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Mehmet Temeri
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Postby Mehmet Temeri » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:50 am

Custadia wrote:
Mehmet Temeri wrote:Literally me right now watching this thread:

Considering the essay you've written, I don't think this is you watching this thread.

Oh. Perhaps I should've added a disclaimer that it ain't just any old collection of thoughts but a collection of thoughts accumulated throughout the life of this thread. At one point, I was just watching the show, at an other I got involved and there will be more times in the future when I will just watch.

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Postby Archinstinct » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:31 pm

People accuse your community of being fascist but apart from a part of the nation name of your wa delegate, i haven't found anything yet. What embassies are people talking about, there's 645~ish embassies? And is there any more beyond this? It just seems like you're a spam region to me.
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Postby Quebecshire » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:03 pm

Archinstinct wrote:People accuse your community of being fascist but apart from a part of the nation name of your wa delegate, i haven't found anything yet. What embassies are people talking about, there's 645~ish embassies? And is there any more beyond this? It just seems like you're a spam region to me.

Hi Parx. I see you felt like talking out of your ass again.

1. "Pinochet Executionists"
2. Raxus is an RO.
3. A history of fascism aligned foreign affairs, including an alliance with Farkasfalka and some other thing I forget.
4. Previous self-acknowledging Nazi members, as acknowledged here.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:18 pm

Clearly because their WA Delegate has a trollish name like "Pinochet Executionists" means they are fascist and must be destroyed for the good of mankind.
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Postby Novey Frankia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:22 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:People accuse your community of being fascist but apart from a part of the nation name of your wa delegate, i haven't found anything yet. What embassies are people talking about, there's 645~ish embassies? And is there any more beyond this? It just seems like you're a spam region to me.

Hi Parx. I see you felt like talking out of your ass again.

1. "Pinochet Executionists"
2. Raxus is an RO.
3. A history of fascism aligned foreign affairs, including an alliance with Farkasfalka and some other thing I forget.
4. Previous self-acknowledging Nazi members, as acknowledged here.


I think it's funny that the rmb post you linked is actually defending us and pointing out that just because we had bad apples dosent mean that we are nazis lol.

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Postby Hlef » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:24 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:People accuse your community of being fascist but apart from a part of the nation name of your wa delegate, i haven't found anything yet. What embassies are people talking about, there's 645~ish embassies? And is there any more beyond this? It just seems like you're a spam region to me.

Hi Parx. I see you felt like talking out of your ass again.

1. "Pinochet Executionists"
2. Raxus is an RO.
3. A history of fascism aligned foreign affairs, including an alliance with Farkasfalka and some other thing I forget.
4. Previous self-acknowledging Nazi members, as acknowledged here.

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Quebecshire
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Postby Quebecshire » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:24 pm

Novey Frankia wrote:I think it's funny that the rmb post you linked is actually defending us and pointing out that just because we had bad apples dosent mean that we are nazis lol.

I mean, their point is mind numbingly stupid. They acknowledge that Lardyland had Nazis and then go on some nonsensical defense in which they compare a region on an internet forum to the real-world country of Sweden.

If that's your best advocate, lol.
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Postby Novey Frankia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:26 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Novey Frankia wrote:I think it's funny that the rmb post you linked is actually defending us and pointing out that just because we had bad apples dosent mean that we are nazis lol.

I mean, their point is mind numbingly stupid. They acknowledge that Lardyland had Nazis and then go on some nonsensical defense in which they compare a region on an internet forum to the real-world country of Sweden.

If that's your best advocate, lol.


The defense is truthful, though he may have had not the best example his point still stands.

The government of lardyland and the vast overwhelming majority of its members aren't and never have been nazis.

This whole thing had always been exaggerated by people who think we are annoying, hell if you just thought we were annoying then I wouldn't care, but calling us nazis ain't too kosher.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:19 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Archinstinct wrote:People accuse your community of being fascist but apart from a part of the nation name of your wa delegate, i haven't found anything yet. What embassies are people talking about, there's 645~ish embassies? And is there any more beyond this? It just seems like you're a spam region to me.

Hi Parx. I see you felt like talking out of your ass again.

1. "Pinochet Executionists"
2. Raxus is an RO.
3. A history of fascism aligned foreign affairs, including an alliance with Farkasfalka and some other thing I forget.
4. Previous self-acknowledging Nazi members, as acknowledged here.

*looms ominously* How you don't start posts with insults?

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Postby Jar Wattinree » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:26 pm

Mehmet Temeri wrote:Wait a minute... why don't we make a freakin' peace treaty?
Both parties will submit their conditions or even full drafts and if they get put together into a single document and the document will be applied irl, then the conflict is settled. And if not, we'll conflict happily ever after.

The equivalent of the United Nations making a peace treaty with the Fire Nation from Avatar? Hmm, that sounds like a very favorable idea, except one of the two parties is fictitious. Such is the state of affairs between the collective GCRs and Lardyland; the GCRs don't care about it except the occasional instance of "oh, it's one of those people again" type reaction upon seeing an embassy request.
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Postby Novey Frankia » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:33 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Mehmet Temeri wrote:Wait a minute... why don't we make a freakin' peace treaty?
Both parties will submit their conditions or even full drafts and if they get put together into a single document and the document will be applied irl, then the conflict is settled. And if not, we'll conflict happily ever after.

