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Postby Notodonta ziczac » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:28 am

Dystopianus wrote:
Mosasauria wrote:The recent attack was an unjustified military action against civilians. Not even China can stand up for that.
Not sure about that to be honest. Why would NK attack civillians?

cause kim is a fucking maniac
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Postby Dystopianus » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:35 am

Notodonta ziczac wrote:
Dystopianus wrote:Not sure about that to be honest. Why would NK attack civillians?

cause kim is a fucking maniac
Yeah right. Source? :roll:

Such a statement is biased against NK, and does not prove or support any facts. Try again.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:34 am

Dystopianus wrote:
Notodonta ziczac wrote:cause kim is a fucking maniac
Yeah right. Source? :roll:

Such a statement is biased against NK, and does not prove or support any facts. Try again.

I did see a report on an artillery attack on SK island that had only civilians on it on CNN and FOX, and even MSBC. Although I would not put above Kimmie to just randomly make an attack.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:59 am

Did Miss Palin not say that the US would stand by its Northern Korean allies ? ;)
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Postby Wesibaden » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:04 am

Nope even if they did they will get their ass handed to themselves.
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Postby Wesibaden » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:06 am

Dystopianus wrote:
Notodonta ziczac wrote:cause kim is a fucking maniac
Yeah right. Source? :roll:

Such a statement is biased against NK, and does not prove or support any facts. Try again.

North Korea is unstable because Kim is an unstable and most Evil dictator on the planet.
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Postby Mosasauria » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:07 am

North Korea is dead. In less than a year, it will be a territory of South Korea.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:07 am

Wesibaden wrote:Nope even if they did they will get their ass handed to themselves.


By whom ?
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Postby Wesibaden » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:08 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Wesibaden wrote:Nope even if they did they will get their ass handed to themselves.


By whom ?

US Military Power > Chinese piece of shit toy guns
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Postby Hypparchia » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:10 am

Wesibaden wrote:North Korea is unstable because Kim is an unstable and most Evil dictator on the planet.
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US Military Power > Chinese piece of shit toy guns


ROFL.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:19 am

Wesibaden wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
By whom ?

US Military Power > Chinese piece of shit toy guns


Not really, no. Also note China has a huge logistics advantage over the USA if a war needs to be fought there.
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Postby Unicario » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:20 am

Andaricus wrote:You want My Opinion? We're on the verge of Korean War 2. (Looks like the events in that up coming video game Homefront aren't going to take place, aleast not if We take out kim jong ill).


HAHAHAHA

Homefront cannot exist. At all.

A. North Korea could NOT forcibly reunite Korea, and then go and seize the entire Eastern Pacific (minus China)
B. The United States is too full of crazy people and patriots to shatter like that.
C. The U.S. dollar cannot tank that easily. The U.S. dollar is one of the most important currencies to date. If America's dollar dies, the rest of the world follows suit. EVEN CHINA.
D. North Korea has a mere 24million people, and still uses old Soviet-era weaponry. Contrasting to South Korea, who have F-16 fighters, and have a population of 48 million, (about twice as much), and have the United States military there with them. Superpower.

Homefront is simply "shock and awe", "were all gonna die" kinda thing. The dude who wrote it, also made Red Dawn, and impossible story, where the Soviet Union, in 1984, manages to stop the demise of communism (which began after the invasion of Afghanistan in 1979), spreads their influence through out Asia and South/Central America. It also says that in 1984, the United States is invaded by Cuba (Not happening. Cuba would get SQUASHED), Communist Mexico (Mexico? Too weak, not enough economical power), and Soviet Russia (feasible at the time, but again, if that happened, the world would blow up.)

Homefront and Red Dawn were written by the dude who wrote Apocalypse Now.

Needless to say, his theories are quite impossible.
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Postby Arkinesia » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:24 am

Velgrae wrote:
Globexanter wrote:The Chinese will not defend the North Koreans, they may even help attack them.

umadbro?

China isn't going to sit around and see North Korea, a country at it's borders get fucked up by Americans, whom China dislikes, but still trades with for money. There's a reason China is still called the People's Republic, study China more. (Yes I know China is becoming very Capitalist.)

You're the confused one here. China is an authoritarian capitalist state, and they would be very happy to not have to deal with the DPRK anymore.
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Postby Unicario » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:30 am

Shedding some light.
As I've said, Asian politics is a very delicate matter.
There's one thing that rings true. Kimu Jon'iru wa bakadesu. (Kim Jong-Il is an idiot.)

The fact being, North Korea is on their own. China is not willing to shatter a economic connection between the Americans and themselves, since China and America need each other to prosper.

So, basically, it's either neutrality, or joining the American side.

They'll probably choose the latter.
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Postby Chrobalta » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:53 am

Of course China will defend North Korea. It has integral strategic interests that necessitate the preservation of the North Korean state.
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Postby Chrobalta » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:56 am

Mosasauria wrote:
Dystopianus wrote:Yeah right. Source? :roll:

Such a statement is biased against NK, and does not prove or support any facts. Try again.

I did see a report on an artillery attack on SK island that had only civilians on it on CNN and FOX, and even MSBC. Although I would not put above Kimmie to just randomly make an attack.

If there were only civilians on it, then how did two South Korean marines die?

The attack was well calculated, not random, North Korea wants to bring the United States and South Korea back to the negotiating table, so it needs their attention.
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Postby Third Mexican Empire » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:29 am

Wesibaden wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
By whom ?

US Military Power > Chinese piece of shit toy guns

:palm:
No, just no.

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Postby Gratislavia » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:31 am

No they will put it back in its place, china is dependent on American markets and therefore not suicidal
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Postby Third Mexican Empire » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:31 am

Chrobalta wrote:Of course China will defend North Korea. It has integral strategic interests that necessitate the preservation of the North Korean state.

Like what?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:32 am

Third Mexican Empire wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:Of course China will defend North Korea. It has integral strategic interests that necessitate the preservation of the North Korean state.

Like what?


Like protecting the friends of Ms Palin ;)
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Postby Er-rath » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:33 am

Good luck when North Korea starts using nukes.

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Postby Er-rath » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:33 am

Good luck when North Korea starts using nukes.

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Postby Third Mexican Empire » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:36 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Third Mexican Empire wrote:Like what?


Like protecting the friends of Ms Palin ;)

lol

But seriously, no. The U.S. is China's biggest trading partner, which is allied with RoK. Like someone said before, War is bad for business. Especially when your client is the enemy.

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Postby The Grand World Order » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:37 am

Hellestia wrote:
The real contenders who will be assisting NK in a possible second Korean War would most likely be Burma and Iran. Possibly Cuba and Libya.



Don't forget, Venezuela signed a mutual defense agreement with the DPRK (which might even lead to the DPRK trying to proliferate lol).

it's gonna be lulzy watching Venezuela try to attack the US if KW2 breaks out
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Postby Novograd IV » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:38 am

Mosasauria wrote:
Dystopianus wrote:Yeah right. Source? :roll:

Such a statement is biased against NK, and does not prove or support any facts. Try again.

I did see a report on an artillery attack on SK island that had only civilians on it on CNN and FOX, and even MSBC. Although I would not put above Kimmie to just randomly make an attack.


Balls, BBC and reuters - 14 injured SK marines, 2 serious injuries.
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