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by Quebecshire » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:22 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Andusre » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:49 pm
HumanSanity — Today at 18:15
Yes you are a petty asshole lol
[RRA] Minskiev — Today at 03:57
I mean I'm sure Onder is a good enough actor to pull off gay zoomer scotsman
by Tinhampton » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:43 pm
by Aivintis » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:41 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Are the sanctions applied with reference to Section 1.4 in particular (or indeed any other section) of the EPSA Act?
by The Atlae Isles » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:45 pm
Tinhampton wrote:Are the sanctions applied with reference to Section 1.4 in particular (or indeed any other section) of the EPSA Act?
by Aivintis » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:48 pm
The Atlae Isles wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Are the sanctions applied with reference to Section 1.4 in particular (or indeed any other section) of the EPSA Act?
Section 1.4 is the section that says that the Delegate and the OO can run the EPSA as they see fit, so in that whenever we do things in the EPSA, 1.4 is invoked.
by Varanius » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:15 pm
Angeloid Astraea wrote:I can't think of anyone that creates controversy out of nothing better than you!
Excidium Planetis wrote:Yeah, if you could enlighten me as to why you're such an asshole, that would be great.
Koth wrote:Vara is such a dedicated hater, it's impressive
Mlakhavia wrote:Vara isn't a gameplay personality, he's a concentrated ball of spite
by Matthew the Man » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:56 pm
Varanius wrote:Oh no, I’m sure the JTF will be very hurt without….TEP
Benevolent Thomas wrote:It is fun for me to see invaders lose at something they won at for so long.
by Cormactopia Prime » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:47 am
by Sandaoguo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:03 am
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Can someone explain to me why, if what August said is so bad (I agree it is), it's okay to defend alongside the JTF but not to invade alongside the JTF?
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:13 am
Cormactopia Prime wrote:This could be asked in a couple places, but I'll just ask it here:
Can someone explain to me why, if what August said is so bad (I agree it is), it's okay to defend alongside the JTF but not to invade alongside the JTF? ...
Sandaoguo wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Can someone explain to me why, if what August said is so bad (I agree it is), it's okay to defend alongside the JTF but not to invade alongside the JTF?
Because defenderdom is back to believing the overriding objective of foreign policy is securing the participation of independent/non-aligned military forces for defense ops, everything else comes secondary.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Sandaoguo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:35 am
Quebecshire wrote:You are an armchair and your ill-informed opinions on the day-to-day operations of defending are not credible nor relevant. Please consider stopping.
by Matthew the Man » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:10 am
Benevolent Thomas wrote:It is fun for me to see invaders lose at something they won at for so long.
by Wascoitan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:24 pm
Quebecshire wrote:My perspective is that it's a different space under a Libcord umbrella. Plenty of militaries that don't get along function in there at times.
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:44 pm
Wascoitan wrote:Quebecshire wrote:My perspective is that it's a different space under a Libcord umbrella. Plenty of militaries that don't get along function in there at times.
I feel like that's different though no? as far as I am aware so far none of the military's that work together in libcord have had OOC problems as big as one of their leaders comparing another leader to doxers and fascist. just feels weird that one would be willing to work with the people whose leader compared a respected member of the GP community to some of the worst people imaginable (then as you yourself pointed out doubled down on that comparison when they were called out) just because it happens to be under the libcord umbrella. really just feels like some weird attempt to intentionally apply sanctions in a way that only damages raiding while doing no damage to defending (to be clear here I agree with not raiding with them until some sort of apology is issued, and I will be making sure to do so myself, august went way too far), and I genuinely hope that isn't what this is cause that would be a pretty major issue of putting IC above OOC imo, but it just feels like that's what you're trying to make happen here.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Wascoitan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:50 pm
Quebecshire wrote:I might reply to some other stuff later but I want to touch on this firstWascoitan wrote:I feel like that's different though no? as far as I am aware so far none of the military's that work together in libcord have had OOC problems as big as one of their leaders comparing another leader to doxers and fascist. just feels weird that one would be willing to work with the people whose leader compared a respected member of the GP community to some of the worst people imaginable (then as you yourself pointed out doubled down on that comparison when they were called out) just because it happens to be under the libcord umbrella. really just feels like some weird attempt to intentionally apply sanctions in a way that only damages raiding while doing no damage to defending (to be clear here I agree with not raiding with them until some sort of apology is issued, and I will be making sure to do so myself, august went way too far), and I genuinely hope that isn't what this is cause that would be a pretty major issue of putting IC above OOC imo, but it just feels like that's what you're trying to make happen here.
