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The ban on gamers and femboys

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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:03 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
You worry far too much about ingratiating yourself to a government that doesn't like you and wants you gone.


I just want to be on the right side of the law. Some of these laws aren’t exactly very clear.


I'm pretty sure that's the point my guy.

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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:06 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
New haven america wrote:Your worries are unfounded because unless you commit a felony level offense they'll just deport you, seeing as how you don't and can't hold Chinese citizenship.


Thanks for the heads up.

I mean, given Xi's mood he might just deport you anyway, so...
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:42 am

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Gallia- wrote:
You're also not 15 years old and needing to do homework every weekend, so yeah.

The point of the law is to get children focused on actually important things like education and schooling, and interacting with the tangible, physical reality, instead of wasting time doing frivolous feel-good activities. It's akin to banning finance capitalism and focusing on getting people making houses or something instead, writ small. But the PRC is likely to do that in the future given that it wants to bring back Bretton-Woods and Keynesian economics.

The morality guidelines are just saying that players of games, and game designers, should be focused on killing Nazis, not asking whether or not the Nazis had a moral right to exist or being able to take the side of the Nazis.

I mean its one thing when a parent tells you this. Its another when a government uses authoritarian surveillance to enforce their unquestioned will.


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Postby Dogmeat » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:07 am

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:This stuff worries me from time to time because I really want to be on the right side of all these laws when they get applied to the SAR. Do you think I’ll be okay?


You worry far too much about ingratiating yourself to a government that doesn't like you and wants you gone.

"Wants him gone" assumes he even lives there in the first place.

Which I don't.
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Postby Herador » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:35 am

Gallia- wrote:People on NSG actually engage substantially in cryptocurrency exchanges, game development, and/or are highly wealthied femboy streamers? Powerful, I assumed everyone who posted on it was a NEET.

I've been known to pay out a generous sum of ETH for auture femboy videogames from time to time
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Postby Page » Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:52 am

Gallia- wrote:
The point of the law is to get children focused on actually important things like education and schooling, and interacting with the tangible, physical reality, instead of wasting time doing frivolous feel-good activities. It's akin to banning finance capitalism and focusing on getting people making houses or something instead, writ small. But the PRC is likely to do that in the future given that it wants to bring back Bretton-Woods and Keynesian economics.


Enjoying life is important. This notion that we must always be producing is a disease. If in conjunction with this video game ban, China was building parkour playgrounds, laser tag or paintball places, concert halls, skate parks, and the like for the youth, it wouldn't be so bad (though it would still be wrong).

Kids already go to school for an equivalent amount of hours as most adults' jobs, and most of them have hours of homework, chores to do, often times extracirricular activities they aren't interested in forced on them by their parents, what about just having fun? What about pretend swordfights with sticks?

Let kids have fun. Let adults have fun. Why do we have to spend every waking hour of our lives making more and more and more for the economy? Isn't the point of progress to make our lives easier? If we've gone from hunter-gatherers to people with airplanes, cellphones, air conditioning, antibiotics, and all the wonders of civilization but we're just as stressed and distressed as ever, what the hell was any of it for?
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Postby The Imperium man » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:42 pm

Sometimes , having fun is not necessarily immoral if they are harmless in certain areas. Firstly , let's examine at their behaviours and thoughts are generally harmless when it comes to gaming and I know it's going to be harm and toxic unless they achieved self-discipline and productive. Gamers are sometimes highly ambitious and competitive and that's why it triggers a lot of commoners and false actors in CCP. Boomers shall never oppressed us and let us down in mom's basement. Their opinions are largely insignificant and infantile. It should be completely discarded.

No offensive arguments , but my bad English.

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Postby Goblinstad » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:03 pm

The Imperium man wrote:Sometimes , having fun is not necessarily immoral if they are harmless in certain areas. Firstly , let's examine at their behaviours and thoughts are generally harmless when it comes to gaming and I know it's going to be harm and toxic unless they achieved self-discipline and productive. Gamers are sometimes highly ambitious and competitive and that's why it triggers a lot of commoners and false actors in CCP. Boomers shall never oppressed us and let us down in mom's basement. Their opinions are largely insignificant and infantile. It should be completely discarded.

