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Postby Chewion » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:10 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Chewion wrote:What if Australasia initially goes to a Principality until after WW2 when it transfers to a fully independent Kingdom with strong ties to the mother country by remaining in the Commonwealth or whatever replaces it in this RP. I’m thinking that in the 80’s or something it becomes an Empire with Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and any other different regions having their own King


That was the whole reason I mentioned the Principality thing, the Commonwealth is based on having the Anglois/British monarch as head of state. But that's IRL, if Hypron would be okay with having full monarchies as part of the Commonwealth I suppose that's cool. Maybe a central Kingdom of Australia with the Principalities of New Zealand and New Guinea as constituents?

Also would be cool if you went with New Guinea being an ex-German colony descended from Deutsch-Neu-Guinea.

Is Australasia just Australia, New Zealand, and PNG?
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Postby Theyra » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:16 am

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Want me to reserve it for you? :)



Sure, but, what can you tell me about Egypt in this rp? Like I saw that it is involved in two conflicts but what else is there?

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:20 am

Rygondria wrote:They would definitely heavily involved in the UAR's civil war, especially along the coastline, probably favoring the Hashemites and the Maronites. Was thinking that maybe they got a piece of the middle eastern influence the Anglois did after the great war did sort of like the French though i could be wrong with that. For North Africa, they would definitely focus on keeping their influence strong on Tunisia and Libya, especially Libya because of the Oilfields. They might be wary of Egypt but not to the scale of say...the Comintern in the Balkans.


Hmm I'd be perfectly fine with Italy having significant influence in Tunisia and maybe Libya, having acted as a stabilizing force leading to the Libyan Civil War never happening in this timeline. Perhaps Italy had Lebanon as a mandate during the Interwar Era? Styling themselves as the protectors of Maronite Catholicism? Later folding it into the Hashemite Kingdom before the Sharif was overthrown by the Baathists?

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Sure, but, what can you tell me about Egypt in this rp? Like I saw that it is involved in two conflicts but what else is there?


With the Ottomans never existing, Egypt became the dominant Muslim power in the world, rising to prominence after managing to defend against the Mongols when they invaded the Middle-East and then proceeding to drive them out of the Levant in the 1270/1280's, Egypt then took control of a large swathe of the Middle-East and eastern North Africa, extending all the way down to Congo and Uganda in the south at it's height.

Today it is a strong regional power in both the Middle-East and Africa with an economy of between 1 and 2 trillion I'd say, depending on what you'd like and a solid military-industrial complex. Though I does face issues with overpopulation and the failed Arabization of it's southernmost and Darfuri territories which led to rebellion in it's african territories and through that the two wars it's currently engaged in.
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Postby Union Princes » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:40 am

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I like it, lots of good work there UP but as I said, there's alot to unpack here too. I'd be willing to go with some of the changes to the established lore, I would be willing to have the Protected Republic of China not exist, so Dailan, Quingdao and Taiwan would be Chinese, as well as Hong Kong (Suuuure you're all right with that Hypron???). Tibet would be a nominally independent state, but safely in the SCO and given China's large economic and political influence would functionally more or less be a Chinese province. Spontaneously I'd like Korea to remain as it is, being the only other member of the GEACPS if we go with the Protected Republic never existing, lots of potential for shenanigans. I would appreciate something on the Vietnam War as well, as part of the Sino-Soviet Split and perhaps leading to Dai Li making the decision to modernize China in it's wake leading to the massive economic boom later.


On the situation with Tibet, it would never remain independent past 1950. Both the Nationalist and the Communists in our history saw Tibet as a core part of China since it was under Chinese rule for centuries. A unified China without a Tibet is a Soviet Union without the Ukraine, it's just goes against the party line.

The Soviet Union wouldn't care about Tibet since it's a traditional theocracy, an anathema to communist theory. The only nation that would is Anglois but they have India to deal with.

