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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:39 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
New haven america wrote:Must be invisible then cause no one can see it.

Would you mind repeating for the class why you hate women?

ok, Did I say so, I like US Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett, Sarah Palin, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Iron Lady of Britain, Baroness, and British Prime Minister of Great Britain, Maggie Thatcher and many more Lady's.

Yes.

Why do you hate them?

Avoidance is just further proving the point of your contempt for them.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:39 am

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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Did I say so, I like US Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett, Sarah Palin, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Iron Lady of Britain, Baroness, and British Prime Minister of Great Britain, Maggie Thatcher and many more Lady's.


So you also support the widespread oppression of the working classes.

um yes?
i thought it was already clear that GMS and his eight generations of ancestors were rich cuban landowners.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:40 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
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So you also support the widespread oppression of the working classes.

um yes?
i thought it was already clear that GMS and his eight generations of ancestors were rich cuban landowners.

Former rich Cuban landowners.

They escaped and became rich Cuban American landowners.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:41 am

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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:ok, Did I say so, I like US Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett, Sarah Palin, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Iron Lady of Britain, Baroness, and British Prime Minister of Great Britain, Maggie Thatcher and many more Lady's.


So you like a couple of token women means it’s OK to advocate for reducing women to broodmares.

No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:43 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
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So you like a couple of token women means it’s OK to advocate for reducing women to broodmares.

No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.

No, your views are that women are broodmares and probably that pregnancy is punishment.

So why do you hate women.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:44 am

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So you like a couple of token women means it’s OK to advocate for reducing women to broodmares.

No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


And thus the mother should be stripped of the right to control the use of her body.
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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:58 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


So does contraception, so you'll forbid condoms too ? And actually so does not having sex, so you'll mandate sex every day for fertile hetero couples ? And you'll also ban celibacy and gay/lesbian too, I guess ?
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Postby Antipatros » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:02 am

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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


So does contraception, so you'll forbid condoms too ? And actually so does not having sex, so you'll mandate sex every day for fertile hetero couples ? And you'll also ban celibacy and gay/lesbian too, I guess ?

The ol' Jordan Peterson "enforced monogamy" position.

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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:04 am

Vassenor wrote:So remember that two of the five supreme court judges who are likely to vote to overturn Roe v Wade have credible sexual assault allegations against them that got swept under the rug. It’s not about the sanctity of life or the constitution or anything like that, it’s about control over women. Always has been.


It's about control over women, sure, but also about political point-scoring. The GOP knows it will never win an election on "cut taxes for the very rich, cut social spending for everyone else and let infrastructure rot", so it needs other issues (abortion, gun rights, CRT, immigration, ...) which can appeal to some people's irrational fears to make some vote for them (and since even that is not enough, they then need gerrymandering and voting suppression in addition).
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:04 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you also support the widespread oppression of the working classes.

um yes?
i thought it was already clear that GMS and his eight generations of ancestors were rich cuban landowners.

Yes, we were rich $ Cuban landowners, we were mostly middle class, had cars, houses, farms, the hotel bar and restaurant and other businesses. Voltaire was the rich $ upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of High Society. He had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana, not Havana, La Habana and many business $ investments. I could have been the General Manager of a chain of restaurants across Cuba, Miami, Florida and the USA. I am very proud of it, with Pride and Honor. Viva España La Madre Patria.

But Fidel nationalized all our businesses and businesses of American citizens, while he and his socialist governing elite live like rich upper class capitalists $, like this link proves:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

GMS.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:05 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


So does contraception, so you'll forbid condoms too ? And actually so does not having sex, so you'll mandate sex every day for fertile hetero couples ? And you'll also ban celibacy and gay/lesbian too, I guess ?

I mean, the first and third points were illegal because of the Christian view of sex needing to allow for procreation.

Also, the 2nd part, while not mandated sex, marriage was considered a legal blanket consent to all sexual activity within the marriage. Took until the late 70's for the US to fully illegalize marital rape.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:09 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:um yes?
i thought it was already clear that GMS and his eight generations of ancestors were rich cuban landowners.

Yes, we were rich $ Cuban landowners, we were mostly middle class, had cars, houses, farms, the hotel bar and restaurant and other businesses. Voltaire was the rich $ upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of High Society. He had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana, not Havana, La Habana and many business $ investments. I could have been the General Manager of a chain of restaurants across Cuba, Miami, Florida and the USA. I am very proud of it, with Pride and Honor. Viva España La Madre Patria.

But Fidel nationalized all our businesses and businesses of American citizens, while he and his socialist governing elite live like rich upper class capitalists $, like this link proves:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

GMS.

