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Postby Fedel » Sat May 08, 2021 1:12 pm

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There would be no problems at all if new works actually had to be submitted to the storygroup to ensure consistency before actually publishing their works...

But this is fine honestly. It allows me to fully free myself from this franchise. There's no reason to invest myself in a universe that isn't internally consistent.

And yet you'll still be here, acting like everything Disney does with Star Wars is some personal slight against you...


Maybe. Maybe not. What'll probably end up happening is that I note when someone is in error in this thread to prevent misinformation from spreading.

When you've invested hundreds of dollars in the franchise, yeah it stings a bit when they invalidate everything you care about. I don't expect you to understand arguments predicated on such linear logic though.
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Postby Fedel » Sat May 08, 2021 1:51 pm

I thought this article was fake when I first read it...

https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-bad-batch ... lucasfilm/

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat May 08, 2021 2:14 pm

Fedel wrote:Maybe. Maybe not. What'll probably end up happening is that I note when someone is in error in this thread to prevent misinformation from spreading.

When you've invested hundreds of dollars in the franchise, yeah it stings a bit when they invalidate everything you care about. I don't expect you to understand arguments predicated on such linear logic though.

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Postby Imperial Rifta » Sat May 08, 2021 7:56 pm

How do you guys think the Bad Batch will end? A few arcs and a finale against *insert main antagonist here*
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They admit in the first paragraph that it's not actually a retcon.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun May 09, 2021 4:00 am

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They admit in the first paragraph that it's not actually a retcon.



Plus I wouldn't trust screenrant as far as I could throw them. They are on par with IGN a lot of the time when it comes down to poor information and blatant bias. They are more interesting in sparking outrage than anything else because that gets views. But as seen it clearly works.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun May 09, 2021 7:25 am

The reality is the same as it'd always been: the only hard canon are the filmworks: The movies and shows. Every thing else is soft canon or apocryphal.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun May 09, 2021 11:16 am

Tarsonis wrote:The reality is the same as it'd always been: the only hard canon are the filmworks: The movies and shows. Every thing else is soft canon or apocryphal.


You say that but if that was the case then the original Clone Wars (2003-05) should be in there too but it isn't. And the reality is George Lucas's involvement was just a big in that as TCW, if not more considering it was leading into ROTS while he was making it.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Sun May 09, 2021 11:32 am

Imperial Rifta wrote:How do you guys think the Bad Batch will end? A few arcs and a finale against *insert main antagonist here*

I believe that the Bad Batch, Rex, Wolffe, Gregor, Omega, and perhaps the Partisans will be found by Tarkin and Wulff Yularen and there will be a big showdown somewhere.

I also think that Tarkin is going to kill or otherwise neutralize the Kaminoans. I have a feeling one side will betray the other.
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun May 09, 2021 12:39 pm

On an unrelated note has anyone else heard about the heart of the Jedi novel stuff recently?

So it was a novel which was made in 1992 but never released due to contracting issues or something along those lines. Recently, I think it was the author themselves who has made it into an unofficial paperback. And over the last month or two it has outsold all the current Disney cannon novels on Amazon. However, today Disney finally took it off. It doesn't say anything nobody already knew but I find absolutely hilarious regardless.


Unfortunately all of the sources I could find are from Star Wars themed YouTube channels.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun May 09, 2021 12:58 pm

Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:On an unrelated note has anyone else heard about the heart of the Jedi novel stuff recently?

So it was a novel which was made in 1992 but never released due to contracting issues or something along those lines. Recently, I think it was the author themselves who has made it into an unofficial paperback. And over the last month or two it has outsold all the current Disney cannon novels on Amazon. However, today Disney finally took it off. It doesn't say anything nobody already knew but I find absolutely hilarious regardless.


Unfortunately all of the sources I could find are from Star Wars themed YouTube channels.

Well i mean if its being sold as a star wars novel, even an unofficial one that was bound to cause issues that would get Disney involved. Like that just makes sense imo and should have been obvious.
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Postby Tarsonis » Sun May 09, 2021 1:03 pm

Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:The reality is the same as it'd always been: the only hard canon are the filmworks: The movies and shows. Every thing else is soft canon or apocryphal.


You say that but if that was the case then the original Clone Wars (2003-05) should be in there too but it isn't. And the reality is George Lucas's involvement was just a big in that as TCW, if not more considering it was leading into ROTS while he was making it.



Excluding CW03 was itself a correction of the Canon Lucas wanted done.