I'll expand on the Vietnam War when I get the chance
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Postby Huron League » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:47 am

Ok, I'll reserve, uh... The Netherlands, provided they exist in their current form, I suppose.
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Postby Rygondria » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:52 am

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Rygondria wrote:They would definitely heavily involved in the UAR's civil war, especially along the coastline, probably favoring the Hashemites and the Maronites. Was thinking that maybe they got a piece of the middle eastern influence the Anglois did after the great war did sort of like the French though i could be wrong with that. For North Africa, they would definitely focus on keeping their influence strong on Tunisia and Libya, especially Libya because of the Oilfields. They might be wary of Egypt but not to the scale of say...the Comintern in the Balkans.


Hmm I'd be perfectly fine with Italy having significant influence in Tunisia and maybe Libya, having acted as a stabilizing force leading to the Libyan Civil War never happening in this timeline. Perhaps Italy had Lebanon as a mandate during the Interwar Era? Styling themselves as the protectors of Maronite Catholicism? Later folding it into the Hashemite Kingdom before the Sharif was overthrown by the Baathists?

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Sure, but, what can you tell me about Egypt in this rp? Like I saw that it is involved in two conflicts but what else is there?


With the Ottomans never existing, Egypt became the dominant Muslim power in the world, rising to prominence after managing to defend against the Mongols when they invaded the Middle-East and then proceeding to drive them out of the Levant in the 1270/1280's, Egypt then took control of a large swathe of the Middle-East and eastern North Africa, extending all the way down to Congo and Uganda in the south at it's height.

Today it is a strong regional power in both the Middle-East and Africa with an economy of between 1 and 2 trillion I'd say, depending on what you'd like and a solid military-industrial complex. Though I does face issues with overpopulation and the failed Arabization of it's southernmost and Darfuri territories which led to rebellion in it's african territories and through that the two wars it's currently engaged in.

All of that definitely works, especially seeing as they probably made Arrangements with the Hashemites in that period too ensure the safety of the Maronites and interest's in Lebanon. Obviously would probably have cold relations with the UAR especially if they did anything to affect the community negativity though I wouldn’t be surprised if the UAR made similar arrangements with the Italians before the civil war too prevent any potential Italian response. And with the civil war in swing the Italians move to reassert the favorable conditions they had before the UAR and of course protect their brothers in Lebanon

As for Libya they would have definitely moved too prevent a civil war from breaking out in Libya, even if it means propping up say a pro Italian version of Ghadaffi or hell even keeping the king in power.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:21 pm

Union Princes wrote:
On the situation with Tibet, it would never remain independent past 1950. Both the Nationalist and the Communists in our history saw Tibet as a core part of China since it was under Chinese rule for centuries. A unified China without a Tibet is a Soviet Union without the Ukraine, it's just goes against the party line.

The Soviet Union wouldn't care about Tibet since it's a traditional theocracy, an anathema to communist theory. The only nation that would is Anglois but they have India to deal with.

I'll expand on the Vietnam War when I get the chance


I suppose I can see the point, I'll make an amendment regarding Tibet in that case, which as well as the PRC and HK would be folded into China, expect a new map tomorrow.

Huron League wrote:Ok, I'll reserve, uh... The Netherlands, provided they exist in their current form, I suppose.


Interesting, the Netherlands exist in their RL borders except that RL Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana were Dutch colonies in this timeline, they were never decolonized but instead integrated as fully constituent overseas territories. Similar to RL Curacao.

Rygondria wrote:All of that definitely works, especially seeing as they probably made Arrangements with the Hashemites in that period too ensure the safety of the Maronites and interest's in Lebanon. Obviously would probably have cold relations with the UAR especially if they did anything to affect the community negativity though I wouldn’t be surprised if the UAR made similar arrangements with the Italians before the civil war too prevent any potential Italian response. And with the civil war in swing the Italians move to reassert the favorable conditions they had before the UAR and of course protect their brothers in Lebanon

As for Libya they would have definitely moved too prevent a civil war from breaking out in Libya, even if it means propping up say a pro Italian version of Ghadaffi or hell even keeping the king in power.


