The Invasion of Ukraine, Russia Threatens Finland/Sweden

[Grenartia]

Not really, Trump basically owed his entire presidency to Putin.

I didn't realize people still believe the Russian collusion lie. Wow.

Putin is well-known for propping up far-right politicians in plenty of other countries, so why is it so difficult to believe he propped up Trump?

[Adamede]

ECB predicts seemingly instant bankruptcy for dependencies of one of Russia's largest bank, Sberbank. It seems like Sberbank has many operations and branches in Europe.

far be it from me to express concern over the lots of bankers...but it seems to me that a country of 120 million people and a vast nuclear stockpile time-warping their economy to 1902 with an isolated dictator at the wheel might have some unintended consequences

North Korea but super-sized.

[Kot Unduk]

I didn't realize people still believe the Russian collusion lie. Wow.

Putin is well-known for propping up far-right politicians in plenty of other countries, so why is it so difficult to believe he propped up Trump?

Makes you wonder...

[Senkaku]

"invasion" has such a negative valence. think of it more as a conscious, rapid movement of persons across imagined historo-geographo-political delineations which signify the agreed-upon metaphysical frontier of a conceptual transatlantic empire

It's only an invasion if it's from the Invasion region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling hostile troop movements.

funnier, pithier, memetically referential... what am I here for anyways

[Grenartia]

Like it or not, what American politicians think about the situation in Ukraine is entirely relevant to this thread, as that inherently has implications for American policy in regards to Ukraine, Russia, and NATO.

America has formed it's consensus, we already know what Congress - Senate - and Executive have proposed and done. We already gauged media and public support. Nothing more is needed. America isn't a special snowflake that the world revolves around.
Even in horrific wars we must, for whatever nationalistic Yankee reason, reduce everything to what 'Mitt Romney has tweeted' or whatever bullshit. Unless it's truly a crucial announcement, it's unimportant.

I mean, who am I to argue with your strawman of me?

[Senkaku]

ECB predicts seemingly instant bankruptcy for dependencies of one of Russia's largest bank, Sberbank. It seems like Sberbank has many operations and branches in Europe.

far be it from me to express concern over the lots of bankers...but it seems to me that a country of 120 million people and a vast nuclear stockpile time-warping their economy to 1902 with an isolated dictator at the wheel might have some unintended consequences

I think it's going to be a great time; just think positive Kow

[Kowani]

Fighter jets head from Belarus towards Ukraine

[The Lone Alliance]

I didn't realize people still believe the Russian collusion lie. Wow.

Putin is well-known for propping up far-right politicians in plenty of other countries, so why is it so difficult to believe he propped up Trump?

Yeah but that doesn't mean Trump owes his entire Presidency to Putin, that's putting too much credit on Putin and not enough about how much of a clusterfuck of a campaign 2016 was, the people who want to blame all of Trump's victory on Putin are the people who don't want to admit that there were a lot of internal failures of 2016 that can't simply be blamed on "Russia did it".

Putin helped and supported Trump, but there was just enough 'help' and 'support' through incompetence from the Hillary Campaign and his other Republican opponents that were just as helpful in letting Trump win.

[El Lazaro]

Is this still about the Russian cannibals or is it morally wrong to imply Imperial Japan practiced imperialism and Peal Harbor was bad?

Not that! The fact that KKK is hidden in "American". That's the subliminal racism, you get it?

The joke is that “Amerikkka” is a wholly unrelated criticism of America that is being used just because it is negative and not because it pertains to the situation. Tankies are fond of whataboutisms.

EDIT: unless Japan secretly only joined the Axis and started a war to end the moral evil of racism, then I guess it is justified.

[Adamede]

It's only an invasion if it's from the Invasion region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling hostile troop movements.

funnier, pithier, memetically referential... what am I here for anyways

Saying a bunch of big words that my sleep deprived mind has a hard time understanding so I can just retell your joke and ride on your coat tails..

[The Lone Alliance]

Regardless of whether or not NATO ought to have disbanded after the Cold War, this war just breathed 100 years of life into it. Russia is going to be even less secure regardless of whether or not it wins in Ukraine.

I feel like Germany announcing re-armament and the reactivation of its reactors has not gotten nearly enough press for the absolutely earth-shattering geopolitical development it represents-- and under an SDP/Green coalition no less? It's as seismic a moment as the announcement of Merkel's initial Syrian refugee policy, probably even moreso.

I guess Germany decided that there's a far Greater risk of a nuclear disaster by paying Russia for gas there there is from a Tsunami hitting Germany.

[Adamede]

I will say in my opinion so far this entire shitfest has been a good example of the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

[Kot Unduk]

Not that! The fact that KKK is hidden in "American". That's the subliminal racism, you get it?

