irish Independence War was more important than a war overseas, and so did little more than send soldiers from Australia and East Africa. The war was prolonged by guerrilla warfare and a lack of ready men (most experienced troops were in Ireland), and the Imperial troops only left in 1921. That same year, the IRA declared a ceasefire- which was the closest thing to a full surrender. Ireland would stay a part of the UK.

In 1922, India declared independence as the Socialist Republic of India. Britain couldn't stop it, and so hundreds of businesses trading with India collapsed. The economic downturn was made worse by the strikes across the country, stopping the Government from dealing with the collapse in their usual ways of bailouts. In 1926, the General Strike began, and that same year the Labour Party split into two factions; the Socialist Party and the Labour Party. The Socialists quickly gained the upper hand, forming local unions of people in an area to coordinate strikes.

The strikes lasted for six months, until February 1927, when the Baldwin ministry collapsed, an election was called and Ramsay MacDonald won in a landslide. MacDonald was not a Socialist, but he brought them into his government for the sake of unity. MacDonald was able to calm the situation somewhat by introducing unemployment pay, a 35-hour work week and sending in the military to quell rebellions and strikes.

However, his government was short-lived, as on the 15th of October 1927, Hugh Dalton, then the Socialist Financial Secretary to the Treasury, led a British Revolution. Strikes were planned across the country that day, and loyal military units were sent into the major cities. The north of England and Wales quickly fell to the Socialists, and sporadic fighting broke out in Scotland. Very quickly the government decided to surrender, and they abandoned London on the 4th of November. The Socialists, however, were tied down across the country, and so no Socialist entered London until the 20th, when they found that the Royals had left. Dalton had ensured that the gold reserves were protected; however, between 20% and 25% of the Bank of England's gold had been taken with the Royal Family.

Finally, on the 7th of December, the last monarchists surrendered in Belfast. Hugh Dalton was made General Secretary of the Communist Party, and President, on the 21st of December. The Indian President congratulated the British on their 'conquest of imperialism', and the two countries signed the London Treaty in 1928, to form what would soon become the London Pact.

The new Government's first task was to stop the millions leaving the country. Dover, Liverpool and Cardiff were the only ports that had been fully closed off during the Revolution, and the main ports to leave the country were Edinburgh and Belfast, two monarchist ports. The Army also lost some 100,000 men, either to the monarchist cause or to death in the Revolution. Nonetheless, the country rapidly industrialised, and the military was able to rely on the industries of Britain to make a fully British-made military.

During this time, most of the former colonies had declared their independence. South Africa was embroiled in a civil war, between monarchists and socialists. The Civil War ended in 1933 with the socialists, with help from Britain, taking over the country and joining the London Pact.

However, just a year later, the 1929 Stock Market Crash caused the economy to collapse. The Socialists were unprepared for such a crisis so early on in their administration, and with sanctions placed on them by their former trade partners, the country experienced the worst economic crisis in a very, very long time. Phillip Snowden, an ardent socialist and Minister for Finance, implemented the Plan for British Autarky in the People (PBAP), which would turn into the All Land for Work program. The PBAP gave out billions in unemployment pay, and established the Popular Working Organisation, for unskilled labour to do basic work in cooking, building and transport, to get Britain moving again.

In this time, across the former Empire, due to the Great Depression socialism became a popular concept. Some joined it to unite with its former mother country again; others to actually create a socialist utopia. In Australia and New Zealand, socialist movements took over the government in 1935. The two united that same year, along with their Pacific territories. India and South Africa assisted socialist movements in Egypt, and a violent coup took over the country in 1936. Sudan quickly joined them. The London Pact was growing.

By 1937, the worst of the Great Depression had disappeared, and slowly, Britain was back on its feet. In November 1937, the Agreement for Popular Territorial Administration was signed by all members of the London Pact, creating a committee to jointly administer some territories that had been independent since the Fall of Britain. The British Socialist Empire, as external observers describe it, now enters 1938 with a new resolve to take back Canada, and to create the Socialist Utopia.

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Postby Countesia » Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:01 am

Padanarem wrote:
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I hope you get accepted. This is a really interesting nation. I may have to slightly edit a previous post about admitting Belize into the Central American States you do.


If I get accepted Canada would be open to transferring Belize to the CAS. A national plebiscite on independence and union with the CAS could be held in exchange for a free trade partnership between our two nations. Canada has to import all our sugar, bananas etc. after all.


It was already done since the IC went up before we had a UK/Canada player.

If you get accepted, are we ok with saying that Belize declared itself independent (which it did in the IC) and Canada let it happen because they weren't in a position to send troops over for such a minor colony?

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Postby Kingdom of England-Wales » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:53 am

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Then could I have a few satellite states, sort of like the Warsaw Pact?

The exact form in which they're organized would be your choice (though clearly they couldn't be officially colonies), but yeah.

So if the British are gone, can I be a some sort of a new state in the former colonies?
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Postby Hanovereich » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:54 am

Kingdom of England-Wales wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:The exact form in which they're organized would be your choice (though clearly they couldn't be officially colonies), but yeah.

So if the British are gone, can I be a some sort of a new state in the former colonies?


Most of the colonies have been taken by Britain or Canada.

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Postby Kingdom of England-Wales » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:56 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Kingdom of England-Wales wrote:So if the British are gone, can I be a some sort of a new state in the former colonies?


Most of the colonies have been taken by Britain or Canada.

Is East Africa taken?
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Postby Hanovereich » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:58 am

Kingdom of England-Wales wrote:
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Most of the colonies have been taken by Britain or Canada.

Is East Africa taken?


Nope.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Apr 07, 2022 4:59 am

Kingdom of England-Wales wrote:
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Most of the colonies have been taken by Britain or Canada.

Is East Africa taken?

if by East Africa you mean British Kenya, then no, it isn't taken
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Postby Kingdom of England-Wales » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:00 am

Hanovereich wrote:
Kingdom of England-Wales wrote:Is East Africa taken?


Nope.

Great. I’ll be something like Canada, but in East Africa. A remnant of the colonial government.
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Postby Hanovereich » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:01 am

Interesting. Remember that there are communist nations in India and South Africa.

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Postby Kingdom of England-Wales » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:02 am

Hanovereich wrote:Interesting. Remember that there are communist nations in India and South Africa.

Alright. Just wanna ask. Tanzania and Uganda are not taken too, right?
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