Cool cool, looking forward to seeing the app! :)
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Postby Theyra » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:31 pm

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Theyra wrote:
Sure, but, what can you tell me about Egypt in this rp? Like I saw that it is involved in two conflicts but what else is there?


With the Ottomans never existing, Egypt became the dominant Muslim power in the world, rising to prominence after managing to defend against the Mongols when they invaded the Middle-East and then proceeding to drive them out of the Levant in the 1270/1280's, Egypt then took control of a large swathe of the Middle-East and eastern North Africa, extending all the way down to Congo and Uganda in the south at it's height.

Today it is a strong regional power in both the Middle-East and Africa with an economy of between 1 and 2 trillion I'd say, depending on what you'd like and a solid military-industrial complex. Though I does face issues with overpopulation and the failed Arabization of it's southernmost and Darfuri territories which led to rebellion in it's african territories and through that the two wars it's currently engaged in.


Okay I can work with that. Not sure how I want Egypt to go yet but, I will figure something out. Thanks for the info.

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Postby Chewion » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:39 pm

Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?
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Postby Huron League » Sat Mar 26, 2022 2:26 pm

Nationstates Name - Huron League
Nation Name - The Netherlands
Capital - Amsterdam
Type of Government - Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy
Ideological Leanings - Mainly Left-Wing, Environmentally Friendly, Socially Tolerant
Party in Power - GreenLeft (GroenLinks)
Head of State - Willem-Alexander
Image of HoS - Image
Executive Title - Monarch
Head of Government - Jesse Klaver
Image of HoG - Image
Executive Title - Prime Minister
Flag - Image

Total Population - 21,281,910 including Guyana, Suriname, and French Guiana (Collectively Dutch Guyana), and other Overseas Territories [2018 (IC)], 17,482,012 W/O Dutch Guyana % overseas territories [2018 (IC)]
Demographics -
Netherlands: 70% Dutch, 12% Other Europeans, 3% Creole, 2% Indian, 2% Turkish, 2% Moroccan, 9% Other.
Dutch Guyana: 26.0% Creole, 19.2% Indian, 15.0% Afro-Surinamese, 13% White, 10% Javanese, 8.9% Indigenous, 8% Other.

Military Branches -
-Royal Netherlands Army
-Royal Netherlands Navy
-Royal Netherlands Air Force
Total military size -
50,000 Active, 9,000 Reserves
Breakdown of Ground Sector -
29,000 Active Ground Troops
105x Modern Tanks
100x Outdated Tanks
12x Transport Helicopters
1000x Trucks
300x Weaponized Trucks
Breakdown of Naval Sector -
8,000 Active Sailors
8x Conventional Submarines
5x De Zeven Provinciën-class Air-Defence Frigates
4x Frigates
1x Minelayer
4x Minehunter
7x Auxiliary Ships
12x Shore Patrol Vehicles
Breakdown of Airforce Sector -
13,000 Airmen
12x Chinook CH-47 helicopters
2x Maritime Helicopter
15x Fighter Jets
10x Old Fighter Jets
12x UAVs
5x Equipment Transports
Major foreign military suppliers [If Applicable] - United Anglois Kingdom
Extra military information - 300 Border Patrol Officers

GDP - $1.210 Trillion (Inc. Overseas Territories)
Currency - geld
Major import/export partners - United Anglois Kingdom, UASC, Germany, Greece

Public Goals - Minimizing the threat of global warming on the Dutch Lowlands, increasing economic growth, reducing dependency on natural gases and fossil fuels.
Private Goals - Increasing technological research into clean-burning fuels for military technologies to sell to other countries,
Major Domestic Issues - Slow economic growth, incredibly high risk of flooding.
Major Foreign Issues - Wars on the Balkan Peninsula, threat of small insurgency in Dutch Guyana

History -
After the Netherlands broke free of Spanish rule in the late 1500s, the Dutch started their path towards exploration and colonization, as well as became an economic and military powerhouse of their own right. In 1589, the Dutch sailor "discover" Indonesia, and brings back knowledge of untold spices, rare earth metals, and the gleaming glory of profit. After hearing these grandiose stories, King Maurice I begins the process of creating a major corporation, mainly by brute force and the enslavement of the natives, called the Dutch East India Company, or the VOC. The VOC goes on to create plantations for the farming and production of various spices and exotic fruits and foods, for resale for high prices back in Europe.