"Filoni: The way George explained it to me going in was that THE CLONE WARS micro-series was really an experiment to see what kind of audience there was for Star Wars in an animated form. There have been droids and Ewoks, but that was a long time ago. So he brought out THE CLONE WARS micro-series, and it was super action-packed and exciting and really short installments. And it proved that people wanted to see STAR WARS in a lot of different mediums. So when we into doing this, I think that, now that George is done with the prequels, he wanted to reestablish the rules a little bit more, like "Mace Windu can't take out hundreds of battle droids by himself, otherwise the arena on Geonosis would've been a wipeout; [The jedi] would've won, and there be no Clone Wars. Those are exciting installments, but we don't tie directly into them; we tie more directly into the film that preceded us, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and the one that comes after us, REVENGE OF THE SITH. We take cues from [Tartakovsky's series]. I definitely pay a big homage to them in some of the design look of it. Anakin wears an outfit that was definitely inspired by what we saw in the other CLONE WARS. But there's no direct link-up."
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Sun May 09, 2021 1:16 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:
You say that but if that was the case then the original Clone Wars (2003-05) should be in there too but it isn't. And the reality is George Lucas's involvement was just a big in that as TCW, if not more considering it was leading into ROTS while he was making it.



Excluding CW03 was itself a correction of the Canon Lucas wanted done.



Yeah I guess so. Probably some subconscious bias on my end towards preferring the old CW compared with TCW.
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Postby Andsed » Sun May 09, 2021 2:51 pm

Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:On an unrelated note has anyone else heard about the heart of the Jedi novel stuff recently?

So it was a novel which was made in 1992 but never released due to contracting issues or something along those lines. Recently, I think it was the author themselves who has made it into an unofficial paperback. And over the last month or two it has outsold all the current Disney cannon novels on Amazon. However, today Disney finally took it off. It doesn't say anything nobody already knew but I find absolutely hilarious regardless.


Unfortunately all of the sources I could find are from Star Wars themed YouTube channels.

I mean thats not really suprising tbh. I´m not a lawyer but like selling a Star Wars book without Disneys permission seems like a pretty clear copyright violation.
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Based tweet

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Remember, all 9 main line movies are good.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 10, 2021 2:33 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Based tweet

Based tweet



Remember, all 9 main line movies are good.
Well thats subjective, i personally find AOTC, TPM and TROS to be crap for the most part but I subscribe to the school of letting people enjoy things so its all good.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 10, 2021 2:38 am

I wonder when we might see more about The Acolyte, even casting news. Thats one of the ones im most interested in.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon May 10, 2021 2:40 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Based tweet

Based tweet



Remember, all 9 main line movies are good.

Times like these I always like to re-watch Mikey Neumann's retrospective on the reception of eps 1-7 on release.

TL;DW:
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Postby Alvecia » Mon May 10, 2021 2:43 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I wonder when we might see more about The Acolyte, even casting news. Thats one of the ones im most interested in.

Dude same. I'm super interested in getting the High Republic comic series as well, but I'm waiting for the full volume releases rather than buying issue by issue.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 10, 2021 2:43 am

Alvecia wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Based tweet

Based tweet



Remember, all 9 main line movies are good.

Times like these I always like to re-watch Mikey Neumann's retrospective on the reception of eps 1-7 on release.

TL;DW:
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lmao accurate for like 90% of star wars fans.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 10, 2021 2:44 am

Alvecia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I wonder when we might see more about The Acolyte, even casting news. Thats one of the ones im most interested in.

Dude same. I'm super interested in getting the High Republic comic series as well, but I'm waiting for the full volume releases rather than buying issue by issue.

Ive thought about getting one of the High Republic books but ive not got around to it. Not a huge priority though so i can wait and if i want to ill just read lore stuff online.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon May 10, 2021 2:48 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Dude same. I'm super interested in getting the High Republic comic series as well, but I'm waiting for the full volume releases rather than buying issue by issue.

Ive thought about getting one of the High Republic books but ive not got around to it. Not a huge priority though so i can wait and if i want to ill just read lore stuff online.

I like to tell myself I'd read one of the new novels if I bought it, but in truth it'd probably just end up gathering dust on my shelf because I'd tell myself "I'll read it when I have the time" but never make the time for it.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon May 10, 2021 2:49 am

Alvecia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ive thought about getting one of the High Republic books but ive not got around to it. Not a huge priority though so i can wait and if i want to ill just read lore stuff online.

I like to tell myself I'd read one of the new novels if I bought it, but in truth it'd probably just end up gathering dust on my shelf because I'd tell myself "I'll read it when I have the time" but never make the time for it.

Yeah thats me and 40k novels lol

If i properly put the time into it i probably could have read the whole Horus Heresy series but ah well.
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Postby Fedel » Mon May 10, 2021 8:38 am

Earthbound Immortal Squad wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:

They admit in the first paragraph that it's not actually a retcon.



Plus I wouldn't trust screenrant as far as I could throw them. They are on par with IGN a lot of the time when it comes down to poor information and blatant bias. They are more interesting in sparking outrage than anything else because that gets views. But as seen it clearly works.


That's true at least. Most media today is blatant sensationalism simply trying to stir up people's emotions.
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