RiderSyl wrote:I don't think anyone in the Wardens has much room to bitch about raider conduct when you're their First Warden.
It will always amuse me how raiders and raider-aligned people play themselves up as the edgy big bads, destroying innocent regions for fun, but then shrink and play victim when Tim says one thing about them that isn't sunshine and rainbows.
RiderSyl wrote:What's obnoxious is you and your compatriots' attitudes. They banjected a native that defenders were piling on. "Resorting to heinous tactics"? God, give us a fucking break.
This is a political simulation. We are talking in-character about a battle that occurred. Damn right, heinous tactics. You can bet your life's savings every LDF recruit between now and the day I retire will know exactly what happened to Trovons on November 6th 2021 at 12:13:38 PM. We won't soon forget.
A Bloodred Moon wrote:It’s pretty obvious that we don’t consider ejecting a native delegate actively working to oppose us as ‘too far’, though. You believe his status as a native resident gives him special privileges - we don’t, especially not when he’s actively participating with defenders.
Fun fact, LDF command doesn't give an ounce of a damn what LWU thinks is or isn't too far.
Under no circumstance involving a non-problematic region is it justifiable to eject a native from their own region, the entire concept of self-determination in this case rests on the idea that the native userite has the imperative to protect their own home and community. This is not voided by arbitrary and illogical invaders attempting to destroy the natives' work and homes for their own amusement or reputation.
A Bloodred Moon wrote:You seem to have this weird assumption we agree with or are under any obligation to adhere to your moral standards, and would therefore seek to make excuses for banjecting a native. But we don’t, and we aren’t. You might consider saying hello on an occupied region’s RMB to be a crime, but to us, the term “regional destruction” implies... well, an attempt to destroy the region. We made no such attempt - whether we would have had we stayed, who knows, and who cares? We ejected a hostile combatant, and the move proved succesful, both in winning us time and watching you lose your mind over it. Certainly a tactic to keep in mind next time around.
My moral standards do not bind you, sure. But they are the guiding philosophy that has been developed alongside an organization that supplied 15 unique members to the liberation of Trovons, mind you, an organization that did not exist in the slightest one year ago today. I will continue to recruit, train, and bring liberations to ensure that your organization stays as dependent on others as possible. It's worked damn well so far for the defender faction.
And yes, obnoxious bird roleplay on the message board is nothing more than weird vandalism of the region.
I've said this before but the native was only a "hostile combatant" because you made him be one. You attacked the region and then when the native defended his own home and project, smacked him down and cried that he was a combatant. The onus of that is on you, and like I said to Syl - we will not soon forget.
No disagreeing with the hivemind in public. Gotta do that in private so they can pretend your input matters.
