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Your thoughts on pistol braces? (See top of OP for information)

Ban modern sporting rifles
114
15%
Pistol braces should be outlawed and current restrictions on SBRs remain in place
86
11%
Pistol braces should be outlawed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
30
4%
Pistol braces should be allowed and current restrictions on SBRs should remain
102
13%
Pistol braces should be allowed but current restrictions on SBRs should be removed
454
58%
 
Total votes : 786

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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:40 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:NBC Calls Secret Service On Gun Sites Selling “Let’s Go Brandon” Products :rofl:
Good god, the amount of sand in vagina in such a move.

If this had been about trump shitbricks such as ken dilanian wouldn't have an issue.

No, he did it to try and chill free speech about an unpopular president because he likes the retard that is currently shitting his pants at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Apt. 1A.

We should probably report anyone selling anti-Trump bumper stickers, because clearly that's threatening a vehicle ramming attack... :roll:

Heh.

Also to point out, good thing those lowers from PSA aren't "assault rifles" nbc guy is a dipshit and most likely was raised by dipshits.
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Gun control advocates suffer from psychological projection -“defending themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others." ; “State Law cannot authorize the violation of Federal Rights”-Justice Alito
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:46 pm

NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:52 pm

Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)


I could see some peeps buying it for the novelty of it. Hell I've got a couple of "Let's Go Brandon" t-shirts. I myself were to get something done I like the look of the old time scroll work.
Aside from that, how this raises to the level of a threat is such a stretch even Stretch Armstrong® cannot achieve.
White privilege is the belief that white people are responsible for the acts of their ancestors by people who accept no responsibility for the acts of their children.
Gun control advocates suffer from psychological projection -“defending themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others." ; “State Law cannot authorize the violation of Federal Rights”-Justice Alito
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth. -Colion Noir
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger). Proud American infidel since the 1970s; FUCK islam, it is incompatible with the US Constitution

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Postby Hukhalia » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:10 pm

Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:15 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p

"Break The Chains?" :D

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Postby Hukhalia » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:21 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p

"Break The Chains?" :D

M-Maybe both?
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:29 pm

Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

You mean "This Machine"?
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Postby Novus America » Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:42 pm

Been too busy with RL to do much here, but just have to say Semper Fi Winsome Sears, Semper Fi.

(This relates to what we discussed earlier, gun rights advocates need to have more diversity to the movement, gun grabbers trying to take guns away from women and African Americans will be their end. Woman and African Americans (-(as well as people of race, ethnicity, gender or orientation) should and indeed must stand up for their rights to self defense and firearms ownership. We are all in this together regardless of our race, gender, orientation or religion. And if we stand together we are unstoppable.)
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Postby Lady Victory » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:34 am

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

You mean "This Machine"?


Pretty much. 8)
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:20 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:FYI- the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association V. Bruen at the Supreme Court starts tomorrow 11/3 here is a link to a live audio feed if you want to hear the arguments.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

Cody Wisniewski arguing before the supreme court dropped the "strict scrutiny" bomb in regards to enumerated rights instead of courts applying the intermediate scrutiny, especially in regards to the 2nd Amendment.
Sotomayer kept arguing that history supports restricting concealed carry, which is bullshit.
She also brings up the old “rights are subject to social utility” and need canard
Bryer being his typical dipshit self, made the argument that more concealed carry means more shootings bullshit.
Barbara Underwood for the State
 of New York arguing in favor of ny's 100yr old bullshit law, is a bumbling idiot and sounds very ignorant of constitutional and case law.
Spends more time stammering than answering questions, when she does answer its the basic reply of well "just because" guns are deemed offensive weapons position nonsense.
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White privilege is the belief that white people are responsible for the acts of their ancestors by people who accept no responsibility for the acts of their children.
Gun control advocates suffer from psychological projection -“defending themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others." ; “State Law cannot authorize the violation of Federal Rights”-Justice Alito
Gun control is what you talk about when you don't want to talk about the truth. -Colion Noir
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger). Proud American infidel since the 1970s; FUCK islam, it is incompatible with the US Constitution

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Nov 03, 2021 10:28 am

Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

I’d replace the overly specific “fascists” with the much broader term “tyrants”. A tyrant is a tyrant, regardless of their ideology.
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:02 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p


Unfortunately, far too many of the world's workers support taking away guns from other workers.

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Postby The V I C » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:11 pm

Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)


I'd probably write Fuck Fascism before Fascism fucks you or Not here to be a hero. I own this to remain here.
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Postby The V I C » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:12 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p


Unfortunately, far too many of the world's workers support taking away guns from other workers.