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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:09 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:It is about sanctity of life


The sanctity of life that stops when the baby is born, right ? Death penalty is not a violation of sanctity of life, war is not a violation of sanctity of life, cops killing black persons is not, letting a deadly virus spread is not, denying people healthcare is not, even stripping people of healthcare during a pandemics (as the GOP tried to do) is not, making people drink polluted water or breath polluted air is not, evicting families from their home is not, ... it's only a violation of sanctity of life when it's an embryo with no brain and therefore no person inside, right ?
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Postby Eahland » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:10 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


So does contraception, so you'll forbid condoms too ? And actually so does not having sex, so you'll mandate sex every day for fertile hetero couples ? And you'll also ban celibacy and gay/lesbian too, I guess ?

Menstruation is manslaughter!
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:12 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Yes, we were rich $ Cuban landowners, we were mostly middle class, had cars, houses, farms, the hotel bar and restaurant and other businesses. Voltaire was the rich $ upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of High Society. He had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana, not Havana, La Habana and many business $ investments. I could have been the General Manager of a chain of restaurants across Cuba, Miami, Florida and the USA. I am very proud of it, with Pride and Honor. Viva España La Madre Patria.

But Fidel nationalized all our businesses and businesses of American citizens, while he and his socialist governing elite live like rich upper class capitalists $, like this link proves:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

GMS.

If you are a Catholic, consider Rerum novarum and talk to your priest about how getting into heaven will be harder than getting a camel through the eye of a needle, for you.

Matthew 19:24 to be specific.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:12 am

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Kilobugya wrote:
So does contraception, so you'll forbid condoms too ? And actually so does not having sex, so you'll mandate sex every day for fertile hetero couples ? And you'll also ban celibacy and gay/lesbian too, I guess ?

Menstruation is manslaughter!

Nutting is genocide.
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Postby Kilobugya » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:53 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Yes, we were rich $ Cuban landowners, we were mostly middle class, had cars, houses, farms, the hotel bar and restaurant and other businesses. Voltaire was the rich $ upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of High Society. He had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana, not Havana, La Habana and many business $ investments.


Owning five restaurants isn't being middle class, it's being part of the bourgeoisie, it means your family was not earning its income through providing labor, but through exploiting the labor of others. The cook and waitress in all the restaurants worked, created wealth by doing so, and your family paid them only for a part of the wealth they created, putting the rest in their pockets just because they were owners. The basics of capitalist exploitation. And the Cuban Revolution was right to expropriate them.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:56 am

New haven america wrote:
Eahland wrote:Menstruation is manslaughter!

Nutting is genocide.


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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:13 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Yes, we were rich $ Cuban landowners, we were mostly middle class, had cars, houses, farms, the hotel bar and restaurant and other businesses. Voltaire was the rich $ upper class Padrino of my family in Cuba, a member of High Society. He had 5 family style restaurants in La Habana, not Havana, La Habana and many business $ investments.


Owning five restaurants isn't being middle class, it's being part of the bourgeoisie, it means your family was not earning its income through providing labor, but through exploiting the labor of others. The cook and waitress in all the restaurants worked, created wealth by doing so, and your family paid them only for a part of the wealth they created, putting the rest in their pockets just because they were owners. The basics of capitalist exploitation. And the Cuban Revolution was right to expropriate them.

You forgot the Hotel Bar and Restaurant. Do you support this? But Fidel nationalized all our businesses and businesses of American citizens, while he and his socialist governing elite live like rich upper class capitalists $, like this link proves:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

GMS.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:28 am

American Pol-Thread 8: Upper class guy condemns other ppl's capitalism.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:30 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you like a couple of token women means it’s OK to advocate for reducing women to broodmares.

No, my views on abortion are, it prevents the life of a baby to be, a kid to be and a person to be.


So when can I harvest your blood and organs to keep a few other people alive ?
After all, if you think life is so important that a woman should be forced to share her body to prevent death, the same ofc applies to men.

Right ?

So gimme your kidney and a few gallons of blood.
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Postby Comerciante » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:33 am

New haven america wrote:
Eahland wrote:Menstruation is manslaughter!

Nutting is genocide.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:36 am

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New haven america wrote:Nutting is genocide.

Father forgive me for I have sinned. Repeatedly. At least twice or thrice a day. I don't intend to stop but I just wanted to get it out of my system.

ffs can you people please get it right.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:09 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:American Pol-Thread 8: Upper class guy condemns other ppl's capitalism.

I like it, I second your post.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:26 am

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If they had the balls and the brains they could outlaw congress and POTUS as institutions tomorrow and rule by decree.


No they cannot. This is pure nonsense.


So if they wanted to they could just say two branches of the government just no longer exist?
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