UK Politics Thread IX: Try turning the UK off and on again.

[The Nihilistic view]

Bet you'll be all over it celrit when it turns out Northumbria would rejoin the EU.

[Celritannia]

Bet you'll be all over it celrit when it turns out Northumbria would rejoin the EU.

Well, first Northumbria would have to reunite, which is highly unlikely. And even then, no. I don't want to see the break up of the GB, but I do support Irish unification.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

That is hardly relevant to my question.

Considering the Current UK state is still beneficial, I don't see why I have to explain it. Serious reforms including a PR system is necessary, but the overall state functions well enough, despite the embarrassment of the Tory Party in charge.

So really, I don't have to explain anything, you have to tell me why Northumberland Independence is essential, how it is achievable, and how it would be funded.
Since you cannot, there is no point in even listening to your suggestion.

You misunderstand my genuine interest and take a needlessly combative stance. Disappointing.

Bet you'll be all over it celrit when it turns out Northumbria would rejoin the EU.

NSG, if I hadn't posted the threads until Proudfoot started on it, would've been all over it in support. I know for a fact one person who opposed it early on changed their mind anyway once it became a fringe left cause.

[Celritannia]

Considering the Current UK state is still beneficial, I don't see why I have to explain it. Serious reforms including a PR system is necessary, but the overall state functions well enough, despite the embarrassment of the Tory Party in charge.

So really, I don't have to explain anything, you have to tell me why Northumberland Independence is essential, how it is achievable, and how it would be funded.
Since you cannot, there is no point in even listening to your suggestion.

You misunderstand my genuine interest and take a needlessly combative stance. Disappointing.

Your genuine interest is to further fracture the Britain, but why?

[Philjia]

The speaker of the House of Commons has asked police to look into allegations that there's widespread use of cocaine at Westminster.

I bet there's a lot going on but nobody gets caught.

[Ifreann]

You'd think they'd have some kind of ceremonial snorting room or the like.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

You misunderstand my genuine interest and take a needlessly combative stance. Disappointing.

Your genuine interest is to further fracture the Britain, but why?

It's part of my long-term revenge plan for being turned down when I applied to appear on Brain of Britain.

[The Nihilistic view]

You'd think they'd have some kind of ceremonial snorting room or the like.

It's the icing room....

[Esheaun Stroakuss]

The speaker of the House of Commons has asked police to look into allegations that there's widespread use of cocaine at Westminster.

I bet there's a lot going on but nobody gets caught.

Of course they do cocaine.

[Nioya]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

[The Huskar Social Union]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

Oh yeah i forgot about that. Cool i guess.

[The BlAAtschApen]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

Cthulhu has been lobbying again, I see.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

I think it's ridiculous.

[Old Tyrannia]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

It's long overdue.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Johnson plots to let ministers scrap legal rulings they don’t like

Boris Johnson is set to launch a fresh war with judges over plans to let ministers toss out any legal rulings they do not like.

The prime minister wants to limit the power of the course to overrule government decisions through the process of judicial review, according to The Times.

Dominic Raab, the justice secretary, has been ordered to toughen up plans to reform the power of judges to rule on the legality of ministerial decisions.

One option drawn up by Raab and Suella Braverman, the attorney general, is for MPs to pass an annual “Interpretation Bill” to strike out findings from judicial reviews that the government doesn’t agree with.

Whitehall sources told the newspaper that the plans would reinforce parliament’s constitutional sovereignty over an unelected judiciary.

But they have provoked outrage within the legal establishment, with Johnson accused of seeking to use his Commons majority to stop legitimate challenges to his authority and create “a more compliant judiciary”.

The prime minister’s desire to curtail judicial review reportedly stems from two cases brought by anti-Brexit activist Gina Miller, allies told The Times.

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[The BlAAtschApen]

Johnson plots to let ministers scrap legal rulings they don’t like

Boris Johnson is set to launch a fresh war with judges over plans to let ministers toss out any legal rulings they do not like.

The prime minister wants to limit the power of the course to overrule government decisions through the process of judicial review, according to The Times.

Dominic Raab, the justice secretary, has been ordered to toughen up plans to reform the power of judges to rule on the legality of ministerial decisions.

One option drawn up by Raab and Suella Braverman, the attorney general, is for MPs to pass an annual “Interpretation Bill” to strike out findings from judicial reviews that the government doesn’t agree with.

