by San Laurenz » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:52 pm
by Steelfeather Rapture 1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:03 pm
by San Laurenz » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:57 pm
Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:I tend to find that kind of advertising misandristic, personally. I call it the "sexbot male" memeplex: it reduces all male motives to sex. Imagine how misogynistic we'd think products were if they reduced all FEMALE motives to sex! It's the same for the one as for the other, I think.
Think about it like this: that kind of advertising literally reduces men to sex objects. It doesn't reduce women to sex objects, it reduces men that way. It's like saying men want to go into heat and draw women to them by their pheromones.
by Steelfeather Rapture 1 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:43 pm
San Laurenz wrote:I just found it a good subject to write an issue on, because it seems like something that would make a feminist group mad. And plus, I don't think a male rights group would be against that type of marketing. Is there anything you would like to say on the issue's writing?
by San Laurenz » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:20 am
Steelfeather Rapture 1 wrote:
I do rather dislike that kind of advertising myself. I stand on the misandry point, as a rare example of a sexually abused AMAB (Assigned Male At Birth) individual who was treated as very much a sexually predatory male wanting attention... but I'm an asexual and I was glad when people spreading a nasty rumor caused that attention to be withdrawn from me. I've experienced being sexually objectified and as a formerly active roleplayer who had many characters over years I've experienced objectification in both male-presenting and female-presenting circumstances. Products that try to simplify male motives down to sex strike me as sexually objectifying men. I'm kind of sad that you don't like the idea of seeing who would click a button opposing Axe for that quixotic rebuttal, because I'd be rather curious how well that exit gate would work in the NationStates statplayer cloud... especially if it actually used a line about men who use the product acting like they wish they could go into heat.
If that means I don't have anything to say on the issue's writing, then I guess I don't.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:16 am
San Laurenz wrote:This is my first time making an issue. Hope y'all like it!
Description: Recently, personal products giant Duolever has been under fire for marketing its Pickaxe line of deodorants, body washes, and shampoos for men claiming that it will "make women want them" and "turn them into a ladies magnet". A group of people stand in your office with comments on the issue.
Option 1: "This simply cannot stand!" says [@RANDOMFEMALENAME], leader of the feminist activist group Women Hating Injustices, No Exceptions, or WHINE for short.
Outcome: Women's shower gel brands are under fire for gender appropriation.
Option 2: "Bah, this old bat doesn't know what she's saying." says [@RANDOMMALENAME], Duolever's marketing director. "We sell personal care products for men. So we market to men. It's only natural we sell them their desires. It just makes sense! You should let companies market to people however they want. A freer market is the best market, I always say."
Outcome: Companies are legally allowed to put racial slurs on their packaging.
Option 3: "This crackpot buffoon is the problem!" says male rights activist [@RANDOMMALENAME]. "It isn't women that are being objectified here, it's men! They treat us like our only goal is sex, and that's all we care about. I implore you to fix this on behalf of all men, and pay more attention to the struggles men face!"
Outcome: Citizens are getting divorced over arguments over which gender has it worse.
Option 4: "Now, I think that I might have the perfect solution to all this!" says [@RANDOMFEMALENAME], mayor of [@CAPITALCITY] and mother of two. "My son uses this Pickaxe stuff all the time, and I think that it smells real nice. So what if we allow gender-specific and sexual marketing, except for both genders. Everyone wins!"
Outcome: Personal product corporations are selling the same product in two different packages, one for men and one for women.
Option 5: "Hey man, these body washes and shampoos, are like, totally uncool". Says local hippie [@RANDOMNAME]. "They're like, full of chemicals, and the factories like, destroy trees and harm mother nature. We should totally ban these synthetic atrocities from stores, and only allow pure soaps made of natural ingredients to be sold!"
Outcome: Yogurt and flax seed are more common in soaps than in food.
by Candlewhisper Archive » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:16 am
by San Laurenz » Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:00 pm
by SherpDaWerp » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:04 am
San Laurenz wrote:Did the way to submit issues change? It used to be in the tab where issues appear and I can't seem to find the button anymore? Bit of a dumb question, but I have no idea.
by Outer Sparta » Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:46 am
by Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:11 am
by San Laurenz » Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:49 pm
Outer Sparta wrote:I would still advise you to work on it to get some more feedback. Sometimes, it takes a long while to get feedback and stuff.
by Outer Sparta » Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:43 pm
by Millenhaal » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:25 am
by Candensia » Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:01 pm
Millenhaal wrote:Waiting for feedback on issues is clearly an arduous process. Mostly I've been waiting for my population count to tick up so I can submit it, but if anyone has any way they think this should be polished, do let me know.
Outcome: this is a really good joke
The Free Joy State wrote:Time spent working on writing skills -- even if the draft doesn't work -- is never wasted.
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