No offensive arguments , but my bad English.

imo what's immoral is what don't benefits me
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Postby The H Corporation » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:21 pm

The Imperium man wrote:Sometimes , having fun is not necessarily immoral if they are harmless in certain areas. Firstly , let's examine at their behaviours and thoughts are generally harmless when it comes to gaming and I know it's going to be harm and toxic unless they achieved self-discipline and productive. Gamers are sometimes highly ambitious and competitive and that's why it triggers a lot of commoners and false actors in CCP. Boomers shall never oppressed us and let us down in mom's basement. Their opinions are largely insignificant and infantile. It should be completely discarded.

No offensive arguments , but my bad English.

Uuhh...

What?
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Postby The Imperium man » Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:57 pm

The H Corporation wrote:
The Imperium man wrote:Sometimes , having fun is not necessarily immoral if they are harmless in certain areas. Firstly , let's examine at their behaviours and thoughts are generally harmless when it comes to gaming and I know it's going to be harm and toxic unless they achieved self-discipline and productive. Gamers are sometimes highly ambitious and competitive and that's why it triggers a lot of commoners and false actors in CCP. Boomers shall never oppressed us and let us down in mom's basement. Their opinions are largely insignificant and infantile. It should be completely discarded.

No offensive arguments , but my bad English.

Uuhh...

What?


Yeah , my English is bad

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:15 pm

The Imperium man wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:Uuhh...

What?


Yeah , my English is bad


Sadly, I cannot make out if you are siding with the "boomers" or with "the gamers".
I assume the latter ?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:22 pm

Dogmeat wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
You worry far too much about ingratiating yourself to a government that doesn't like you and wants you gone.

"Wants him gone" assumes he even lives there in the first place.

Which I don't.


I live in Hong Kong. I would like to stay.

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Postby Page » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:25 am

The Imperium man wrote:Sometimes , having fun is not necessarily immoral if they are harmless in certain areas. Firstly , let's examine at their behaviours and thoughts are generally harmless when it comes to gaming and I know it's going to be harm and toxic unless they achieved self-discipline and productive. Gamers are sometimes highly ambitious and competitive and that's why it triggers a lot of commoners and false actors in CCP. Boomers shall never oppressed us and let us down in mom's basement. Their opinions are largely insignificant and infantile. It should be completely discarded.

No offensive arguments , but my bad English.


Even with English not being your native language, I'm going to assume your opening sentence does reflect what you are trying to say, and I'm going to have to dissect because the wording you chose is quite telling.

If I'm reading a sentence that has the words "not necessarily immoral if...", I expect the subject of that sentence to be something quite serious. "Killing is not necessarily immoral if..." and then one would list off situations in which it is perhaps morally acceptable to kill, like in defense of innocent people from those who would harm them.

But killing is something which we generally assume that something immoral is happening. But if I'm reading a sentence about the morals of having fun, I'd more so expect that sentence to be written "Having fun is only immoral if..."

This isn't about your English because I have seen native English speakers use the kind of wording you did, because they too operate on the notion that pleasure shouldn't be sought or should be treated like a dangerous thing that can destroy you if you aren't careful.

Why are we thinking this way? Why is the burden of proof on fun to prove that it is safe and moral? Shouldn't the burden of proof be on somebody who contends that fun is dangerous and immoral?

We should be building a world that best facilitates our pleasures, rather than using pleasure as a pavlovian reward to keep people motivated to keep building with no apparent goal in sight.
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Postby The Imperium man » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:45 am

I feel r*tard right now

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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:"Wants him gone" assumes he even lives there in the first place.

Which I don't.


I live in Hong Kong. I would like to stay.

I don't take your word for it.
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:17 am



Yeah we know that Ubisoft is a bad company..... Still doesn't make it right for the CCP to ban games.
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:55 am


You mean a company wants to make money? *Shock*
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:13 pm

i wish i lived in china
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Postby Holy Tedalonia » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:19 pm

Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:i wish i lived in china

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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:58 pm


No lol. Ubisoft is trash but it doesn't mean that the government should regulate how much you play.
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:18 pm

Holy Tedalonia wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:i wish i lived in china

bruh

this might blow your mind but some people would actually prefer an environment where we wouldn't have to see or think about femboys and gamers
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:39 pm

Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:
Holy Tedalonia wrote:bruh

this might blow your mind but some people would actually prefer an environment where we wouldn't have to see or think about femboys and gamers

You only have to deal with 30 malignant cancer growths by age 12. Sounds fun.
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