[PASSED] Liberate The Mystical Council

[WayNeacTia]

yeah that's fair, it's also good to consider the more silently supportive parts of the population. although if 3 is a "good proportion" of the active natives left, that's definitely not too many people left to be invested in the region overall. can certainly understand why those who are left do care, though.

Hi, 4th here, and not a very silent 4th either.

Here's an active ticker with the remaining native's opinions of Liberate TMC. One can either lament the loss, or move on, emboldened to tackle the narrative. I prefer the latter.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=poll/p=182998

You seem to have a decent community over at Mystical Alliance. Let the past go man......

[Malcholm]

You seem to have a decent community over at Mystical Alliance. Let the past go man......

There an issue with the decent community in The Mystical Alliance celebrating Alistia's efforts to defend our former home and holding a referendum on their work?

[Alistia]

Unlikely that the founder account of the new TMC will cte anytime soon, but preventing a password leaves open hope for the future, with little downside, so I will still be voting for.

[Penguin Dictators]

Unlikely that the founder account of the new TMC will cte anytime soon, but preventing a password leaves open hope for the future, with little downside, so I will still be voting for.

Will it prevent the founder password though?

I mean, it makes sense it'd prevent it from the delegate, but the founder?

[Lord Dominator]

Unlikely that the founder account of the new TMC will cte anytime soon, but preventing a password leaves open hope for the future, with little downside, so I will still be voting for.

Will it prevent the founder password though?

I mean, it makes sense it'd prevent it from the delegate, but the founder?

You're going to need an admin opinion to look at the Liberate code. I'm not seeing any game-side distinction between a founder-imposed password and a delegate-imposed password. If [violet] was clever enough to draw a distinction, she or Ballo or Salusa would have to explain it.

The term 'Delegate-imposed' means it's not about who actually sets the password (the term 'Delegate-set' would've been used in that case) but under who's authority the password is imposed on those trying to enter the region. If the founder nation is alive (regardless which region it is in or whether the delegate has access to regional controls), any password present is deemed set with the (indirect) authority of the Founder nation and thus be Founder-imposed. Only if there is no living Founder will any password be deemed Delegate-imposed.

So, imagine Founder sets a password and then Ceases to Exist. There no longer being a Founder means any present Delegate automatically obtains access to regional controls, and from then onward the password is deemed to be Delegate-imposed.

Ballotonia

[Penguin Dictators]

-snip-

It was kind of a rhetorical question to Alistia.

I was already pretty sure that it wouldn't have any bearing at all on a founder-set password when the founder was still around. But I do appreciate quoting that exact explanation of how it works, since there was some smaller specifics I wasn't sure about (like if it differentiates between if the delegate puts it up while the founder is still active).

[Lord Dominator]

-snip-

It was kind of a rhetorical question to Alistia.

I was already pretty sure that it wouldn't have any bearing at all on a founder-set password when the founder was still around. But I do appreciate quoting that exact explanation of how it works, since there was some smaller specifics I wasn't sure about (like if it differentiates between if the delegate puts it up while the founder is still active).

Absolutely

[Scalandia]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

I'm not confident you quite understand the situation.

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

I'm not confident you quite understand the situation.

That’s for real. They’re going to be very disappointed when this proposal passes.

[Republic of Watermelon Isles]

to be fair that's literally like. two people. like i'm not saying the small sample size means natives don't care, but i am saying that it's also not great evidence that they do care. if you take a look at tmc's rmb since the raid started, there aren't really that many native reactions, either.

The post I was responding to said that "those who care enough to talk" had accepted the region’s fate. That’s categorically false. Beyond that, the natives who are speaking up are of the region’s native government. Hardly randoms. Im not sure what your point is meant to convey.

[Penguin Dictators]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

I'm not confident you quite understand the situation.

shh, let's not spoil the surprise, it's more fun that way.

[New King Isles]

What

stop raiding

I won't stop raiding

[WayNeacTia]

Well since TMC was refounded, this bill is now 100% pointless aside from seeing some folks make spectacles of themselves when there's literally nothing they can do since the region is under new ownership.

It's a shame, but that's how the game goes unfortunately.

Proof that the system works exactly as intended…..

[WayNeacTia]

Seeing as how the region was refounded and the liberation is pointless, I am SHOCKED that emergency rooms all over the world aren’t full of people injured from tripping over their own shoelaces trying to be the first to repeal this and grab some of that sweet, sweet badge goodness…..

[Straona]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

You realize it won't work since the original is gone correct? Also you defenders can be just as much scumbags as raiders too sometimes. Don't put yourself on a pedestal

[Farnhamia]

I have been acting with a defender coalition to liberate this region for over a week before getting burnt out, and I'm glad that we have a Security Council resolution to restore The Mystical Council once and for all. Defenders' efforts have not been in vain. Full support of this resolution.

Glory to Artificial Solar System for being the launching point of these efforts! Glory to the Lord of Trash! Glory to defenders!

You realize it won't work since the original is gone correct? Also you defenders can be just as much scumbags as raiders too sometimes. Don't put yourself on a pedestal

*** Warned for flaming ***

[Fachumonn]

Seeing as how the region was refounded and the liberation is pointless, I am SHOCKED that emergency rooms all over the world aren’t full of people injured from tripping over their own shoelaces trying to be the first to repeal this and grab some of that sweet, sweet badge goodness…..

Hmm good idea! Lol. viewtopic.php?f=24&t=516089&p=39406465#p39406465

[Tinhampton]

Liberate The Mystical Council was passed 12,285 votes to 3,372. (78.46% support)

[Fachumonn]

Liberate The Mystical Council was passed 12,285 votes to 3,372. (78.46% support)

It may get repealed soon. The Mystical Alliance is holding a referendum on the topic if or if not to repeal the resolution.