After the success of the Indonesian company, the Netherlands looked to expand into more territories, in Southeast Asia and the West Indies. They quickly found suitable locations, namely Mughal India and Ceylon in Asia and Sint Maarten, Northeast Brazil and Suriname in America. Treatment of the natives there was similar to treatment in Indonesia, with giant slave-using plantations flourishing. Mughal India quickly became the largest, most profitable area of the Dutch Empire. Over 1.3 million Europeans were sent to work for the East India Company over 150 years.

Trouble brewed in Brazil in the 1650s, with the Portuguese clamoring for more land in South America. A bloody conflict resulted in Brazil, with the Dutch losing control of much of their Brazilian territory. Small amounts of Chile were taken by the Dutch.

All seemed to be going well for the Dutch in Asia, with over 100 years of a flourishing Asian trade system occurring nearly uninterrupted, until inklings of a revolution in the early 1700s in India were heard. A major uprising raged on, which ended in the Battle of Colachel in 1728. An estimated 20,000 casualties were reported on each side, and for the most part, the Dutch were kicked out of India.

After hearing rumors of a successful uprising in India, other colonies began minor revolutions, but nothing too widespread, until 1732, when Ceylonese slaves revolted en masse, and secured independence after a year-long battle. The Dutch became frustrated with Southeast Asia, and began looking more to the West Indies for new colonies and companies.

In the early-mid 1700s, the Dutch expanded to some small islands in the Caribbean, namely Curacao and Trinidad and Tobago. Similar practices occurred on those islands, as well.

WIP for history and other minor things. Feedback is appreciated!
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Postby Hypron » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:02 pm

The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Chewion wrote:What if Australasia initially goes to a Principality until after WW2 when it transfers to a fully independent Kingdom with strong ties to the mother country by remaining in the Commonwealth or whatever replaces it in this RP. I’m thinking that in the 80’s or something it becomes an Empire with Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, and any other different regions having their own King


That was the whole reason I mentioned the Principality thing, the Commonwealth is based on having the Anglois/British monarch as head of state. But that's IRL, if Hypron would be okay with having full monarchies as part of the Commonwealth I suppose that's cool. Maybe a central Kingdom of Australia with the Principalities of New Zealand and New Guinea as constituents?

Bolding this for a very important reason: Malaysia has it's own Monarch and is in the Commonwealth, so Australasia can do the same.

Also, side question, who currently controls Malta?
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Postby Chewion » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:48 pm

Hypron wrote:
The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
That was the whole reason I mentioned the Principality thing, the Commonwealth is based on having the Anglois/British monarch as head of state. But that's IRL, if Hypron would be okay with having full monarchies as part of the Commonwealth I suppose that's cool. Maybe a central Kingdom of Australia with the Principalities of New Zealand and New Guinea as constituents?

Bolding this for a very important reason: Malaysia has it's own Monarch and is in the Commonwealth, so Australasia can do the same.

Also, side question, who currently controls Malta?

Ok, I seemed to recall some members not having the Queen as head of state but still being in the commonwealth
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Postby Sao Nova Europa » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:06 pm

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Postby Chedastan » Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:09 pm

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Postby Union Princes » Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:22 pm

Chewion wrote:Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?


From the looks of it, it's just those three regions.
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Postby Chewion » Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:44 pm

Union Princes wrote:
Chewion wrote:Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?


From the looks of it, it's just those three regions.