The equivalent of the United Nations making a peace treaty with the Fire Nation from Avatar? Hmm, that sounds like a very favorable idea, except one of the two parties is fictitious. Such is the state of affairs between the collective GCRs and Lardyland; the GCRs don't care about it except the occasional instance of "oh, it's one of those people again" type reaction upon seeing an embassy request.



Wow, you don't care? Then explain why you raid our embassy regions as soon as their founders cte just to remove their embassies with us?

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Postby Archinstinct » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:49 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:
Mehmet Temeri wrote:Wait a minute... why don't we make a freakin' peace treaty?
Both parties will submit their conditions or even full drafts and if they get put together into a single document and the document will be applied irl, then the conflict is settled. And if not, we'll conflict happily ever after.

The equivalent of the United Nations making a peace treaty with the Fire Nation from Avatar? Hmm, that sounds like a very favorable idea, except one of the two parties is fictitious. Such is the state of affairs between the collective GCRs and Lardyland; the GCRs don't care about it except the occasional instance of "oh, it's one of those people again" type reaction upon seeing an embassy request.


Oh my, Don't mention the UN! they'll send another cease and desist letter to max barry :roll:
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Postby All Wild Things » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:34 pm

Novey Frankia wrote:.
  • Minister of Culture VACANT


This surprised me. Is Lardyland culture now so high-brow that you can't find suitable candidates? ;)
I'd have thunk that this can of spam that was opened over three years ago would have a variety of biologically interesting cultures growing all over it.
Though on reflection, I don't think it's a job that I'd be able to do, so yeah, I guess it needs quite a unique personality to step into that role. I hope you find a suitable candidate soon!

I had to laugh at the first page of this thread tho. Two people got warned for spam, and neither were from Lardyland. Bonus points for the irony!
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Postby Jar Wattinree » Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:50 pm

Novey Frankia wrote:Wow, you don't care? Then explain why you raid our embassy regions as soon as their founders cte just to remove their embassies with us?

Per my educated guess, it's not so much as caring as it is your affiliated regions are a convenient training ground. That, and the "oh it's one of those people" that plays heavily into it. Y'all haven't really given a worthy reason or excuse to not have your embassy regions and your original region be raided because they are just there. I can presume that if you did give a worthy reason (or an attempted excuse) for why the various GCRs ought not to raid your regions, then maybe -- just maybe -- the raids will stop.

Then again you do have about four years worth of reasons to raid your affiliated regions, which outweighs any and all attempted overtures you might make, so I expect you have at least four more years of trying to clean up your act as a region and becoming productive nations of NS; and, I might add, doing all of that while still suffering raids. It builds character.
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Postby RiderSyl » Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:00 pm

Jar Wattinree wrote:I can presume that if you did give a worthy reason (or an attempted excuse) for why the various GCRs ought not to raid your regions, then maybe -- just maybe -- the raids will stop.

False hope, thy name is Jar. :p
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Postby Archinstinct » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:58 pm

You need to do 4 things if you want to show you're serious about being anti-fascist.

-change your delegate. That name isnt funny, it just stinks. I'd say the person doesn't deserve the delegacy if they're keeping that name, or even to remain a member in your region.
-close embassies with seriously fascist/nazi regions (like barbaria)
-start annoying nazi regions like fifth empire.
-Kick out Raxus for certain. That character is.. yeesh.

Do that and.. it'll be a start.
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Postby Doge Land » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:12 pm

As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region. I mean, they might be getting more into GP and stuff, and maybe it's changed since 2019, but it was a meme region then and it looks like it still is now. Pinochet Executionists and Captain Lard are obviously sarcastic. I know there's arguments about Lardyland being fascist and all that, but it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019) so why don't we go after the actually OOC problematic fascist regions and ignore Lardyland- because in the end, the only way you would ever be able to make Lardyland change their ways is to simply ignore them.

Lardyland isn't fascist. It's a goddamn meme region. Chill out.
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:32 pm

Doge Land wrote:As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region. I mean, they might be getting more into GP and stuff, and maybe it's changed since 2019, but it was a meme region then and it looks like it still is now. Pinochet Executionists and Captain Lard are obviously sarcastic. I know there's arguments about Lardyland being fascist and all that, but it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019) so why don't we go after the actually OOC problematic fascist regions and ignore Lardyland- because in the end, the only way you would ever be able to make Lardyland change their ways is to simply ignore them.

Lardyland isn't fascist. It's a goddamn meme region. Chill out.

How would you like to explain the fascist regional officer? When it was brought up to their MoFA in NSGP, his retort was that the person in question was inactive (as in, not that the person wasn't actually a fascist).

What about Lardyland's direct alignment with fascists in the past? "But Quebecshire, where is your proof?!"

