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Diarcesia
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Hear me out... Putin is all for world peace. His method is to make literally the rest of the world hate him.

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Postby Shekelesh » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:07 pm

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Suriyanakhon wrote:
There's so much Duginist rhetoric in the article it's a bit unnerving.


can't wait until nsg learns about ilyin

I am very much aware of Ilyin and his hope to see fascism arise in Russia.
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Postby Luxenermy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:07 pm

Diarcesia wrote:Hear me out... Putin is all for world peace. His method is to make literally the rest of the world hate him.


Ah, the Lelouch approach.
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Postby Port Caverton » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:09 pm

Trostskia wrote:If Putin loses Ukraine how likely is it that he'd start nuclear Armageddon out of spite and if he tried to would his generals be willing to launch a coup when they realize he's not bluffing?

Hopefully his men lynch him if he tries to do that.
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Postby Diarcesia » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:09 pm

Luxenermy wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Hear me out... Putin is all for world peace. His method is to make literally the rest of the world hate him.


Ah, the Lelouch approach.

Kore ga... Zero Requiem... да.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:10 pm

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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:10 pm

Gallia- wrote:
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It has that context in English too. Problem is in the context used, it reads more like the insult. I'll take him at his word though


It really doesn't, or at least not in the English I speak and heard (who says "bitch" when they spill milk on the counter?). "Fuck" is a closer approximation, or "darn" for Americans I guess.


Regional dialects are of course a thing. I say it all the time like that, and most people I know do too.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:11 pm

Luxenermy wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Hear me out... Putin is all for world peace. His method is to make literally the rest of the world hate him.


Ah, the Lelouch approach.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT YOU NINJA’D ME.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:11 pm

NPCWest Florida wrote:
Luxenermy wrote:
Like that one time a Senator wanted a No-Fly zone over Syria.

Wait, is it the same Senator??? LOL

I think so

Need to import more duct tape into Mississippi.
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Postby Luxenermy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:11 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Luxenermy wrote:
Ah, the Lelouch approach.

I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT YOU NINJA’D ME.


:D
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Postby Kowani » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:13 pm

Luxenermy wrote:
Wait, is it the same Senator??? LOL

it is, yes
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:14 pm

https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

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Postby Luxenermy » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:15 pm

NPCWest Florida wrote:
Luxenermy wrote:
Wait, is it the same Senator??? LOL

I think so


Kowani wrote:it is, yes


Incredible. Some people know, some people appreciate what others know, but this man, this man is truly special.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:16 pm

Trostskia wrote:If Putin loses Ukraine how likely is it that he'd start nuclear Armageddon out of spite and if he tried to would his generals be willing to launch a coup when they realize he's not bluffing?


Putin trying to go nuclear is probably the point where he dies of a self-inflicted gunshot to the back of the head.
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Postby Dtn » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:16 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
It has that context in English too. Problem is in the context used, it reads more like the insult. I'll take him at his word though


It really doesn't, or at least not in the English I speak and heard (who says "bitch" when they spill milk on the counter?). "Fuck" is a closer approximation, or "darn" for Americans I guess.


dagnabbit

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Postby Saiwania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:16 pm

Malaiya Union wrote:If that's the case then Russia has spectacularly failed in a scale that has never been seen before, like there hasn't been such a geopolitical decision disaster since Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.


It shouldn't be too late for Putin to admit that he was wrong and to have Russia completely call off the invasion in exchange for Ukraine signing a treaty that'll have them cooperate in transporting Russia's energy to Europe duty free on a permanent basis. Ukraine can join the EU in exchange for not joining NATO and so on. But if Russia can't secure conditions that benefit them, they have the incentive to keep this war going to try to replace Ukraine's government, regardless of the cost to Russia.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:17 pm

Trostskia wrote:If Putin loses Ukraine how likely is it that he'd start nuclear Armageddon out of spite and if he tried to would his generals be willing to launch a coup when they realize he's not bluffing?


Putin is evil but he is not a total moron.

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Postby El Lazaro » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:18 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1498447549493092352

Is OSINTdefender trustworthy? There’s been a pattern of stuff like this, so it wouldn’t be surprising if the report is real.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:21 pm

The Commonwealth of Tennessee wrote:
Trostskia wrote:If Putin loses Ukraine how likely is it that he'd start nuclear Armageddon out of spite and if he tried to would his generals be willing to launch a coup when they realize he's not bluffing?

Not at all likely. He'd truly have lost it at that point, I would see him flatten Kyiv faster than he'd do that much.

He and medev have said a world without Russia is not worth having. The words are very scary.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Adamede » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:22 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:the russians are winning right now and news of their victories are being censored by the globalist elite

They're winning because they're avoiding large battles where the Ukrainains in defensive postions would have the postion, instead manuvering around them.

Tell me has Russian "media" reported their losses yet?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:23 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Commonwealth of Tennessee wrote:Not at all likely. He'd truly have lost it at that point, I would see him flatten Kyiv faster than he'd do that much.

He and medev have said a world without Russia is not worth having. The words are very scary.


what the heck is that supposed to mean? A world without Russia? No one is going to blow up Russia. Putin is not going to launch nuclear weapons.

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Postby Gallia- » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:23 pm

Dtn wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
It really doesn't, or at least not in the English I speak and heard (who says "bitch" when they spill milk on the counter?). "Fuck" is a closer approximation, or "darn" for Americans I guess.


dagnabbit


I usually say "heck" or "darn" cos I'm a good wholesome boi.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:23 pm



Well yes, I agree.

On the bright side this makes a Trump 2024 run less likely
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Adamede » Mon Feb 28, 2022 5:24 pm


Not personally much of a fan of Trudeau or his politics but if he does that he and Canada will have earned my respect.

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