Got it, thank you.
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Postby Kenobot » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:02 am

Nationstates Name - Kenobot

Nation Name - Polish People's Republic (Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa)

Capital - Warsaw

Type of Government - Unitary Marxist–Leninist de facto one-party socialist republic

Ideological Leanings - While the official party line is a strictly Marxist-Leninist one, the Polish population’s leanings are far more right leaning. This is best exemplified by the Polish People’s Army and the Milicja Obywatelska (Citizens' Militia), whose leadership and membership were primarily right-leaning and anti-Soviet. The Former Solidarity centre-left consensus has been broken since 1992 and the exposure of Lech Walesa as a former informant of the secret services.

Party in Power - Polish United Workers’ Party

Head of State - Bogusław Ziętek

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Executive Title - First Secretary of the Polish United Workers' Party

Head of Government - Wojciech Konieczny

Image of HoG - Le Link

Executive Title - Chairman of the Council of Ministers

Flag - Linky

Total Population - 45 Million

Demographics - Poland is a primarily Catholic nation with a large Jewish minority. The few other minorities which exist in Poland are Roma, Czechs and Slovaks in border regions and a number of Ukrainians in the eastern regions.

Military Branches - Polish Land Forces, Polish Navy, Polish Air Force and Polish Air Defence Force

Total military size - 300 000 Active 100 000 Reserve

Breakdown of Ground Sector - 250, 000 Active, 92000 Reserve
Tanks -
700 PT-91 Twardy
1200 T-72 M1R

Artillery -
80 AHS Krab
82 M120 RAK
75 WR-40 Langusta
200 2S1 Goździk
29 RM-70
111 Wz. 1977 Dana-T
93 BM-21 Grad

IFVs -
800 BWP-1

Other Vehicles -
90 Skorpion-3
29 WZT-3M
34 WRT Rosomak
8 MID Bizon-S
15 MS-20 Daglezja
12,154 Star 266
1,715 Jelcz

Helicopters -
30 Mil Mi-24
38 PZL W-3
20 Ka-52
27 Mil Mi-8/Mil Mi-17

Breakdown of Naval Sector -
12,000 Active personnel, 2000 Reserve

1 Kilo Class Attack Submarine
3 Orkan Class Attack craft
1 Corvette

Breakdown of Air Force Sector -
38,000 Active Personnel, 6000 Reserve
Combat Aircraft -
24 SU-22
23 MiG-29A/UB
30 SU-27
10 SU-24
30 SU-30
15 SU-25

Major foreign military suppliers - Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia

Extra military information -

GDP - $1.2 Trillion USD

Currency - Polish Zloty

Major import/export partners - Soviet Union, other Comintern nations, nearby neutral states

Public Goals - Maintenance of Peace in Europe, continued prosperity of the Polish people

Private Goals - Overthrow of the Communists by the Hard-right anti-Soviet revanchist Army and Police, restoration of Poland’s ‘Natural Borders’ and to liberate her neighbours from foreign domination.

Major Domestic Issues - Unsettling behaviour of the Army and Police, wage growth low

Major Foreign Issues - Soviet dominion over Poland, Entente forces on the Polish border