Some do, and some don't. I think everyone ought to support owning guns both to defend their rights from the government and to defend themselves from other threats, be it criminals, terrorists or wild animals.
Lebanese Left. She/her. Agnostic maybe, idk, I don't think about religion.

things i like: Britpop, progressivism, women's rights, antiracism, antifascism, climate action, Bernie Sanders, the squad, Gun ownership, John Brown, The lost empire of Rome

Things I don't like: Fascism, racialism, sectarianism, the Israeli government as it currently operates, Jihadism, sexism, homophobia, Islamaphobia, Family Guy, the war on drugs.

Elect no one anywhere at all in 2024.

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Postby Galactic Transylvania » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:18 pm

Would "STREET SWEEPER" be a cringe thing to engrave on an AR? If so how cringe?
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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:19 pm

Galactic Transylvania wrote:Would "STREET SWEEPER" be a cringe thing to engrave on an AR? If so how cringe?


Yes, and very.

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Postby Lady Victory » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:15 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:NGL the only reason I wouldn't put "Fuck Joe Biden" on a rifle is because I'd rather write something clever or poetic on it.

Like maybe repurpose "This Machine Kills Fascists" for a more appropriate instrument than a guitar. Say an M1 Garand, perhaps. Now that would be nice to look at. ;)

I’d replace the overly specific “fascists” with the much broader term “tyrants”. A tyrant is a tyrant, regardless of their ideology.


A tyrant specifically is a ruler, though. Fascists can mean both leadership and underlings; it's therefor more flexible.

Galactic Transylvania wrote:Would "STREET SWEEPER" be a cringe thing to engrave on an AR? If so how cringe?


Yes, because everybody knows a "street sweeper" is a Tommy Gun.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:37 pm

Found this on an SRA subreddit.
CBSNewsThe New Pro-Gun Generation | CBSN Originals
Portrayals of Second Amendment activists as mostly White males openly carrying assault weapons is changing. A new episode of CBSN Originals’ Reverb series investigates how gun owners are growing more diverse as increasing numbers of Black, Latino, and other underrepresented Americans arm up out of fear for their safety.

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Postby Dylar » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:47 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Galactic Transylvania wrote:Would "STREET SWEEPER" be a cringe thing to engrave on an AR? If so how cringe?


Yes, because everybody knows a "street sweeper" is a Tommy Gun.

Ackshually, this is a Street Sweeper

The Tommy Gun is the Chicago Typewriter
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Postby Tectarea » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:52 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:While we're at it, mandatory militia service for all able-bodied men, just like the old days.


Fash moment.


Based. The real answer.

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Postby Galactic Transylvania » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:01 pm

Dylar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:


Yes, because everybody knows a "street sweeper" is a Tommy Gun.

Ackshually, this is a Street Sweeper

The Tommy Gun is the Chicago Typewriter


Ahh yes the shotgun specifically banned in the Assault Weapons Ban because it showed up in movies and looked 'scary' even though it was actually pretty much garbage.
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Postby Hukhalia » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:05 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:what about "Workers of the World, Unite?" :p


Unfortunately, far too many of the world's workers support taking away guns from other workers.

Then consider such an inscription to be a start. :)
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:18 pm

Hukhalia wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
Unfortunately, far too many of the world's workers support taking away guns from other workers.

Then consider such an inscription to be a start. :)


That seems an odd place to start.

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Postby Hukhalia » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:19 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Hukhalia wrote:Then consider such an inscription to be a start. :)


That seems an odd place to start.

oh shut up let me be figurative for a change smh
"It was this alone that drew so many Europeans to colonial North America: the dream in the settler mind of each man becoming a petty lord of his own land. Thus, the tradition of individualism and egalitarianism in America was rooted in the poisoned concept of equal privileges for a new nation of European conquerors." J. Sakai

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Postby Lady Victory » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 pm

Genivaria wrote:Found this on an SRA subreddit.
CBSNewsThe New Pro-Gun Generation | CBSN Originals
Portrayals of Second Amendment activists as mostly White males openly carrying assault weapons is changing. A new episode of CBSN Originals’ Reverb series investigates how gun owners are growing more diverse as increasing numbers of Black, Latino, and other underrepresented Americans arm up out of fear for their safety.


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Dylar wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:


Yes, because everybody knows a "street sweeper" is a Tommy Gun.

Ackshually, this is a Street Sweeper

The Tommy Gun is the Chicago Typewriter


I reject your facts and substitute them with my opinion.
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