Our sanctions were based on Thaecia’s. It would be unnecessary to go beyond what Thaecia, the victims of the issue here, see as appropriate. The LDF is prepared to choose Thaecia over the JTF in full if it comes down to it. Our sanctions really aren’t any more lenient than Thaecia’s, and I doubt you’d accuse Thaecia of trying to use this situation to hurt raiding for defending’s benefit.
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:00 pm
Wascoitan wrote:while the league on the other hand only raids when it's against OOC problematic regions
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Wascoitan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:03 pm
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:07 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Wascoitan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:11 pm
Quebecshire wrote:Wascoitan wrote:is it? I genuinely thought that was your general policy, but if it isn't then please do point me to the last time you raided a non-OOC problematic region. (not trying to do a gotcha here I'm just genuinely curious)
The first thing to come to mind is that we tagged chicken nuggets with TGW and are otherwise willing to act offensively against invader regions.
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:34 pm
Wascoitan wrote:Quebecshire wrote:The first thing to come to mind is that we tagged chicken nuggets with TGW and are otherwise willing to act offensively against invader regions.
hmm, alright then I guess correction, "while the league on the other hand only raids when it's against OOC problematic regions or an invader region" feel like that doesn't really change my overall point though that the league raids so little that to only sanction JTF on offensive operations does basically nothing to JTF.
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
by Wascoitan » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:49 pm
Quebecshire wrote:Wascoitan wrote:hmm, alright then I guess correction, "while the league on the other hand only raids when it's against OOC problematic regions or an invader region" feel like that doesn't really change my overall point though that the league raids so little that to only sanction JTF on offensive operations does basically nothing to JTF.
Again, the sanctions exist to concur with Thaecia's sanctions and demands as we feel they are the rational actors here. It's to impose the same restrictions and to say "hey, the JTF isn't welcome at the things we organize anymore" - given that our prior offensive cooperation included things we put together. As specified in our statement, our sanctions will be adjusted or escalated as the situation develops if it becomes necessary. You are free to have further opinions, but that is the reality of the situation.
by Sandaoguo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:26 pm
Matthew the Man wrote:Hey glen what sorta pot are you smoking, I too would love to get involved if it makes my critical thinking comprehension drop to rock bottom and ego swell to unimaginable heights. Or at least, I think you’re smoking pot since the alternative is just a comedically bad “opinion” akin to that of a clown act at a circus.
by Quebecshire » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:56 pm
Sandaoguo wrote:I don’t know who are you to even be offended by this.
Sandaoguo wrote:But anyways, I’m genuinely curious what the sanctioners are thinking JTF’s response to this should be. JTF is being being told, “We’re so mad, we’re gonna keep defending with you.”
Sandaoguo wrote:The strategy here is difficult to understand
Sandaoguo wrote:unless the goal is to only *appear* as if JTF is being diplomatically punished, while minimizing any actual negative consequences (to defending, at least) since JTF is a source of soldiers.
Sandaoguo wrote:Come October, what will the impact on JTF be? If the day to day has not changed, then the impact was zero.
Sandaoguo wrote:If they’re already planning on raiding for the next month, having people defending against their raids is kind of baked in there.)
Sandaoguo wrote:I need enlightenment
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I founded a defender organization out of my dislike of invaders, what invading represents, and my desire to see them suffer.
Pergamon wrote:I must say, you are truly what they deserve.
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