History -

1919 - With the Austrian and Russian Empires on the verge of collapse, the Polish exiles from across Europe return to Poland and begin planning for an uprising in coordination with the Entente.
1920 - The Polish War of Independence begins, with the Austrians quickly bowing out and Russians collapsing into revolution.
1921 - As the Soviets under Lenin begin mending the relationship with the Poles, he also began funding the Polish Communist Party
Early 1930s - The Berlin Stock Market Crash hit Poland particularly hard; Poland had taken out large loans from the Germans in order to build the country into an industrial powerhouse. While this achieved its objective, with the Berlin Stock Market Crash Poland could no longer keep up with its repayments and defaulted. This led to mass unemployment, food shortages and riots in the streets that would last another two years until the Polish Revolution of 1932 where the Soviet-funded Communists finally took power.
1935 - Poland officially marks the 14th of May 1935 as the beginning of the Second Polish War of Independence, where the Poles of Posen, East Pommerania, Masuria and Upper Silesia rose up against their German overlords....with heavy assistance from the Polish People's Republic and Soviet Union. Very natural!
1938 - Poland begins prioritising arming its own forces rather than supplying the rebel forces in Germany. The modernisation program is expected to take 2 years
1940 - As the rebels begin to crumble against the Entente forces, Poland and the Soviet Union begin their intervention, marking the beginning of the Second Great War.
1943 - The Polish front had largely ground to a stalemate on the Oder and Neisse, similar the one seen during the First Great War however, both sides were marshalling their forces for large offensives. During 1943 a great Entente offensive crossed the Oder and pushed the Polish-Soviet forces out of Neumark and Eastern Pommerania. The celebrations were however soon cut short as in the Balkans, Bulgaria, cut off from most Entente support fell to combined Romanian and Soviet forces. Another Comintern offensive took Bratislava but failed to break out across the Hungarian Plain while Entente forces concentrated in Karlsbad in order to attempt an offensive against Prague. The front ground to a halt once more with a number of large offensives attempted but failing to gain significant ground and often leading to encirclements as attacking forces were subjected to mechanized counterattacks.
1945 - With the combined death-toll of the Second Great War rising to 13 million by the start of 1945, both sides grew increasingly worried that the war may lead to the great internal instability that destroyed Austria-Hungary and the Mamluk Empire if it were to keep going on. Soon, this led to the May 1945 signing of the Treaty of Copenhagen. The treaty saw Europe's border's redrawn mostly along the line of control. While the war had no decisive victor, it is undeniable that the Comintern had significantly expanded thanks to the conflict, with Poland gaining territory.
1950s- Following the 1955 German detonation of an Atomic bomb, Poland, the Soviet Union and her COMINTERN allies begin a nuclear weapons program which culminates in the 1958 successful detonation of an atomic warhead
1960s-1980 - Generally as IRL
1981 - No martial law is declared in order to suppress solidarity.
1982 - Solidarity's leaders are arrested by the authorities and imprisoned for 5 years
1983 - Solidarity continues its existence underground, slowly gathering pace across Polish Society
1986 - Believing Solidarity had petered out of existence, the Polish authorities release solidarity's leaders; alarming the Soviets in Moscow.
1987 - Solidarity returns in public with Lech Walesa as its public face
Late 1988 - Nationwide protests bring the nation to a standstill. Not wishing to spark a civil war, the authorities do not declare martial law or put down the protests.
Early 1989 - The Soviet Army invades Poland, putting down the protests and establishing martial law until 1993
1992 - Lech Walesa revealed as a former secret police informant, discrediting Solidarity.
1994 -Following the Soviet invasion the country lurches to the right and in an anti-Soviet direction
1998 - The Polish state recovers from the invasion and martial law, resulting in an economic boom.
2002 - The infiltration of the Polish People's Army and Citizen's Militia by right-wing forces begins, unknown to the secret police.
2015 - Anti-Soviet protests begin in Warsaw which the Citizen's Militia refuse to disperse, leading to the small Soviet Garrison being deployed to disperse them, killing 6 in the process.
2020 - As 2020 dawns, the tide against the Soviets and towards the right reaches its height. Soon bullets will not stop the Polish people.
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Postby Honghai » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:36 am

Reserving a Tanzania; working on the app rn.

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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sun Mar 27, 2022 6:44 am

Chewion wrote:Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?


As of now, but as I'll be making some updates to the map after talking to UP and Hypron, I could throw in New Caledonia as well if you'd like?

