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by Praeceps » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:01 pm
by Thousand Branches » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:18 pm
Praeceps wrote:A resolution praising the author of SC#284? Let's not and say we did.
by Praeceps » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:31 pm
by Thousand Branches » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:35 pm
Praeceps wrote:Thousand Branches wrote:Tbf, the point of the resolution isn’t exactly to praise the authors, although it is mentioned that they’ve provided good examples.
I'm aware of the point of the resolution; I'm pointing out a problematic phrase given one of your examples which makes this proposal a non-starter for me.
by Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:54 pm
Praeceps wrote:A resolution praising the author of SC#284? Let's not and say we did.
Alger wrote:if you have egoquotes in your signature, touch grass
by Praeceps » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:26 pm
by Thousand Branches » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:35 pm
Praeceps wrote:Whoops. 46 is the problematic author. Not Lenly. Sorry!
by Guess and Check » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:43 am
by WayNeacTia » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:55 am
Thousand Branches wrote:Praeceps wrote:Whoops. 46 is the problematic author. Not Lenly. Sorry!
Ohhhh okay that actually does make more sense. Hmm if I had a better example for NSG I’d probably use it but I’m relatively sure one does not exist. I could also just say no NSG but I don’t disagree with Sedge that it’s a good community to include. Sometimes I think it goes beyond people associated with a proposal for the greater good of the WA. When there are limited examples that only proves further my point that those communities need further representation and I’m wondering if mentioning someone universally disliked matters as much if I can work towards representation of another community. Perhaps I am wrong but I’ll think on it for sure. I’d love further opinions on it as well
RiderSyl wrote:You'd really think that defenders would communicate with each other about this. I know they're not a hivemind, but at least some level of PR skill would keep Quebecshire and Quebecshire from publically contradicting eac
wait
by Thousand Branches » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:07 am
Comfed wrote:I don’t think “Commend The Cat-Tribe” is very well written in the first place.
by Unibot III » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:24 am
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Thousand Branches » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:34 am
Unibot III wrote:Why don’t you just write the resolution in a way that doesn’t reference specific resolutions? It seems like you could easily modify the current draft to do so.
That way you don’t have people judging the categories based off the examples available.
(*sternly eyes Comfed’s criticism*: Sedge made it a bitch to write ).
by Astrobolt » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:06 am
by Unibot III » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:33 pm
Thousand Branches wrote:Unibot III wrote:Why don’t you just write the resolution in a way that doesn’t reference specific resolutions? It seems like you could easily modify the current draft to do so.
That way you don’t have people judging the categories based off the examples available.
(*sternly eyes Comfed’s criticism*: Sedge made it a bitch to write ).
I probably could, but I think it would weaken the product of the resolution in doing so. The resolutions provided are acting as both a very good explanation of the communities I’m referring to and as good resolutions to keep in mind when thinking about how the WA has addressed its diverse communities in the past. I also think the lack of many examples for a lot of communities actually helps my point because it proves that we need to make more and better examples in the future. I’d be very wary to remove the meat and vegetables of what I think is a pretty solid resolution. If one mention of a resolution associated with Unibot (not even a direct mention in any way) is downing a resolution that otherwise has had nearly unanimous support from every individual I’ve spoken to, perhaps that is, in some ways, a massive over-reaction
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Praeceps » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:21 pm
Thousand Branches wrote:Praeceps wrote:Whoops. 46 is the problematic author. Not Lenly. Sorry!
Ohhhh okay that actually does make more sense. Hmm if I had a better example for NSG I’d probably use it but I’m relatively sure one does not exist. I could also just say no NSG but I don’t disagree with Sedge that it’s a good community to include. Sometimes I think it goes beyond people associated with a proposal for the greater good of the WA. When there are limited examples that only proves further my point that those communities need further representation and I’m wondering if mentioning someone universally disliked matters as much if I can work towards representation of another community. Perhaps I am wrong but I’ll think on it for sure. I’d love further opinions on it as well
by Thousand Branches » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:27 pm
Praeceps wrote:Thousand Branches wrote:Ohhhh okay that actually does make more sense. Hmm if I had a better example for NSG I’d probably use it but I’m relatively sure one does not exist. I could also just say no NSG but I don’t disagree with Sedge that it’s a good community to include. Sometimes I think it goes beyond people associated with a proposal for the greater good of the WA. When there are limited examples that only proves further my point that those communities need further representation and I’m wondering if mentioning someone universally disliked matters as much if I can work towards representation of another community. Perhaps I am wrong but I’ll think on it for sure. I’d love further opinions on it as well
You don't necessarily have to cite one resolution for NSG, not necessary to name a specific example to encourage further resolutions in that area. Other options include changing the phrase praising authors.