The joke is that “Amerikkka” is a wholly unrelated criticism of America that is being used just because it is negative and not because it pertains to the situation. Tankies are fond of whataboutisms.

EDIT: unless Japan secretly only joined the Axis and started a war to end the moral evil of racism, then I guess it is justified.

Japan was a perpetrator of racism. I know this very well. They have all these ideas of "race purity" and shit like that dating since forever. The Rising Sun is comparable to a swastika over hear.

[Kowani]

far be it from me to express concern over the lots of bankers...but it seems to me that a country of 120 million people and a vast nuclear stockpile time-warping their economy to 1902 with an isolated dictator at the wheel might have some unintended consequences

I think it's going to be a great time; just think positive Kow

this is so dumb

[El Lazaro]

The joke is that “Amerikkka” is a wholly unrelated criticism of America that is being used just because it is negative and not because it pertains to the situation. Tankies are fond of whataboutisms.

EDIT: unless Japan secretly only joined the Axis and started a war to end the moral evil of racism, then I guess it is justified.

Japan was a perpetrator of racism. I know this very well. They have all these ideas of "race purity" and shit like that dating since forever. The Rising Sun is comparable to a swastika over hear.

I feel like you’re making me explain the joke every time I make one so I’m forced to stop being sarcastic. Oh well, the one here is that they actually were racist and the treatment of black people in America has nothing to with the attack on Pearl Harbor.

[Latvijas Otra Republika]

America has formed it's consensus, we already know what Congress - Senate - and Executive have proposed and done. We already gauged media and public support. Nothing more is needed. America isn't a special snowflake that the world revolves around.
Even in horrific wars we must, for whatever nationalistic Yankee reason, reduce everything to what 'Mitt Romney has tweeted' or whatever bullshit. Unless it's truly a crucial announcement, it's unimportant.

I mean, who am I to argue with your strawman of me?

Didn’t write anything specific to you, I don’t know who you are

[Kowani]

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) signs executive order preventing state government from doing business or investing in any Russian entities

[Malaiya Union]

In any case, the West still have one more sanction up in their sleeve: unrestricted asylum and green/blue cards for Russians, especially Russians with skill of like anything, who wishes to not be a part of this. Implemented appropriately this will make SWIFT look like a slap in the wrist. This sanction will also be morally righteous.

[El Lazaro]

I will say in my opinion so far this entire shitfest has been a good example of the difference between patriotism and nationalism.

For sure, and I’m pleasantly surprised how Ukraine has relied on the former rather than the latter. A liberal government using anti-nationalist rhetoric to successfully rally its people is especially unexpected in Ukraine, where stuff like this is the exact reason there are a lot of nationalists.

[Saiwania]

In any case, the West still have one more sanction up in their sleeve: unrestricted asylum and green/blue cards for Russians, especially Russians with skill of like anything, who wishes to not be a part of this. Implemented appropriately this will make SWIFT look like a slap in the wrist.

The issue is can they be trusted? It'd essentially risk inviting in a fifth column or trojan horse. Some won't keep loyalties to Russia but others that're mixed in surely would.

[Kot Unduk]

Japan was a perpetrator of racism. I know this very well. They have all these ideas of "race purity" and shit like that dating since forever. The Rising Sun is comparable to a swastika over hear.

I feel like you’re making me explain the joke every time I make one so I’m forced to stop being sarcastic. Oh well, the one here is that they actually were racist and the treatment of black people in America has nothing to with the attack on Pearl Harbor.

And you forgot to mention how this relates to Ukraine. Clearly the Japanese sanctions on Russia are the result of pressure from ghosts of the Confederacy, who themselves are illusions created by Ukraine. We full circle?

[Farnhamia]

I feel like you’re making me explain the joke every time I make one so I’m forced to stop being sarcastic. Oh well, the one here is that they actually were racist and the treatment of black people in America has nothing to with the attack on Pearl Harbor.

And you forgot to mention how this relates to Ukraine. Clearly the Japanese sanctions on Russia are the result of pressure from ghosts of the Confederacy, who themselves are illusions created by Ukraine. We full circle?

I think so, so drop the subject.

[Kot Unduk]

And you forgot to mention how this relates to Ukraine. Clearly the Japanese sanctions on Russia are the result of pressure from ghosts of the Confederacy, who themselves are illusions created by Ukraine. We full circle?

I think so, so drop the subject.

Shall we return to Ukraine?

[El Lazaro]

At the rate things are going, how long does Russia have until they run out of money to finance this war?

[Balheim]

At the rate things are going, how long does Russia have until they run out of money to finance this war?

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