Sources:
1. Delegate (current one, at that) of Lardyland acknowledging their alliance with Farkasfalka.
2. That same Delegate using ill-thought out defenses of the Farkasfalkan WFE to justify their alliance.
3. The same person again justifying the alliance on the basis of opposition to Antifa and socialism.

This of course is just from a quick search.

I suggest you stop talking when you clearly do not know what you are talking about.
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Postby RiderSyl » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:09 pm

Doge Land wrote:As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region.
Doge Land wrote:it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019)


lol, no. On top of what Quebecshire has shown, it's not hard to find garbage like this. They were trouble back in the day, and they're still trouble now.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you fell for their "it's just a prank, bro!" excuse, because the other explanation is that you're as bad as them.
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Postby The Python » Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:31 pm

RiderSyl wrote:
Doge Land wrote:As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region.
Doge Land wrote:it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019)


lol, no. On top of what Quebecshire has shown, it's not hard to find garbage like this. They were trouble back in the day, and they're still trouble now.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you fell for their "it's just a prank, bro!" excuse, because the other explanation is that you're as bad as them.

Not to mention the hitler quotes on the RMB, and trash like this (also completely factually inaccurate lmao), this, this and this.
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Postby Doge Land » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:38 pm

Quebecshire wrote:
Doge Land wrote:As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region. I mean, they might be getting more into GP and stuff, and maybe it's changed since 2019, but it was a meme region then and it looks like it still is now. Pinochet Executionists and Captain Lard are obviously sarcastic. I know there's arguments about Lardyland being fascist and all that, but it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019) so why don't we go after the actually OOC problematic fascist regions and ignore Lardyland- because in the end, the only way you would ever be able to make Lardyland change their ways is to simply ignore them.

Lardyland isn't fascist. It's a goddamn meme region. Chill out.

How would you like to explain the fascist regional officer? When it was brought up to their MoFA in NSGP, his retort was that the person in question was inactive (as in, not that the person wasn't actually a fascist).

What about Lardyland's direct alignment with fascists in the past? "But Quebecshire, where is your proof?!"

Sources:
1. Delegate (current one, at that) of Lardyland acknowledging their alliance with Farkasfalka.
2. That same Delegate using ill-thought out defenses of the Farkasfalkan WFE to justify their alliance.
3. The same person again justifying the alliance on the basis of opposition to Antifa and socialism.

This of course is just from a quick search.

I suggest you stop talking when you clearly do not know what you are talking about.

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RiderSyl wrote:
lol, no. On top of what Quebecshire has shown, it's not hard to find garbage like this. They were trouble back in the day, and they're still trouble now.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you fell for their "it's just a prank, bro!" excuse, because the other explanation is that you're as bad as them.

Not to mention the hitler quotes on the RMB, and trash like this (also completely factually inaccurate lmao), this, this and this.

RiderSyl wrote:
Doge Land wrote:As a former associate of Lardyland I can tell you 100% that they're just a meme region.
Doge Land wrote:it doesn't appear to be OOC problematic (and it definitely wasn't back in 2019)


lol, no. On top of what Quebecshire has shown, it's not hard to find garbage like this. They were trouble back in the day, and they're still trouble now.


I only ever participated in their discord which, if I remember, didn't really have much of the fascist aspect in it. Maybe they did have that going on in their RMB, but there could be a fascist on any rmb, it's just making sure they don't get into the government or even participate in the region in general and then dealing with them when or if possible.

Don't judge a book by its cover- there can be bad shit on an RMB but inside, normal- or at least semi-normal- stuff goes on.

RiderSyl wrote:I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you fell for their "it's just a prank, bro!" excuse, because the other explanation is that you're as bad as them.


Maybe. But I dunno. The delegate is definitely questionable and there's some bad stuff on the RMB but I mean, don't be upset if something doesn't fall exactly into what you believe is acceptable.

Anyways that's just my two cents on the stuff in this thread.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:20 pm

But why would they allow that on their RMB in the first place?

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Postby Doge Land » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:26 pm

Comfed wrote:But why would they allow that on their RMB in the first place?


Beats me. I remember last time I checked their RMB one of the candidates for their MoFA said they were going to do an open foreign policy, even with fascist regions. I forget who, but maybe they got elected in.
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Postby Quebecshire » Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:13 pm

So, to be clear, you've been given a good few sources of fascist comments, fascist alliances, and fascist regional officers...

And your stance is "don't judge a book by its cover", and that it might not fall exactly into what we deem "acceptable". Ok bud.
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Postby Doge Land » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:26 am

Quebecshire wrote:So, to be clear, you've been given a good few sources of fascist comments, fascist alliances, and fascist regional officers...

And your stance is "don't judge a book by its cover", and that it might not fall exactly into what we deem "acceptable". Ok bud.


Yeah. I had an embassy with Lardyland, so I joined its discord, and it was fine. Probably because the fascists would have been banned (by discord) if they started trying to promote their views in there. I never popped into the RMB because I never really used an RMB for discussion until, like, late-2020. I always had the belief that a region's discord server was where everything in the region went on, and the region on-site was just a connection to the discord.
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