Huron League wrote:Beautiful Netherlands app


Great work thus far! If you want you could up your military numbers by a bit to some 60/80k or some such. Get some history on there, maybe relating to the Great Wars or decolonization of Indonesia and so on and you're gucci :)

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The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
That was the whole reason I mentioned the Principality thing, the Commonwealth is based on having the Anglois/British monarch as head of state. But that's IRL, if Hypron would be okay with having full monarchies as part of the Commonwealth I suppose that's cool. Maybe a central Kingdom of Australia with the Principalities of New Zealand and New Guinea as constituents?

Bolding this for a very important reason: Malaysia has it's own Monarch and is in the Commonwealth, so Australasia can do the same.

Also, side question, who currently controls Malta?


Oh I see, thanks for the heads-up :p Also, you control Malta.

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Finished my app.


Awesome! Gonna give it a read!

Chedastan wrote:Still working on my app, I expect to have it done at some point tomorrow.


Great! Looking forward to seeing it done!

Chewion wrote:Trying to decide if I’ll have Eurofighters or Gripen jets.


Hmmmm, that's a tough question tbh, both are good, solid aircraft. I'd lean to the Super-JAS Gripen myself

Kenobot wrote:Polski appski


Looks good so far, seems like we may have some European... shenanigans incoming. You could up your population a bit to some 45/46 million if you'd like. As Poland wasn't under anything similar to the IRL Nazi occupation and as Eastern Europe and didn't suffer through the demographic troubles that came after the IRL fall of Communism.

Honghai wrote:Reserving a Tanzania; working on the app rn.


Sorry that's a no-go, Tanzania is part of Anglois East Africa. May I suggest Ethiopia, one of the post-South African states or maybe a Somalia that didn't collapse into a failed state?

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How many states does the UASC have?
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The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Chewion wrote:Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?


As of now, but as I'll be making some updates to the map after talking to UP and Hypron, I could throw in New Caledonia as well if you'd like?

Huron League wrote:Beautiful Netherlands app


Great work thus far! If you want you could up your military numbers by a bit to some 60/80k or some such. Get some history on there, maybe relating to the Great Wars or decolonization of Indonesia and so on and you're gucci :)

Hypron wrote:Bolding this for a very important reason: Malaysia has it's own Monarch and is in the Commonwealth, so Australasia can do the same.

Also, side question, who currently controls Malta?


Oh I see, thanks for the heads-up :p Also, you control Malta.

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Finished my app.


Awesome! Gonna give it a read!

Chedastan wrote:Still working on my app, I expect to have it done at some point tomorrow.


Great! Looking forward to seeing it done!

Chewion wrote:Trying to decide if I’ll have Eurofighters or Gripen jets.


Hmmmm, that's a tough question tbh, both are good, solid aircraft. I'd lean to the Super-JAS Gripen myself

Kenobot wrote:Polski appski


Looks good so far, seems like we may have some European... shenanigans incoming. You could up your population a bit to some 45/46 million if you'd like. As Poland wasn't under anything similar to the IRL Nazi occupation and as Eastern Europe and didn't suffer through the demographic troubles that came after the IRL fall of Communism.

Honghai wrote:Reserving a Tanzania; working on the app rn.


Sorry that's a no-go, Tanzania is part of Anglois East Africa. May I suggest Ethiopia, one of the post-South African states or maybe a Somalia that didn't collapse into a failed state?


What a shame. I guess I'll go with Somalia - though this Somalia will be radically different with what I'm planning to do. I was thinking of having a warlordist state in Tanzania, but seeing as Tanzania is part of the Anglais, I'll have to retry something else.

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The National Dominion of Hungary wrote:
Chewion wrote:Is Australasia IRL Australia, NZ, and PNG? Are there any additional islands etc or anything in it?


As of now, but as I'll be making some updates to the map after talking to UP and Hypron, I could throw in New Caledonia as well if you'd like?

Huron League wrote:Beautiful Netherlands app


Great work thus far! If you want you could up your military numbers by a bit to some 60/80k or some such. Get some history on there, maybe relating to the Great Wars or decolonization of Indonesia and so on and you're gucci :)

Hypron wrote:Bolding this for a very important reason: Malaysia has it's own Monarch and is in the Commonwealth, so Australasia can do the same.