I'll certainly do my best to convince TNP to vote against based on the singular concern that I have raised.
Side note, in my opinion, I don't recommend taking advice from the author of SC#46, that's probably not helping your case either.
by Tinhampton » Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:51 am
Thousand Branches wrote:Hereby advocates that the Security Council and all its authors will...
by Common Territories » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:58 am
Lenlyvit wrote:Unibot III wrote:
To be blunt, the proximity to a GCR delegacy seat dictates the likelihood of being commended, and follows generally in this order:
1. Long serving GCR delegates, the shittier the better.
2. Aspiring GCR delegates. If you’ve farted in a bath tub in TNP, somewhere someone is writing a resolution in your honour.
3. GCR politicians moonlighting as WA Authors, Issue Players, Roleplayers, or Defenders
4. Sycophantic WA Authors whose success depends on their relationship to GCR voting blocs
5. UCR politicians in regions allied to GCR regions
6. Defenders who have supported a liberation of a GCR
….
16. Roleplayers in regions that GCR officials vaguely recognize the name of from the NS World Fair
17. Gholgoth?
18. Some weird Warzone stuff
19. NS Sports
20. NS General
Not really sure where I fall into those categories . TECT I don't think falls into any.
by Thousand Branches » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:01 am
Common Territories wrote:Lenlyvit wrote:Not really sure where I fall into those categories . TECT I don't think falls into any.
Well I sorta fill the mark for 6, I do for 16, probably 17, and im pretty sure 18. I was a UDL member for a while and did a number of defenses and liberations, though the only one I remember off hand was a place called Iran something we fought over quite a bit. I wasn't anything big there, just thought I had a cool ass latin motto and that's it lol. As for RP stuff, I've been told my name gets around quite a bit (both good and bad), but I honestly wouldn't know how true that is outside what I hear or see while browsing around. I've seen plenty of GCR people know me or heard of me there for example. Pretty sure I've sold tanks to at least 20 different Stalins in the Pacific for example lol. Since I was in the recent symposium, im for sure recognized by at least one random dude in the bleachers I suppose. If im remembered outside that both cheeks are rosy red with humility. Outside that, I had some connections with Gholgoth in the past through some members - fought on their side for that one world war too. But honestly I feel like I only got a commendation because of an wonderful author and the fact im addicted to coming back to this site like a kid addicted to their new phone lol.
by Unibot III » Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:29 am
Praeceps wrote:Side note, in my opinion, I don't recommend taking advice from the author of SC#46, that's probably not helping your case either.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Thousand Branches » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:13 am
by Thousand Branches » Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:38 am
by Common Territories » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:05 am
Thousand Branches wrote:Common Territories wrote:Well I sorta fill the mark for 6, I do for 16, probably 17, and im pretty sure 18. I was a UDL member for a while and did a number of defenses and liberations, though the only one I remember off hand was a place called Iran something we fought over quite a bit. I wasn't anything big there, just thought I had a cool ass latin motto and that's it lol. As for RP stuff, I've been told my name gets around quite a bit (both good and bad), but I honestly wouldn't know how true that is outside what I hear or see while browsing around. I've seen plenty of GCR people know me or heard of me there for example. Pretty sure I've sold tanks to at least 20 different Stalins in the Pacific for example lol. Since I was in the recent symposium, im for sure recognized by at least one random dude in the bleachers I suppose. If im remembered outside that both cheeks are rosy red with humility. Outside that, I had some connections with Gholgoth in the past through some members - fought on their side for that one world war too. But honestly I feel like I only got a commendation because of an wonderful author and the fact im addicted to coming back to this site like a kid addicted to their new phone lol.
Curious, I included your specific commend because I really like the style and the writing of the resolution. However, as a RPer yourself, if you had a resolution you think better embodied the community, I’d love your suggestions ^-^Tinhampton wrote:I know that "advocates" is only here to avoid legality concerns but it makes your last clause sound a bit... off, for want of a more formal word
Fair enough, switched it to “declares” to be on that declaration theme (and mostly cuz it sounds a lot better).
by Thousand Branches » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:34 am
Common Territories wrote:-snip-
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