Whitehall sources told the newspaper that the plans would reinforce parliament’s constitutional sovereignty over an unelected judiciary.

But they have provoked outrage within the legal establishment, with Johnson accused of seeking to use his Commons majority to stop legitimate challenges to his authority and create “a more compliant judiciary”.

The prime minister’s desire to curtail judicial review reportedly stems from two cases brought by anti-Brexit activist Gina Miller, allies told The Times.

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These kind of things is what brought Poland into trouble with the EU.

Maybe it's a good thing the UK has left

[Philjia]

Johnson plots to let ministers scrap legal rulings they don’t like

Boris Johnson is set to launch a fresh war with judges over plans to let ministers toss out any legal rulings they do not like.

The prime minister wants to limit the power of the course to overrule government decisions through the process of judicial review, according to The Times.

Dominic Raab, the justice secretary, has been ordered to toughen up plans to reform the power of judges to rule on the legality of ministerial decisions.

One option drawn up by Raab and Suella Braverman, the attorney general, is for MPs to pass an annual “Interpretation Bill” to strike out findings from judicial reviews that the government doesn’t agree with.

Whitehall sources told the newspaper that the plans would reinforce parliament’s constitutional sovereignty over an unelected judiciary.

But they have provoked outrage within the legal establishment, with Johnson accused of seeking to use his Commons majority to stop legitimate challenges to his authority and create “a more compliant judiciary”.

The prime minister’s desire to curtail judicial review reportedly stems from two cases brought by anti-Brexit activist Gina Miller, allies told The Times.

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Important context:
Judicial review cannot determine whether a correct choice was made by an organisation, only whether the organisation fulfilled its statutory responsibilities in the course of making the decision. (Of course, if procedure wasn't followed, the decision is often wrong as a result) It is an important tool to ensure government departments, councils, etc. aren't doing sloppy work.

[The New California Republic]

These kind of things is what brought Poland into trouble with the EU.

Maybe it's a good thing the UK has left

It's debateable whether such a move would have been made in the absence of Brexit, which has tainted the whole political well and led to a number of outcomes that likely wouldn't have happened but for.

[The BlAAtschApen]

These kind of things is what brought Poland into trouble with the EU.

Maybe it's a good thing the UK has left

It's debateable whether such a move would have been made in the absence of Brexit, which has tainted the whole political well and led to a number of outcomes that likely wouldn't have happened but for.

I know.

I am just saying, taking power away from the judiciary is a dangerous move. It does erode internal checks and balances of power, even if parliament rules supreme.

[Kerwa]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

Lobsters aren’t. They are big insects. (I worked on a lobster boat for a while). I’ve also sent a million crabs to crabby heaven and they are the same. Especially the blue ones.

Don’t know about octopuses, other than I think their nerves are unmyelinated so I’m not not sure gross comparisons count.

Anyway given that parliament’s sentience itself is in doubt, should they even be setting these standards?

[Ifreann]

Bad news for whoever's been dealing coke to Boris Johnson, he's going to take away your passport.

[The Nihilistic view]

So how do you guys feel about the parliament recognizing octopuses and other animals as sentient?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busine ... 1-11%3famp

I'm sure they had a good laugh passing that and then going to eat their subsidised lobster.

[The Nihilistic view]

Bad news for whoever's been dealing coke to Boris Johnson, he's going to take away your passport.

So hippy left wingers can't vote? That's actually genius.

[Ifreann]

Bad news for whoever's been dealing coke to Boris Johnson, he's going to take away your passport.

So hippy left wingers can't vote? That's actually genius.

Hippy left wingers smoke weed, this is targetted at class A drugs. And you don't need a passport to vote. I think this is more aimed an ruining the holiday plans of uncooperative journalists.

[Nationalist Northumbria]

Bad news for whoever's been dealing coke to Boris Johnson, he's going to take away your passport.

So hippy left wingers can't vote? That's actually genius.

'Hippy left wingers' (who, as Ifreann says, generally don't do class A drugs) live in London constituencies where Labour already stacks up the votes and the 'soft opposition' (in terms of potential votes), especially under Starmer, are the Greens. The idea that this is remotely related to electoral strategy, as you are implying, is utterly ridiculous.