Also, side question, who currently controls Malta?


Oh I see, thanks for the heads-up :p Also, you control Malta.

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Finished my app.


Awesome! Gonna give it a read!

Chedastan wrote:Still working on my app, I expect to have it done at some point tomorrow.


Great! Looking forward to seeing it done!

Chewion wrote:Trying to decide if I’ll have Eurofighters or Gripen jets.


Hmmmm, that's a tough question tbh, both are good, solid aircraft. I'd lean to the Super-JAS Gripen myself

Kenobot wrote:Polski appski


Looks good so far, seems like we may have some European... shenanigans incoming. You could up your population a bit to some 45/46 million if you'd like. As Poland wasn't under anything similar to the IRL Nazi occupation and as Eastern Europe and didn't suffer through the demographic troubles that came after the IRL fall of Communism.

Honghai wrote:Reserving a Tanzania; working on the app rn.


Sorry that's a no-go, Tanzania is part of Anglois East Africa. May I suggest Ethiopia, one of the post-South African states or maybe a Somalia that didn't collapse into a failed state?

Fixed up the population. Anything else you'd like me to add in to the app?
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Postby The National Dominion of Hungary » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:22 am

Arvenia wrote:How many states does the UASC have?


That's totally up to you.

You could have a similar number to IRL but with the states being bigger or differently drawn or you could have more. Maybe the state of Cascadia incorporating Washington state plus southern British Columbia containing both Seattle and Vancouver, California being split between the Sequoia in the north centered around the Bay Area and California being basically SOCAL and Baja. The states of Sonora, Chihuaua in northern Mexico along with the State of Rio Grande with parts of southern Texas and northern Mexico. If you want some suggestions for names of new states.

Honghai wrote:What a shame. I guess I'll go with Somalia - though this Somalia will be radically different with what I'm planning to do. I was thinking of having a warlordist state in Tanzania, but seeing as Tanzania is part of the Anglais, I'll have to retry something else.


All right get the app up and we'll see what we can do.

Kenobot wrote:
Fixed up the population. Anything else you'd like me to add in to the app?


Just some mentions regarding the revolution during the Interwar Era and the Second Great War in the history would be nice, see point 8 and point 9 in the established lore.

Sao Nova Europa wrote:Finished my app.


Accepted! Welcome aboard.
Last edited by The National Dominion of Hungary on Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Individual States of the UASC
  • Maine
  • Massachussetts
  • Rhode Island
  • New York
  • Connecticut
  • Vermont
  • New Hampshire
  • New Jersey
  • Pennsylvania
  • North Carolina
  • South Carolina
  • Ohio
  • Indiana
  • Michigan (Lower Peninsula of Michigan)
  • Ontonagon (Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
  • West Virginia
  • East Virginia (formerly Virginia)
  • Maryland
  • Kentucky
  • Tennessee
  • Georgia
  • Alabama
  • Mississippi
  • Florida
  • Louisiana
  • Texas (including Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas)
  • Arizona
  • Sonora
  • New Mexico
  • California (including Baja California and Baja California Sur)
  • Oregon
  • Lincoln (Washington State)
  • Idaho
  • Utah
  • Nevada
  • Colorado
  • Kansas
  • Wyoming
  • Montana
  • Absaroka
  • North Dakota
  • South Dakota
  • Minnesota
  • Wisconsin
  • Illinois
  • Nebraska
  • Missouri
  • Arkansas
  • Oklahoma
  • Iowa
  • Hawaii
  • Alaska
  • Yucatán
  • Alberta
  • Saskatchewan
  • Manitoba
  • Gastineau (Northern British Columbia and Southeast Alaska)
  • Kootenai (Southern British Columbia)
  • Yukon (including Northwestern Territories)
  • Nunavut
  • Sequoyah
  • Jefferson (parts of Southern Oregon and Northern California)
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